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blue moon
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posted April 09, 2008 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message

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posted April 09, 2008 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry for the huge picture.

I've posted this as it's a topic close to the hearts of many Lindalanders.

The chart owner has now passed but I am sure she wouldn't mind her story being shared. Her birth time is accurate.

After being married for 7 years she had assumed she would never have children. There was no fertility treatment available in those days. Then, out of the blue, she got pregnant. This is the chart of the birth of her first child.

As you can see, her natal Moon is void of course in what Lily refers to as 'barren sign', Leo. But by progression it is now in Scorpio, Square natal Jupiter and natal Chiron in the 5th.

The transiting North Node is within seconds of conjunction to the Ascendant.

If anyone spots anything else, let me know. I might try and change the chart to get Ceres and Lilith on it, too.

N.B the NN is also within 5 seconds of my natal Moon and Lilith conjunction. Odd, as this is the chart of my grandmother. Or not odd at all, if you share my spiritual beliefs.

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posted April 09, 2008 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Blue Moon,

I recreated this chart for a London birth and wanted to know if you know for sure that her birth time was midnight. If you don't know her exact birth time, her Moon might not be void-of-course. What is the birth place and birth time. I already figured out the date.

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posted April 09, 2008 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Five to midnight.

Wrong country -> Belfast, Ireland.

Don't go calling her English! I doubt she'd like it.

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posted April 09, 2008 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Oops, my bad. Sorry, Grand Mom. I'll go fix it and take another look.

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posted April 09, 2008 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Blue Moon,

I don't see anything indicating the birth in the progressed chart. I only use progressed Moon but I use it along with Solar Arcs and the conception literally screams out in that chart.

In the Solar Arc chart it appears that SA Pluto opposes her natal Venus which rules her Ascendant and 9th house. The Ascendant is a health center. But the fire works really occur as SA Pluto is exactly quindecile her natal Uranus. Uranus rules her 5th house of children and sexuality. BINGO!

An exact quindecile aspect is extremely powerful. Even more so when Pluto is involved.

I don't have the exact birth date of the child she gave birth to, although I figured out that it is in May of 1941.

Did she have more children after this first child?

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posted April 09, 2008 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry, I have security paranoia, lol.

There was another born end of November 1948 (I think that was the year, sorry! I'll get back to you on that)

My other nan had a baby at age 48. I wish I had her time of birth, I don't, because I wonder what went on there. Astrologically speaking.

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posted April 09, 2008 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
I'm glad you started this thread since I am 41 this month and have no children. It would be nice to have one or two but it might not be possible. I haven't felt any physical yearning for them, but I do feel an ever so slight social pressure about it. I have been a late bloomer all my life but I'm now seeing that when you don't pay attention to life's cycles, time can creep up on you and then your opportunity is gone.

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posted April 09, 2008 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Both my grandmothers had children in their 40s ~ aged 40, 43, and 48. My husband's great-gran was 50 when she had his gran. I think that might have been 4 lots of shock!

I checked it out and had my sons (after having had several miscarriages) when SA Pluto was Quindecile Chiron in the 5th, also SA Lilith was Quindecile Chiron in the 5th. So there you go!

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posted April 27, 2008 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
There you go, Inner Depths.

I think my one Nan may have been 39, not 40 when she had hers ~ a spring chicken!

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posted April 27, 2008 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deuxantares     Edit/Delete Message
---- I haven't felt any physical yearning for them, but I do feel an ever so slight social pressure about it. I have been a late bloomer all my life but I'm now seeing that when you don't pay attention to life's cycles, time can creep up on you and then your opportunity is gone. - Geocosmic Valentine

i feel like this, too. i don't think i like the idea of being a 24-hour mother. i think i can only love a child fully if i don't have to do it full-time. LOL. can you point out what is it in a chart that may make a woman feel like a child will limit her freedom?

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posted April 27, 2008 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for robyn.c     Edit/Delete Message
its not the chart making you think a child would limit your freedom, children do limit your freedom! big time!

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posted April 27, 2008 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deuxantares     Edit/Delete Message
robyn, that is so funny!

you sound like you've had enough. LOL.

honestly, i like kids but i would just like to "borrow" them if possible, like for 5 hours a day or so. i will return them to the parents when i can't put up with them anymore.

if they are my kids then to whom shall i return them at the end of the day?


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posted April 27, 2008 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message
I know what you mean, completely... I'm 27 right now, and am getting the lectures from my mum and step-dad about settling down and having a family... but I just don't know if that will ever be on my docket...

My mum says that once you have a child, you change completely and the child becomes your whole world.. you never thought you could love something so much... but it scares me too much, knowing what I'm like, to even think about becoming a mother.

I am reminded of Bridget Jones, the Edge of Reason, when she talks to her gay mate Tom and asks if he would want to have a baby with her, and he says "Bridg, you would probably leave it in a shop or something..." That would be me...

I'm too independent and selfish of my free time. I don't know if I will always be this way, but for now, I don't see it happening for me any time soon... like, in the next 10 years even...


I have three big planets in Aquarius in my 11th... freedom is a major part of who I am... But with the opposing 5th house Leo moon... I don't know.... I see that as a selfish placement, even though I am a very loyal and loving person...

I guess time will tell...

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posted April 27, 2008 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deuxantares     Edit/Delete Message
My mum says that once you have a child, you change completely and the child becomes your whole world.. you never thought you could love something so much... - ghanima

yeah, that's what most mothers say. and it's the one thing that makes me curious about motherhood.

i remember a line from a movie starring natalie portman entitled "Where The Heart Is". at 17 she gets pregnant and is abandoned by her BF, and with no money she hides out in a Walmart store until she gives birth.

when she sees her baby for the first time she says that she doesn't understand how it is possible to feel so much love for someone she's just met.


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posted April 27, 2008 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message
I guess anything is possible...

But for now, I love being an auntie who can spoil her 3 nieces rotten, then give them back to my sister to deal with the crying and poopie diapers... hehe!

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posted April 27, 2008 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Both my grandmothers had children in their 40s ~ aged 40, 43, and 48. My husband's great-gran was 50 when she had his gran. I think that might have been 4 lots of shock!

my mom had me when she was 40, almost on her birthday. I think my mom is an alien. She doesn't age.

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posted April 28, 2008 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusdeindia     Edit/Delete Message

try asteroid child.

on the day i was born...
mom's MC was conjunct tr.Asteroid Child and so was dad's Dc
in progressed charts they had their individual prog. asteroid child conjunct... MY natal Ascendent

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