posted April 02, 2008 07:13 PM         

these are the charts of a couple i know.
They met and right away started a relationship,it has a year and a couple of months now.

I got their datas and out of curiosity,started to see their connections.

When i looked into the sinastry i was completely shocked: they share a Double VERTEX -ASC CONJUNCTION!

Venus - Moon nice DW´s
Sun/Mars/MC conj NN
Vertex conj NN
vALENTINE trine ASC
Valentine trine NN
Karma - Venus trine
Kiron - Venus trine
Karma - Sun trine

These are wonderful aspects to have in sinastry and not very common to have it all in a chart isnst it?

what strickes me most is that ive never thought of them as possible Twin Souls or Soul Mates - she seems more inclined torwars a committed relationship while he told my bf that he will always love his ex-wife..what could possible point to that?

I mean,by what i know and observed, i always felt that she was more in love than him,somehow he does show sometimes a need to be stronger than her in life. There are some power struggles between them.

It´s very odd when i look at the charts and see all those amazing aspects in sinastry but at the same time it seems that the relationship is trembling as the two (for now )dont share the same goals in their love life.

What worries me most was to see their composite:

the venus/sun and mercury in the 12th seem difficult to handle but at the other side they also have some very good placements:

Jupiter in good aspects with personals
Mars and Venus conj ASC
Venus conj mars conj merc!
HOwever..kiron and Saturn are very bad aspected..
Moon and sun are very poorly aspected also..

posted April 03, 2008 05:45 AM         

let´s see what happens:

Yes there are!

His Draco Pluto skuares her Draco Venus(3º)and also her Draco Pluto(5º)

posted April 04, 2008 04:38 PM         

Can you tell me more about the aspects in draconic chart(synastry). Just the important ones to look for.

Any inputs on (one chart to another)

Draco venus trine draco venus.
D.pluto sextile d.venus
D.pluto trine d.venus

posted April 05, 2008 05:29 AM         

I still don`t know if it`s reasonable to use other aspects than conjunctions, oppositions in Draco-synastry.
I really want to, because somehow in the Draco synastry those planets pop up,w hich are trine my Draco ASC or / and Draco Valentine.

How are your experiences with those other aspects? Do you think they work?

In the case of your two friends:
Well, it seems like they pass IQ-rules, don`t they?
DW on Vertex / ASC - AWESOME, I want that, too!
and all those beautiful trines.

In the Draco I think that the conjunction of Draco VX and Draco Moon is a very strong indicator of a deep connection.
I`m not sure about Draco Pluto squaring Draco Venus, just because I guess everyone of his generation will square her Draco Venus.
Is that square aspected by personal natal or Draco planets / angles / asteroids, to make it more "unique"?

You know that I have a tendency to seek out men, even celebrities, with whom I share a Venus-Pluto-aspect, but in all these cases the Venus-Pluto-aspects are emphasized by strong aspects to personal planets, too, like Sun or Venus for example.

posted April 05, 2008 05:41 AM         

You probably will find good hints to where they are standing NOW regarding their relationship.

posted April 05, 2008 10:01 AM         

We never had more than two flings and it was always uncomfortable between us!

posted April 05, 2008 11:17 AM         

I think that you definitely need to look at more than one or two aspects.
Also, connections to Vertex often point towards meetings / encounters, that are some kind of "turning point", maybe change your life, or maybe change your attitude towards relationships or trigger sleeping creativity depending on where your Vertex is.
But often they don`t lead towards an everlasting blissful marriage.

Sometimes people come into our lives for a short time and we learn something from or even through them (without them even noticing), but after that we go our separate ways again.
At least that is how I understand Vertex-action. Important, yes, very often lifechanging, but not necessarily lasting without other aspects showing towards attraction and compatibility.

posted April 07, 2008 01:09 PM         

Strtnash,

im fine-been away from some days with my bf.so i couldnt be more happy

Well the experts in Dracos are IQ,DD or VenusDeIndia, but i can tell you what i think,but as you all say,take it with a grain of salt:

So to me it seems that the venus to venus points to maybe a personal love relationsgip between the 2 in the past,and with the trine of pluto/venus that is often a poweful aspect that binds 2 persons very powerfully and strong.
It´s better if you check all the planets and see what pops most in a tight degree(3º) in conj/opos/trines only.

For example,if you saw a pattern in the sinastry,and it appears again in the Dracos is very important not to miss out - me and my bf have that about Isis/Osiris/Sun/Moon/ASC for example in the 2 charts comparison.

If you find mars/venus/valentine/asc or karma with love planets either in natal - dracos or dracos-dracos,then it adds much more importance to the ones you´ve found now

DD,

I THINK trines also work up in Dracos and IQ also adds them into comparisons.Dont you feel them as right or natural when you found some of those in your comparisons?

Yup,ive been seeing some things that makes me wonder about teh VX/asc DOUBLE conj too..i thought it was cleary a Twin Soul aspect thinking that it´s a very rare combination.Then, i saw some of their beautiful aspects and made the conclusion.

Now,im seeing that many people had those and still,didnt seemed as a Twin neither a Soulmate Aspect

Sstill,i think they fill IQ´s rules cause her Valentine trine his ASC in 2ºorb.there´s a DW here cause his Valentine skuare her ASC also.

About the Dracos,i see that her Venus and Pluto Dracos are conjunct,and those are skuared by his Draco Pluto.
Her natal Amor conj her Venus/Pluto conjunction.

SO,in your opinion,they arent Twins just because of the VX action? But they are Soul Mates,right?What do you see on looking at the charts?

Ive been with them this weekedn and she wants to marry next year,he´s the one who seems more reluctant for some reason..im gonna check the progressed!

posted April 07, 2008 01:23 PM         

About the progressed sinastry:

Her P.Moon is conj his DSC
Her P.ASC is conj his P.VERTEX

His P.asc is trine her Moon

PROGRESSED TO PROGRESSED

posted April 10, 2008 08:54 AM         

NN/VENUS/MARS at the ASC and VX conj the DSC

And i didnt saw it before but the chart has a Kite,which is a rare geometric pattern to have,isnt it?

However...

Kiron is making turbulent angles with important planets like venus/mars/uranus and oposes asc also

So,

what are the most common aspects found in Twin Soul charts?

posted April 11, 2008 12:14 PM         

usually I am all for the "Twinsoul-guessing", but something strange has happened to me over the last days.
Somehow the thought of Twinsouls has lost its importance to me; I don`t feel like I can really tell you astrologically if they are Twinsouls or not (but you can always apply IQ rules).
It`s not that I stopped believing in Twinsouls; I still do, more so than ever, but right now what I really care about is ... love, the FEELING, I mean.
No matter if it is Twinsoul - love or soulmate-love.
After all, if yòu`re in love, does it really matter if someone tells you, this one isn`t your Twinsoul?
If you`re in love, then the other person is the ONE; even if only for this moment.

And even if they are Twinsouls, but one of them decideds to run away from that connection, then there is nothing that can keep them together - for now (he will come back, if he is her Twinsoul, because well, some people are just always magnetised back together).
And if he runs away, then the knowledge that they are TWinsouls may only hurt her to the core, because he won`t admit it, and it might keep her from moving on, living her life, being happy and learn the lessons she may have to learn.

Okay, I don`t know why I wrote that. Probably it has more to do with my own life, than theirs. LOL
But seriously, if they love each other, they shall cherish that love as if it was the one true love, even if they technically weren`t Twinsouls.

It`s like I once read somewhere: It`s better to have lost love, than to not have loved at all.

Sorry for the sentimentimental rant.

Oh btw I think they have a lot of great loving aspects, definitely soulmate-potential.

posted April 11, 2008 02:34 PM         

Thanks for that.

I know what you mean,by saying that.

Before i met Jonnhy,the year before i met a guy with whom i didnt had anything but he made me search for soulmates/twin souls stories and relating with astrology.He was a very misterious Scorp and i wanted to know why there would be an atraction.
So i searched and kept my findings in the pc.Time passed and the atraction passed too and one day i met Jonnhy.
Before i fall, i instantaneously had the drive to go and study again this kind of relationships. Why? Because i felt it was gonna be important.
After i fell deep,i realised that i didnt cared if/that Jonhy wasnt my Twin - i just jknew that Love is real for what it is and what we share.
That i didnt cared if he was or not Twin cause What we have is very special and somehow,even more if it cant be "explained".

You nailed it the way you put things

Concerning my friends,yes i wanted to tell them that they are Twins/Soulmates but i wont say anything..it´s better for them to find out by themselves through their own relationship.