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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted March 28, 2008 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


Her (Aspect) Him

Sun conjunct moon (1')
Sun sextile Mars (2')
Sun Sextile Mercury (3')
Sun conjunct Juno (exact)
Sun opposite Jupiter (7')
Moon square Sun (4')
Moon square Venus (2')
Moon square Uranus (1')
Moon trine Neptune (1')
Moon sextile Pluto (exact)
Moon conjunct Jupiter (9')
Ascendant Square Ascendant (1')
Ascendant opposite Pluto (2')
Mercury square Sun (2')
Mercury Square Venus (exact)
Mercury square Uranus (1')
Mercury sextile Neptune (1')
Mercury Trine Pluto (2')
Mercury opposite Jupiter (7')
Venus Sextile Sun (1')
Venus sextile Venus (3')
Venus sextile Uranus (4')
Venus square Pluto (7')
Mars square Sun (4')
Mars square Venus (2')
Mars square Uranus (1')
Mars sextile Neptune (1')
Mars trine Pluto (exact)
Jupiter sextile Jupiter (2')
Saturn sextile Jupiter (1')
TNode conjunct Jupiter (2')
TNode square Sun (3')
TNode Square Venus (5')
TNode Square Uranus (6')
Chiron opposite Sun (exact)

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blue moon
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posted March 28, 2008 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First impression is that she must have a churning effect, aggressive ~ I'm trying to think of the right word.

Some people I like to sit next to because they make me feel calm. I am thinking maybe she is one of those people who would have the opposite effect. If I was the "him" in the equation, that is.

It's just a first impression, and I was looking at the aspects as the chart I find a little hard to read. Three Squares from Mars, three from Mercury, three from the Moon, etc.

Hopefully someone will have time to take a proper look for you.

Is that your Mars CNJ Mercury, CNJ her Uranus?

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posted March 28, 2008 10:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First impression is CHALLENGE ... a rough ride ... never lukewarm.

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mblover
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posted March 29, 2008 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a very hot sexual encounter and excellent one night stand. The Scropio will find it easy to communicate with Aqua because of Sun Conjuct Moon. So, quick eye to eye connection and HOT Sex within a few dates is expected.

Overall, these are two amazingly indepdent and somewhat stubborn personalities. The long term relationship will be Impossible. Strong Arguments are seen against each other because both have a need to rationalize or get fired up on their own beleifs.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted March 29, 2008 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting comments. Thanks.

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mblover
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posted March 29, 2008 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heart Shaped.. you've thanked but not provided feedback on whether we are right or not.

Both of you are highly possessive so this is bound to be a very interesting encounter.

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posted March 29, 2008 03:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ooh ooh! Her Sun conjuct his Moon! This really is one of the best aspects to have in a relationship. I had it with my ex, his moon exactly conjunct my Sun, we were inseperable for quite some time and I still love him dearly.

Best of luck to you two.

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posted March 29, 2008 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a hell of a lot aspect there! Seems to me this person is out to teach the node person something. And yes, a lot chem...

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posted March 30, 2008 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks intense... watch out for the Venus in 12th though, that could pose as a problem down the line. In my personal experience with it(with three past attractions), one will act foolishly and eventually suffer while the other one looks away...basically unrequited feelings. But then again everyone reacts unique to certain synastry.

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

"I seem to have the blind self-acceptance of the eccentric who can't conceive that his eccentricities are not clearly understood"

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posted March 30, 2008 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's blurry and I'm drunk.....teh combination=uber blurry so I'll have to get back to it.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted March 31, 2008 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's very little I can confirm at this point, except to say that the attraction is definitely there on my side, -- definitely.

And there's quickly-mounting evidence to suggest that the feeling is somewhat mutual.

Clearly, the aspects appear to bear this out, too (mars square venus, mars trine pluto, mars in the 8th house, etc.).

I find this person very exciting. I rarely use that word, but, since meeting this person, this is one of the only adjectives that continually comes to mind. Everything about her "excites me" and is "exciting"; exciting this, exciting that, lol. She is very dramatic and expressive, which I love. Other than that, there is a peculiar flow of communication; we are both very open, almost naive, in our approach to others, and we are both "excited" to find someone who we can share this kind of innocence and honesty with.

Still, there are some serious adjustments that need to be made between our energies. Her mars and mars-ruled ascendant make tight squares to my stellium and ascendant, respectively; so, I tend to be a little bombarded by her high energies at times, -- but, all in all, I think we may be able to get past that and, with all the other encouraging aspects (Sun/Moon, Sun in partner's 7th, Moon in partner's 7th, numerous sextiles and trines from the inner to the outer planets, Jupiter conjunct TNode, etc.), the difficulties may prove interesting and challenging and... exciting.

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posted March 31, 2008 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is also a strong urge to protect this person on my part, and I feel that healing energies are prominent (chiron op Sun EXACT, and my Saturn completes a Grand trine between her Venus and Chiron). Actually, there are two Grand Trines formed by our synastry, which is supposed to be a big deal. My Chart-Ruler (Saturn) trines her Venus by less than one degree, and her Chiron by less than 2 degrees. My Neptune trines her Ascendant by 3 and her Moon by 1, completing the second Grand Trine. There is definitely a lot going on here, and it will take time to see how all these dynamics fall into place once the dust settles.

I think charts need to be read intuitively, because there is so much going on, and every chart is so unique. For instance, her Mars squares my Sun, and we know what the generic interpretation of this would be. But I think it has to make a difference that her mars is in Aquarius and my Sun is conjunct Uranus. Sun/Uranus is very different from the usual Sun in Scorpio, and makes me very Aquarian. So, the adjustment to that Mars may be mitigated, no? Also, the entire sign of Aquarius is in my 1st house, and this too makes me identify with, rather than reject, the energies of Mars in Aquarius. So far, our beliefs dont seem to clash much, mblover, but we'll see.

Thank you all for commenting.


hsc


BR, yeah, i dont know why it came out all blurry.
Oh well... Cheers!

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posted March 31, 2008 10:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oooh baby!

exciting is exciting!

i'm excited too in my new crush-ish thing i've got goin' on. more excited, even, than i've ever been about anyone. little goop, much thrill.

enjoy!

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posted March 31, 2008 11:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well i just wanted to add something about this moon and sun conjunction. I have moon exactly on my MC and in gemini conjunct North Node and if anyones sun moon mercury or anything conjuncts it I NEVER get along with them. It doesnt matter who they are. I only get along if it is in trine aspect and thats only as friendship not in an emotional connection either. I dont think everyone automatically gets along when theres the sun moon conjunction. And all my other planets make trine aspects to my moon so its not like its square any other planets when theyre conjunct my moon. if yo uget what im trying to saY..

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Sun: Cancer
Moon: Gemini
Mars: Cancer
Mercury: Cancer
Venus: Leo

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted March 31, 2008 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hear you belgz, and I doubt anyone here is enough of an amateur to argue that any aspect, even the much tauted Sun-Moon conjunction, may be interpreted as an automatic golden ticket. Antagonistic people are hard to get along with no matter what the aspects may be, and especially if they are too close for comfort, as conjunctions sometimes are. Thanks for sharing your perspective.

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posted April 01, 2008 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agreed Belgz. Anyone who conj my sun will get a cold shoulder from me (kind of opposite to your situation). I have sun squ ura and in particular sun opp uranus. But saying that, conjunctions (and in your case with your moon) are both negative and positive and maybe you just get the negative end

HSC - keep us posted.

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posted April 01, 2008 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks, 23

I might get tight-lipped about this pretty soon.

Its going that well.



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posted April 01, 2008 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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"And there's quickly-mounting evidence to suggest that the feeling is somewhat mutual."

LOL at your choice of words... luckily l read on and realised you were the guy and she's the girl

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posted April 01, 2008 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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You share an exact progressed Venus (Stephen) progressed Mars trine in 2008. This is one of the most physically attracting aspects according to progressed synastry theory.
It cost Paul McCartney 50 million dollars, though...it's that potent.

Seriously, here is a list of couples who shared this aspect when they got together:
Frank Sinatra and Mia Farrow
Kirk Douglas and Diana Dill
Sonny and Cher
Yves Montand and Marilyn Monroe
John Malkovich and Glenne Headly
Mickey Rooney and Martha Vickers
Richard Briers and Ann Davies
Deborah Kerr and Peter Viertel
Steve Martin and Victoria Tennent
Sarah-Jessica Parker and Robert Downey Jnr
Richard Cromwell and Angela Lansbury
George Scott and Trish VanDevere
Courtney Love and Kurt Cobain
Courteney Cox and David Arquette
Joan Fontaine and Brian Aherne
Dean Goodman and Maria Riva
John McEnroe and Tatum O'Neal
Helena Christensen and Norman Reedus
Jared Leto and Cameron Diaz
Gary Oldman and Uma Thurman
Paul McCartney and Heather Mills
Betty Grable and George Raft
Audrey Hepburn and Robert Wolders
Faye Dunaway and Peter Wolf
Roger Vadim and Catherine Deneuve
Joan Blondell and George Barnes
Lynne Frederick and David Frost
Amy Madigan and Ed Harris
Michael Brandon and Glynis Barber
Natasha Henstridge and Damian Chapa
Teri Hatcher and Jon Tenney
Richard Madeley and Judy Finnigan
Shannon Tweed and Gene Simmons
James Cameron and Linda Hamilton
Rudolph Valentino and Pola Negri
Daniel Gelin and Daniele and Delorme
Darryl F Zanuck and Bella Darvi
Frank Sinatra and Lana Turner
George Raft and Virginia Pine
Kylie Minogue and Olivier Martinez
Paulina Poriskova and Ric Ocasek
Ty Hardin and Andra Martin
Benny Andersson and Anni Frid Lingstadt
Andreas Baader and Gudrun Enslin
Simone de Beauvoir and Jean-Paul Sartre
Nicoletta Mantovani and Luciano Pavarotti
Whoopi Goldberg and Frank Langella
Dennis O'Keefe and Steffi Duna
George Bernard Shaw and Florence Farr
Johann Von Goethe and Christiane Goethe
Bridget Fonda and DwightYoakam
Jeanne Moreau and Marcello Mastroianni
Beyonce Knowles and Jay Z

...and there are lots more.

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posted April 02, 2008 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Courtney Love and Kurt Cobain???

Run!!!!!!!!!!!

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posted April 02, 2008 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well they lasted till death parted them, unlike most on that list.

I've seen some impressive research in this area, but it was on paper. Digging on the net (O.K, I did a quick Google) I found this:

http://www.positiveastrology.com/Articles/Demo_Data_001.asp

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted April 02, 2008 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, newstar!

Its hard to believe she could even be attracted to me;
she's so pretty and has such a great figure,
and I'm more of the teddy-bear type...

But they say women are more forgiving...

And all of this is encouraging.

Thank you.

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posted April 02, 2008 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heart Shaped Cross -

After thinking for several times and several days, I have decided to post. I have an experience to share. Please do not think that the same thing will happen with you. Or, I am writing to discourage you. We are all born with our own uniqueness. I am a Male scorpio and took the liberty to be born 7 days before your birthdate. I have Uranus between five inner planets in Scorpio in the Fifth house.

Last year, I had been with an Aquarius woman for a short timeframe.

We talked on phone first and then decided to meet. When we first met, Can you believe an Aquarius woman tightly hugged and kissed me for 45 minutes in Macys ??? ;-) Let me repeat.. a highly Rational and an Intellectual Aquarius (still guarded with old ruler Saturn) woman didn't want to detach for a single moment in a public place like Macys (Of course I took her in a Corner - trying to NOT let other women see us)

It was HOT, STEAMY and just about EVERYTHING. Additionally, I couldn't believe that she started crying and told me that in her life she has met someone with whom she could share emotions. Of course, emotions went above and beyond when she found an outlet to open up to me. We would be able to talk for 10 hours straight...yes.. we will start at 8PM and it will go on until 6AM in the morning and we will realize its early morning!!!!! time to go to bed..Almost every night emotional tears came in her eyes.

During next set of dates, I coulnd't believe how Possessive she was. She would sit with me on the same side in restaurants, she will hold my hands and not let me go for a single moment. Now, for me, A highly possessive Scorpio with Cancer rising, - this was shocking and feeling of 'WE ARE SOULMATES' were coming in right away. It was amazing and amusing to me to find a woman who is more possessive than me. Things became even more magnetic.

Well.. nice fairy tale so far.. but then, the reality started kicking in.. Her being an Aquarian Soul - had to have a GROUP OF FRIENDS, Career and Modern views of Relationship life. For some reason, rationalized views of Relationship started kicking in. Then, rationalized views of Friendship started kicking in. Then, rationalized views of Career started kicking in...

Suddenly, I started realizing that the SINGLE PERSON FOCUS is not there in her. For her, it is very important to love a group of people (her family, her friends, her collegues etc). She turned completely Aquarian.

Now, for me being a Scorpio - needed the depth, needed the truth, needed the Control, and a whole lot of unnecessary Bull**** and Crap. So, I went in a Scorpionic direction of questioning views on things. We went into healthy debates. Her rationalized and detached views started popping in. My view was to have an IN DEPTH discussion on any differences we find and resolve them. And, her view was.."Your problems are yours.. Solve them yourself. I solve my problems myself or through utilizing a group of friends" And reality started kicking in. Finally, we broke up and took the separate path.

Until above point, I hadn't opened her chart, only knew she was Aquarius. After a week or two of the break up, I opened her chart and was shocked to learn that her moon was in Scorpio Conjunct my Sun, Uranus and four other inner planets. She had three Aquarian planets and probably no other planets in Water sign.

In my experience, these types of Sun Conjunct Moon aspects along with several Squares create a huge opposite attraction and a strong need to possess each other. But, life is long, reality kicks in and we become our SOUL (Sun Sign) and all other good aspects start conflicting.

That is the reason why I wrote Long Term Relationship is impossible because before Scorpios commit for long run - Soul comes on surface and questions the DEPTH of the relationship. Of course, there is also a saying "Nothing is impossible." - most probably invented by Aquarians :-)

Keep us posted with outcomes. At minimum, I know it will be an Amazing experience and you will have NO regrets.

mblover

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