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Topic: Configurations and synastry
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23 Knowflake Posts: 4497 From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain Registered: Aug 2006
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posted March 29, 2008 09:39 PM
Another question. We know that in an aspect for synastry, both parties will feel the aspect. What about configurations? In particular, what if they are the minor contributor to a configuration? Eg providing one arm to a grand cross or grand trine. We know the major party will feel some sense of completion but what about the minor party? Do they feel this completion as well? Also what if they don't contribute nothing to a configuration already present in your chart? For example, I have a mystic rectangle and my partner's sun and venus is conj with one planet in the MR. Would my partner feel this mystic rectangle? What about also sexual aspects in platonic synastry? For example, how would very sexual aspects involving venus, mars, uranus, pluto etc be interpreted in a friendship or non-sexual relationship? IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 3991 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted March 30, 2008 05:18 AM
I think, even though to a degree both partners will feel the effect of the configuration, the one, whose "gap" is being closed, may feel a greater attraction towards the other one, because he seems to "complete" him or her.If your partner connects to an already complete configuration in your chart, you both will probably feel the impact. Maybe your partner "wakes" this special configuration inside of you "up". But if it is an already closed configuration, the partner might not be seen as so strongly "completing" like in the case of incomplete aspect configurations. I also wondered about the sexual aspects in platonic relationships or connections. I have the example of a gay man, and my synastry with him has a very strong focus on so called "sexual" aspects. My Venus conjunct his Venus and Eros. My Pluto conjunct his Mars. My Venus square his Mars. My Pluto square his Venus and Eros. I don`t have an answer to your question though. No idea, why something like that can happen, astrologically. DD
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 3274 From: London Registered: Mar 2006
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posted March 30, 2008 09:15 AM
hmmm not sure how platonic friends would work with a sexually based GT for instance.My boyfriend has a fire GT of chiron trine moon trine sun/mars. In our synastry my moon/venus/saturn/n node in Aries is conjunct his chiron, making all my personal planets part of his GT. No idea what it means but we are pretty emotional, passionate and firey together I could never just be friends with him - too much sexual energy IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 3991 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted March 30, 2008 09:35 AM
Lara,I do have that with someone. A Grand trine of his Venus, his Pluto and my Venus. This GT becomes the basis of a Kite, involving his Chiron, AND a mystical Triangle, because my Mars/AC aspects his Venus and Pluto, too, which is in Magi terms actually a "Sexual Dragon". The problem? He is gay. LOL It`s such a waste of astrological configurations, isn`t it? DD IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 3274 From: London Registered: Mar 2006
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posted March 30, 2008 09:52 AM
LOL yep, total waste. Does your GT turn into a mystical rectangle in davison or composite? That is what happens to mine with ths guy.Doesn't Heather Locklear have sexual dragons with all her men? I'm sure l saw that on Magi site once... IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 3991 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted March 30, 2008 10:29 AM
"yep, total waste. Does your GT turn into a mystical rectangle in davison or composite? That is what happens to mine with t"hs guy.That sounds like really strong stuff. Having a major configuration in synastry AND the relationship-chart(s). I guess it indicates that this is really a focal point in your relationship. No, in my particular comparision that doesn`t happen. But in the composite there is a Kite of Mars in Capricorn trine Karma / ERos in Taurus trine Uranus / Pluto in Virgo. And Neptune / Psyche is the backbone of that Kite, opposing Karma / Eros. There`s also an Isis-Osiris-conjunction in Scorpio (over laying our synastric Venus -Uranus-opposition). Also: A yod of Sun sextile Juno quinkunx Pluto. In the DAvison there is also a close Eros-Psyche-conjunction. And a Yod of Venus sextile Karma/Juno quinkunx Moon / Chiron along with a conjuncted trine of Mars trine Moon / Chiron. Of course that means there is also a Mystical trine of Mars, Karma/ Juno and Moon / Chiron.
I dunno, what it means, but it probably was strong enough for us to coincidentally see each other on a concert, where we both were part of the audience. I say "see", because it was not a meeting in the sense, that i actually talked to him. I was too surprised, but I think he noticed me, too, because first of all he looked directly at me, secondly, he looked back at me several times during the concert and when I saw him on stage some weeks later, he greeted me from stage. So, I guess, he really saw me. Maybe that could only happen thanks to that rather strong synastrric overlapping. Additonally, this Grand Trine / Mystical Triangle / Yod I mentioned has been triggered by several transit planets opposing / conjunction the "corners" of that configuration, including Transit Mars, Transit Venus and Transit NN. It was one of those moments when everything astrologically falls into place. DD IP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted March 30, 2008 05:02 PM
Great question. Astro.com charts seem to show up the configurations made using planets of both charts at all ends but I think both can be felt, it's all interactive energy. Maybe it the difference is one is united energy, the other is less balanced and one partner bringing something to the relationship that the other locks into, maybe reinforces, or motivates in some way. Examples of Grand Cross on charts, as an example, on one one synastry chart I have from astro.com it looks like a Grand Square - the effect of it being formed from two oppositions from two different natal charts crossing. Here's a Grand Cross where two T-Squares join together:
We can certainly feel that one!
But you can see that his Sun CNJ Saturn not only forms one arm of the Grand Cross, it sits at one end of my natal Grand Trine, the Mars end. So this is a real power point. Can he feel one more than the other? I'd have to ask him in non-astro language I can feel it alright. It's the feeling of a size 9 boot up my lazy rear end. IP: Logged |
23 Knowflake Posts: 4497 From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain Registered: Aug 2006
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posted March 31, 2008 12:03 AM
Thanks for the detailed posts. I have to go through them and have a good read.I think I've partially answered my sexual aspects in non-sexual charts questions myself. I've just looked at Rihanna's planets (don't know her birthtime). I think she's the total package so far when it comes to R&B, incredibly beautiful, hip etc. I'm a straight female and I have no sexual feelings towards her. BUT She has saturn and ura at 0 deg cap and mars at 28 deg sag. They are conj my venus (at 26 deg). Her venus is sextile my mars and her venus is conj my asc. Her jupiter also trines my venus. This is a good example of a few sexual aspects in a non-sexual synastry. I guess these aspects make her appealing to me. IP: Logged |
libraschoice7 Knowflake Posts: 2085 From: Arizona Registered: Jul 2006
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posted March 31, 2008 12:27 AM
Good topic...I've often wondered about this myself, my best friend that I haven't talked to in awhile(he's an Aries)we had all sorts of sexual aspects in our synastry, along with some Magi linkages. But nothing sexual ever came of it, we were just good friends. I felt like I could tell him anything, and I really miss talking to him. It proves just because there are 'sex' aspects with someone doesn't always mean something sexual will come of it. The energy was there but never manifested. He could have had a thing for me, though he hid it real well. Some of the aspects we shared...Sun opposition Sun Sun opposition Venus Moon square Venus Venus opposition Mars Mars square Pluto Mars square sun ------------------ Sun in Libra Moon in Cancer Jupiter in Cancer Venus in Virgo Mars in Cancer Ascendant in Cancer
"I seem to have the blind self-acceptance of the eccentric who can't conceive that his eccentricities are not clearly understood" IP: Logged |
Ranti Knowflake Posts: 91 From: Chiangmai Thailand Registered: Feb 2008
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posted March 31, 2008 08:48 AM
I don't know. It still two people configuration where either can just walk away anytime they want. Should we look at it the same way we do with natal?IP: Logged | |