posted March 27, 2008 02:01 PM            

Example, maybe in 1930, a skeptic would have deducted that it is impossible for man to travel outside the Earth based off his era's already proven knowledge base and data pool. Of course we know. Ow the skeptic in that example was eventually proven wrong.

The same can be applied to their negative view of astrology. They can't prove it with their tests so to them its bogus.

I don't kno about you, but I act very much like my chart suggest I would, not 100% like it but damn close. I will also say that in hindsight, I have always acted like my chart to an extent. My Saturn return was VISCIOUS with a Capitol V. I will also add that I didnt take an interest in astrology until about March 2007. Before then, I only knew I was a Gemini and that Geminii were supposed to be two faced. I also notice that the people I know act their chart too. But I digress. Let the skeptics tell it and we look like a bunch of gullible, wishful thinkers.

My thing is we don't know all there is to know about the effects of "planetary" energy has on us. In my eyes, we can neither 100% prove (though I feel astrology is pinpoint accurate a lot), nor 100% disprove the legitamacy of astrology. I believe the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

End of rant. Sorry, I had to post this after watching some of those youtube videos on skeptics and astrology. Check some out. Just go to youtube and search "astrology skeptics" and a bunch will come up.

How do you guys feel about these skeptics?

posted March 27, 2008 02:10 PM              

I've encountered many people like this, and at least given 90% of them pause on the issue. They are still skeptical, but at least they have encountered the phenomenon for themselves and are intrigued enough to investigate it further.

posted March 27, 2008 02:12 PM            

I agree. What irks me most is how people are happy to believe in religion when there's no scientific proof of that either. At least astrology offers explanations. And doesn't contradict istelf. Or start wars.

posted March 27, 2008 02:14 PM            

I can't prove why I act like a gem sun / libra moon, but I can tell you that I act JUST like the descriptions say I would for the most part. And I have been acting like a gem sun / libra moon looooong before I ever knew what the descriptions of said were. Heck, I never knew anything about the other planets effects until march 2007. When I did learn about them, I found out why I am the way I am to an extent.

No skeptic in the world could disprove that.

posted March 27, 2008 02:20 PM            

Did you watch that one where the guy gives out the chart reading of the mass murderer to people?
Why do you think they all thought it applied to them? Do you think he fixed it so it was a very general reading or do you think most people are just a bit dumb and can't recognise the real them if they were to read it on paper?

I just find it hard to believe.... I'd recognise me, but then I'm not that stupid.

posted March 27, 2008 02:50 PM              

and the guy i was just seeing says he used to believe and study astrology for years and no longer believes in it, but i get the impression he doesn't know very much. i didn't ask him any questions cuz he is so adament against it.

so in my head i'm always second guessing and debating these kind of people in my mind..

but my experience in studying for the last 9 years (not a lot, but, enough to feel i've got it well enough to "believe") is that it *is* all about energy. so 10 different astrologers are gonna interpret the energies 10 different ways.. and then it gets even more complicated because of the layers of possibilities of how the energies manifest as the planets, transits, etc, relate to one another.

but yeah, i've noticed, birth charts are almost always fully accurate and the basic energetic components of the signs tend to manifest quite clearly in most people.

here is another video i just started called "skeptic to believer": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhgGzF1yyac&feature=related

posted March 27, 2008 03:00 PM              

I was a bit taken back at first, although I must say - there was at least an astro-sceptic who knew what he was sceptic about...

I´ve said it on another thread - i´m tired of defending myself when it comes to astrology, it´s a waste of time if the other person doesn´t have a clue about the subject anyway.

And when it comes to all these debunk-astrology vids on You-tube...

Why is it that astronomers are so much against astrology? Ok, we can´t prove everything that´s true, but neither can they!!

posted March 27, 2008 03:02 PM            

I submit their theory of Quantum Nonlocality:

"Superstring theory and other esoteric advances in physics….are revealing that our reality is embedded in a much more expansive, higher-dimensional realm of pure energy – or pure spirit….
The discovery of quantum nonlocality – the ability of particles to exert subtle influences on each other instantaneously across vast distances – is confirming the ancient mystical teaching that all things are profoundly interconnected. Quantum nonlocality might also explain extrasensory perception…. As well as the miraculous healing that results from prayer and other spiritual practices."

posted March 27, 2008 03:11 PM              

that is my kinda science. the regular stuff just seems so.. limited.

posted March 27, 2008 11:26 PM            

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posted March 27, 2008 11:50 PM              

As such theres the expectation that in the same conditon, you'll get the same results.

In order to actualy prove it they expect the same results, again, again and again.

But the fact is nothing in this world is a 100% guaranty and you can't guaranty the same results everytime.

The best doctors and surgeons can't guarantee 100%.

They may have never lost a patient, but they just can't assure the same results everytime.

Astrology is the same.

It doesn't bother me at all take it however you want it, but don't force your views on people.

If you don't belive in it don't force people not to belive.

If you do, don't force non belivers to.

Just because those f_ckers don't know what a great tool there mising out on.

It looks like all of those videos have less to do about astrology.