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stillatlarge
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posted April 11, 2008 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message
I really hate the insecurity and the way it manifests. It's crippling. It's so hard-coded and such a reflex that I've found it's very difficult to fight. From the fear of the obligatory response (major), fear of making the first move and being rejected, being totally oblivious and in denial that someone is interested until they just misunderstand and take off, the retreat even when something GOOD happens, the indirectness, etc. The problem is that it makes you behave in really irrational ways and the other person usually DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE that that's what's behind it. I've seen this in other cancerians I've known. It's a major problem in my opinion. I know it's really screwed up a lot of relationships before they started.

How do you overcome it?

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mblover
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posted April 12, 2008 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message
Are you a Cancer? Could you post your chart...

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Green Fairy
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posted April 12, 2008 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Green Fairy     Edit/Delete Message
I am the same way and i don't have a effing clue how to deal with my unstable moods and crazy insecurities. Why can't I be moreconfident and straightforward?

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stillatlarge
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posted April 12, 2008 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message
No, I'm not a Cancer sun, but I might as well be for practical purposes in this, I think, since I have rising, mars and venus in it. I attribute these things to the cancer placements cuz I don't see how it could be the Leo Sun or Aqua moon.
He has venus in Sag so that means he likes it simple and straight to the point right?

I can't manage that at this stage. I'm fine as long as I think I've probably imagined his interest or that I've lost him, but as soon as he starts to act like he likes me and is interested I do this stupid deer in the headlights thing.

Example:yesterday when he came to the point more than he ever has and it was actually clear that he liked me. During the whole time with him I was like a quivering exposed nerve, but I was still in the game,asking him questions and flirting, but then right as he was leaving is when it happened and I choked BIG TIME. I couldn't get rid of him fast enough. I felt like I had nowhere to hide.
I think he felt confused, rejected. He even got so flustered he forgot his keys, cigarettes, etc. And I was rushing him out like I had something to do when I just wanted to get by myself and come to terms with it.
I have NO IDEA why I do these things but it's like I'm powerless to fight it because it's irrational in the first place and it really sucks. This is my progressed chart.


This is the chart of the guy where this is triggering now w/birthtime estimated at noon, although it happens with almost everyone, not just him.


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ghanima81
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posted April 12, 2008 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message
I would agree that your cancer placements contribute to your insecurity and need to protect yourself.

I have no cancer planets in my chart, but have been told that the combination I do have (Aqua Sun, 11th, Leo moon, 5th) manifest themselves in a very cancerian way.

I behave very similarly. I have never said "i love you" first. I can't put that out there... it's like, an extreme fear of being rejected. When I am around someone I have a very strong attraction/connection to, I am in complete denial and put up a wall so they can't get in.

I personally could not meditate or do relaxation exercises to try and alleviate these issues, (my merc and mars are also in Aqua... way too hard to give my brain a rest) but maybe you could try to do that? It seems like such a cookie cutter response, but it may help you to be with yourself and concentrate on confidence.

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victoriasgirl1
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posted April 12, 2008 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for victoriasgirl1     Edit/Delete Message
As a Cancerian, I can definitely sympathize with the insecurity that your emotions can bring, however, my advice to you is to ride the wave. What I mean by that is, accept and allow that this is how you feel. This may not be to your liking, but (for me anyways) when I started accepting my feelings, instead of fighting them, my life became easier. It's also hard because of the Cancer radar which goes off like an alarm, letting you know what's up. Even when others will deny it, you'll still know what's going on. Hope that helps. Know that your feelings are there to help you, listen to them. Don't fight em.

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heart cakes
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posted April 12, 2008 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heart cakes     Edit/Delete Message
oooh.. you have NN at 0 deg cancer. i think this is a HUGE contributor here. acceptance of feelings.. is difficult for you. i can see how aqua moon could play into this aswell (and of course your cancer placements). the thing about cancer NN is that once you DO accept and follow your feelings (as well as others'), you will start to feel comfortable in them, and your life will be richer and happier. i dunno if you've heard of it, but the book about the nodes called Astrology for the Soul by Jan Spiller is a godsend.

i actually know quite a few people with cancer/4th house NNs and i definitely see them feeling more relaxed and happier when they really let themselves FEEL.. scary as it can seem at first. the thing with the nodes is, you will be supported in going WITH your NN because it is necessary to your evolution as a soul. meaning, you will find people caring about you, and generally NOT rejecting you when you let yourself experience your emotions and accept emotions in general.

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Unmoved
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posted April 12, 2008 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Heart cakes is absolutely right. A few years ago I was like a slave to my emotions and fears. I am still sensitive and emotional but now it's fun. I mean that I use my emotions constructively now (or most of the time) and I am much braver than before.

here's the link where heart cakes and many more made me see this Cancer NN thing about fear of letting go, and repressed emotions.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/017051.html

It gets better if you take the plunge and commit to surrendering. I can't say that I am 100% there, but I am so much better than before.

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stillatlarge
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posted April 12, 2008 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message
Lady Neptune:
[quote}His SN is on your saturn and your SN is on his sun (I think - I'm guessing the exact degree of the nodes and your planets). This is usually a significant thing; SN points to a karmic tie when it touches another's planet.[/quote]

Thank you. I read that thread you provided but I don't understand. I think my problem is that I feel TOO MUCH. If I ACCEPT my feeling's I'd never talk to a guy. I'm really confused. What does it mean to be 0 degrees Cancer?

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heart cakes
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posted April 13, 2008 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heart cakes     Edit/Delete Message
well, it is supposedly about feeling too much which results in trying to control feelings so as to NOT feel.. the idea is that when you stop trying to control emotions and just relax and go with the feelings, life will support this decision and you will find a new level of peace in yourself.

i'm not sure how 0 cancer would manifest specifically, but since it's an aries point, it seems to me that it would be pronounced in your life. maybe once you can balance your nodes consciously you will find some sort of career oriented (cap) application in the world with an emotional (can) resonance..?

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milyi
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posted April 13, 2008 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for milyi     Edit/Delete Message
it is said that cancer is a good sign for women because they become stronger and stronger with time,especially after one turns 30.lets hope that is true

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Diandra23
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posted April 13, 2008 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diandra23     Edit/Delete Message
Stillatlarge,

i feel with you.

my insecurity comes from my virgo sun but i know how it is to completely run away whenever someones approaches you,just because of the fear of being rejected or wanting to say "i love you" and then waiting for a simlilar saying...but you know what? by the time i started to accept that a rejection wasnt the worst thing i could feel ( the not knowing how it could have been with that person WAS THE THING)..then i finally went to it!

FEELING - let yourself feel and embrace the liberty that is allowing you to do that and dont fear waht may come

For the first time in my life that i made the 1st move,the 1st kiss,the 1st holding hands...i never stopped to feel fear or the little devil inside my head.I dont regret nothing cause indeed i let myself free and showed the WHO I AM INSIDE - Like you want to show but feel fear.

I think that the fact that you have 12th cancer house makes me wonder..might very well be a past life karma/lessons you have to learn.Like the others said,it´s a path you must follow and break with the barriers.

My bf has his NN Cancer and rising as weel - indeed he showed his insecurity on making the 1st moves,on compromise and surrender to his heart - but he had to do that. Now he´s much more happier on having showed his Love and not having run away from me

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stillatlarge
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posted April 14, 2008 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks to everyone. I have to figure out now how to make contact with him. I hate to think of him being hurt by what happened. I'm not supposed to talk to him til next week but I think I'm going to go give him his chart. I said I'd do it for him. That will give me a chance to soothe his feelings. I was going to call him last night but I chickened out.

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Dew
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posted April 14, 2008 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dew     Edit/Delete Message
Am I the only Cancerian here who doesnt have all these stereotypical Cancerian issues?
My goodness.

Let us stand together and change the tune.
Can you not see whats up? Lol
We live in a society that takes pride in those who are fastest, strongest, loudest, the most popular, but have you ever heard of a society that exalted the most loving, the most patient, the ones who will help you to carry your pain?
Nope because that isnt cool!
Being emotional and sensitive is not cool, and as a Cancerian you are a walking mirror.
People do not like to deal with their insides, they would much rather escape!
To be fair there really isnt much youcan do to change society, be if you want to be a part of it then BE a part of it.
and if it isnt you, then just do YOU.
Everything in society comes in fads.
The emotional and sensitive fall line is just around the corner.

Now I do not believe in wallowing, which is why I never moan or complain or any of these things that are see are atypical for most Cancerian on this board.

The 2 Cancerians I am lucky to have in my live are another Cancer sun, Cappie mooner and a Cancer sun, Aqua mooner and they are too fly.
They are strong, confident, fun as hell, wild and know how to love you without losing themselves.

Maybe its my Capricorn moon that speaks the loudest in me, because I find it exceedingly stupid and I just do not see the point in moaning.
So you hate your job, just find another one.
You do not get along with your friends, then move on, or take a break, or change the nature of the relationship!!
Your boyfriend and you havent had sex in 6 months. HELLOOO!!!! He is either gay or you both are not sexually attracted to each other. In either case, go get it somewhere else.
Life is far too shorty to whine.
Really!!

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PLF
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posted April 14, 2008 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PLF     Edit/Delete Message
Yeh, it's your moon in capricorn talking.

Cuz you sound a lot more like me (A double Cap) than a typical Cancer.

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Dew
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posted April 15, 2008 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dew     Edit/Delete Message
POOF!! I'm a double Cappie!

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