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Topic: baby after years of trying
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blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted April 09, 2008 05:05 AM
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blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted April 09, 2008 05:10 AM
Sorry for the huge picture. I've posted this as it's a topic close to the hearts of many Lindalanders. The chart owner has now passed but I am sure she wouldn't mind her story being shared. Her birth time is accurate. After being married for 7 years she had assumed she would never have children. There was no fertility treatment available in those days. Then, out of the blue, she got pregnant. This is the chart of the birth of her first child. As you can see, her natal Moon is void of course in what Lily refers to as 'barren sign', Leo. But by progression it is now in Scorpio, Square natal Jupiter and natal Chiron in the 5th. The transiting North Node is within seconds of conjunction to the Ascendant. If anyone spots anything else, let me know. I might try and change the chart to get Ceres and Lilith on it, too. N.B the NN is also within 5 seconds of my natal Moon and Lilith conjunction. Odd, as this is the chart of my grandmother. Or not odd at all, if you share my spiritual beliefs. IP: Logged |
Geocosmic Valentine Knowflake Posts: 994 From: New York, NY Registered: Sep 2007
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posted April 09, 2008 02:21 PM
Hi Blue Moon,I recreated this chart for a London birth and wanted to know if you know for sure that her birth time was midnight. If you don't know her exact birth time, her Moon might not be void-of-course. What is the birth place and birth time. I already figured out the date. Geocosmic Valentine ------------------ "Everybody is a star!" Sly & The Family Stone IP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted April 09, 2008 03:49 PM
Five to midnight. Wrong country -> Belfast, Ireland. Don't go calling her English! I doubt she'd like it. IP: Logged |
Geocosmic Valentine Knowflake Posts: 994 From: New York, NY Registered: Sep 2007
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posted April 09, 2008 04:17 PM
Oops, my bad. Sorry, Grand Mom. I'll go fix it and take another look.IP: Logged |
Geocosmic Valentine Knowflake Posts: 994 From: New York, NY Registered: Sep 2007
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posted April 09, 2008 04:49 PM
Hi Blue Moon,I don't see anything indicating the birth in the progressed chart. I only use progressed Moon but I use it along with Solar Arcs and the conception literally screams out in that chart. In the Solar Arc chart it appears that SA Pluto opposes her natal Venus which rules her Ascendant and 9th house. The Ascendant is a health center. But the fire works really occur as SA Pluto is exactly quindecile her natal Uranus. Uranus rules her 5th house of children and sexuality. BINGO! An exact quindecile aspect is extremely powerful. Even more so when Pluto is involved. I don't have the exact birth date of the child she gave birth to, although I figured out that it is in May of 1941. Did she have more children after this first child? Geocosmic Valentine ------------------ "Everybody is a star!" Sly & The Family Stone IP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted April 09, 2008 05:27 PM
Sorry, I have security paranoia, lol. There was another born end of November 1948 (I think that was the year, sorry! I'll get back to you on that) My other nan had a baby at age 48. I wish I had her time of birth, I don't, because I wonder what went on there. Astrologically speaking. IP: Logged |
Geocosmic Valentine Knowflake Posts: 994 From: New York, NY Registered: Sep 2007
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posted April 09, 2008 05:56 PM
I'm glad you started this thread since I am 41 this month and have no children. It would be nice to have one or two but it might not be possible. I haven't felt any physical yearning for them, but I do feel an ever so slight social pressure about it. I have been a late bloomer all my life but I'm now seeing that when you don't pay attention to life's cycles, time can creep up on you and then your opportunity is gone.Geocosmic Valentine IP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted April 09, 2008 06:13 PM
Both my grandmothers had children in their 40s ~ aged 40, 43, and 48. My husband's great-gran was 50 when she had his gran. I think that might have been 4 lots of shock! I checked it out and had my sons (after having had several miscarriages) when SA Pluto was Quindecile Chiron in the 5th, also SA Lilith was Quindecile Chiron in the 5th. So there you go! IP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted April 27, 2008 05:03 AM
There you go, Inner Depths. I think my one Nan may have been 39, not 40 when she had hers ~ a spring chicken! IP: Logged |
deuxantares Knowflake Posts: 1197 From: Meet Me in Sofia Registered: Nov 2006
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posted April 27, 2008 09:30 AM
---- I haven't felt any physical yearning for them, but I do feel an ever so slight social pressure about it. I have been a late bloomer all my life but I'm now seeing that when you don't pay attention to life's cycles, time can creep up on you and then your opportunity is gone. - Geocosmic Valentinei feel like this, too. i don't think i like the idea of being a 24-hour mother. i think i can only love a child fully if i don't have to do it full-time. LOL. can you point out what is it in a chart that may make a woman feel like a child will limit her freedom? IP: Logged |
robyn.c Knowflake Posts: 207 From: england Registered: Dec 2007
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posted April 27, 2008 11:50 AM
its not the chart making you think a child would limit your freedom, children do limit your freedom! big time! IP: Logged |
deuxantares Knowflake Posts: 1197 From: Meet Me in Sofia Registered: Nov 2006
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posted April 27, 2008 01:16 PM
robyn, that is so funny! you sound like you've had enough. LOL. honestly, i like kids but i would just like to "borrow" them if possible, like for 5 hours a day or so. i will return them to the parents when i can't put up with them anymore. if they are my kids then to whom shall i return them at the end of the day?
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ghanima81 Moderator Posts: 1785 From: MAINE! :) Registered: Aug 2003
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posted April 27, 2008 02:49 PM
I know what you mean, completely... I'm 27 right now, and am getting the lectures from my mum and step-dad about settling down and having a family... but I just don't know if that will ever be on my docket...My mum says that once you have a child, you change completely and the child becomes your whole world.. you never thought you could love something so much... but it scares me too much, knowing what I'm like, to even think about becoming a mother. I am reminded of Bridget Jones, the Edge of Reason, when she talks to her gay mate Tom and asks if he would want to have a baby with her, and he says "Bridg, you would probably leave it in a shop or something..." That would be me... I'm too independent and selfish of my free time. I don't know if I will always be this way, but for now, I don't see it happening for me any time soon... like, in the next 10 years even... I have three big planets in Aquarius in my 11th... freedom is a major part of who I am... But with the opposing 5th house Leo moon... I don't know.... I see that as a selfish placement, even though I am a very loyal and loving person...
I guess time will tell...
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deuxantares Knowflake Posts: 1197 From: Meet Me in Sofia Registered: Nov 2006
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posted April 27, 2008 03:12 PM
My mum says that once you have a child, you change completely and the child becomes your whole world.. you never thought you could love something so much... - ghanimayeah, that's what most mothers say. and it's the one thing that makes me curious about motherhood. i remember a line from a movie starring natalie portman entitled "Where The Heart Is". at 17 she gets pregnant and is abandoned by her BF, and with no money she hides out in a Walmart store until she gives birth. when she sees her baby for the first time she says that she doesn't understand how it is possible to feel so much love for someone she's just met.
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ghanima81 Moderator Posts: 1785 From: MAINE! :) Registered: Aug 2003
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posted April 27, 2008 05:46 PM
I guess anything is possible...But for now, I love being an auntie who can spoil her 3 nieces rotten, then give them back to my sister to deal with the crying and poopie diapers... hehe! IP: Logged |
Unmoved Knowflake Posts: 2160 From: Born in S.Africa Registered: Jun 2007
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posted April 27, 2008 06:00 PM
quote: Both my grandmothers had children in their 40s ~ aged 40, 43, and 48. My husband's great-gran was 50 when she had his gran. I think that might have been 4 lots of shock!
my mom had me when she was 40, almost on her birthday. I think my mom is an alien. She doesn't age. IP: Logged |
venusdeindia Knowflake Posts: 1630 From: mumbai,india Registered: Nov 2006
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posted April 28, 2008 02:15 AM
try asteroid child.on the day i was born... mom's MC was conjunct tr.Asteroid Child and so was dad's Dc in progressed charts they had their individual prog. asteroid child conjunct... MY natal Ascendent IP: Logged |