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whalepiscean
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posted April 12, 2008 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whalepiscean     Edit/Delete Message
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future_uncertain
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posted April 12, 2008 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
Oh! Maybe I can help you. I'm on my way out the door right now, but I'll try to check in later.

Hold tight...

(Eeek... not to the Sag... that won't do! I mean, I'll be back later!)

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posted April 12, 2008 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message
I might add some more later. But very interesting combo here - almost no Earthy Planets in this relationship!

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whalepiscean
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posted April 12, 2008 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whalepiscean     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Thanks Looking forward to your replies!

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scorpiofrancesca
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posted April 12, 2008 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpiofrancesca     Edit/Delete Message
Hey! This guy has the same date of birth as a guy I used to be very close to.

My friend was also very moody, easily put off when things went awry with his family or work etc. He would be less talkative when in a mood, but on the flip side usually upbeat and very understanding, kind. He was also very eclectic, interested in astrology etc, and also, the biggest sexaholic ive ever known. This probably does not help you in the slightest, but just thought I would share.

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whalepiscean
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posted April 12, 2008 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whalepiscean     Edit/Delete Message
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posted April 12, 2008 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpiofrancesca     Edit/Delete Message
He never had a real committed relationship until older(27). He was cancer rising. He was always on the hunt for the most wild sex he could find, and claimed his ideal S.O. would be someone who would engage in an open relationship sexually, etc, he actually considered being in porn... He was wild in that aspect. But nothing else about him would let on to this, very laid back demeanor, focused on his career, intelligent and well read. Very private. Relationshipwise, everything else came before this in his life, and it was never important to him to have a committed relationship.

I remember, for whatever reason, I liked this crazy guy for the longest time. It was a strange friendship. I remember when he was moving somewhere across the country and I was saddened, he was just like, Hey destiny calls. So saggitarious like. Lol.

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posted April 12, 2008 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
whalepiscean, you must be so confused. I've been there, and when i say that i mean that my ex-husband has the exact same birthday (different year though) as the guy you are talking about.

I know that just because they were born on the same day does means they are the same, but from what you are saying, I think they are very similar.

Welcome to the world of the ADD Sagittarian.
He did like you very much, his actions are proof of it. But unfortunately they have the attention span of a 1 yr old with the tendency to get bored VERY easily, getting distracted by the next new thing that passes their way.

They need constant stimulation. When my ex-husand was first courting me, he came on very, very strong. I had no choice but to fall for him. haha. Then when I did, I could sense a vibe that he was not quite there anymore...mentally.

They live in the moment, and not for the future. I'm sorry for what you are going through now, I know it must be very hard.
But the way I look at any relationship with a Sag, is that however long or short it will be, at least you know it will be amazing!
Sag's really know how to sweep a girl off her feet and take her to soaring heights of fun and adventure. The only downside, is that the higher you fly with them, the bigger the drop.

If you had the choice to do it all again, knowing this would be the outcome.....would you? Me..it's a yes!

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whalepiscean
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posted April 12, 2008 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
They love free spirited, independent strong women. This is how I was when I first met him and that is what he was attracted to. The longer we were together, the more insecure I would get during those times he would "check out" mentally, and run off chasing the next fad. THe more insecure i got, the clingier I got.

Never, ever, ever get clingy or needy. It makes them feel caged and pressured. Don't get all emotional and ask him a thousand questions when you feel like he's maybe staring to check out a bit. Give him lots and lots of SPACE!! Be your own woman, do you own thing, and don't NEED him. Keep yourself busy, and don't make him a priority in your life. Never be a wait by the phone type of girl. Keep evolving and learning new and interesting things. You must engage this man's mind, and stimulate him mentally.

The most important thing is to be true to yourself. If you are a "clingy" person, you shouldn't pretend to be an independent, strong person, just to get this man. Because this is a front you'll have to keep up your whole life if you want to keep him, and you won't be happy. But if you are an adventurous, fun loving, free spirited, independent woman, than it's a perfect match!

Good luck! You're in for a wild ride!!!

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posted April 12, 2008 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
He has his studies and his life there. That's all it is. It's also unrealistic to have a long distance relationship no matter what their sign. Especially so if there is an ocean in between. It is very difficult to maintain over time. Plus the costs involved for either one of you to travel to see the other. It can be done, but just be realistic.

He was being honest about missing you and how hard it was going to be for him after you left. I have a feeling that his distance then and on the phone with you is discomfort and not knowing how to connect back up. After all, you are both a distance from each other and cannot just drive over to meet for coffee.

I know it left you feeling confused (I would have been too and I'm a Sag sun/Aqua moon female), but perhaps look at this as an experience. It opened your eyes. You took a chance (good for you!) and had an adventure.

Don't give up on him. Sort through your feelings and see what happens in your next chapter of your life.


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posted April 13, 2008 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whalepiscean     Edit/Delete Message
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Lara
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posted April 13, 2008 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
yeah, i'm in a long distance relationship with a leo/sun, sag/moon, scorpio/asc guy.

I love him to death but it won't work cos we live 3,500 miles apart
So sad... i'm going to see him soon and l know it will be the last time l go over there cos of cost.

I wish secretly he'd follow me back to my home but he won't.

boohoo lol

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future_uncertain
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posted April 13, 2008 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
GemGemGem... I have to laugh... you wrote "Good Luck you're in for a wild ride." Last night I was texting a friend who has just recently become involved with a Sag man. She asked me for advice and I wrote the exact same line you did!

Whalepiscean-- this should be noted!

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whalepiscean
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posted April 13, 2008 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whalepiscean     Edit/Delete Message
hahaha!!
So what else do you advise, future_uncertain? And what did you mean when you said "Eeek. not to the Sag?

Lara: Best of luck with that!

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posted April 13, 2008 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
I had said "Hold tight" as in hang on I'll be with you soon, but realized that could be contrued as "holt tight to the Sag," which would be a really bad idea!

Okay... first off, looking at your placements it's easy to see why the two of you had such a magical time! As a Sag I can say that this is exactly the kind of experience I live for. I think Sags like any experience that removes them from the ordinary world, and, sadly, we can go all out with it, totally living in the moment without regard to the future or the person we're so busy making merry with.

It's kind of sad really, and I've found myself in the situation where circumstances are just right and there's a touch of magic in the air and you just let go and let be whatever will. Then morning comes, the moment has passed, the carnival is over and life had returned to normal and I'm left with a gorgeous memory that I will revisit for years to come.

Except that's not where the story ends. You know that person that shared such a brilliant time with me? That's a REAL person with REAL feelings and REAL expectations. Sometimes we forget that. It's not that Sag is using people (well, not in the mean-sprited kind of way) it's just that we can live within several different realities that don't necessarily intersect. Sometimes cause and effect can be lost on us and if you check out the "Saggitarius" thread in Lindaland Central (is that what FFA is called now?) you'll see that I wrote that Sag can justify anything.

What it sounds like to me is that he had a beautiful time with you. His intentions were never malicious-- he couldn't have pulled off an act like that for as long as he did (through all the anticipation, planning, etc.) He just got caught up in the moment and in his passions.

Believe me-- you have made yourself a permanent spot in his memory and that counts for more with Sag than what it might for more practical types. This translates into a kind of yearning, unrequited love. The unfortunate thing is that sometimes Sag can be more appreciative of this kind of wistful longing than they are of a real, flesh and blood relationship.

He will think of you. If you push him for answers, etc. he's going to be angry and his entire "illusion" will be shattered whereupon he will become very cynical about you. Let me be the first to say, though, that you aren't responsible for perpetuating his idealized version of the time the two of you spent together. On the other hand, if you leave him alone, there's a chance (50/50) that he will look you up again. Sag can have many loves simultaneously and they're all compeletely real to him. He'll call out of the blue to continue what you started as if nothing happened, then he'll disappear just as fast.

Only when the Sag man is ready can he commit himself to one realtionship. He'll fall in love many times before that. The only thing you can do is decide what you want out of this. Let me know and I'll see if I can tell you how to get there. But I'll be up front with you by saying that if you want a relationship with this man right now it's not likely to happen-- you'll be swimming at your own risk!

I'll be leaving for a while, but I'll try to check back in later today or tomorrow!

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future_uncertain
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posted April 13, 2008 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
Ahhh... my (Virgo-- yeah, go fig!) husband just informed me that I forgot to address an important part of your question-- his moodiness toward the end of your trip and subsequent detachment.

Most likely this happened because the impending conclusion of a wonderful time has a depressing effect on us. While some people look at the end of a vacation as time to really live it up, Sag usually spends this time under a black cloud.

I promise... this isn't the light dabbling of a careless Sag... this is a tough situation for him. He's already said he doesn't do ld relationships and he doesn't like labels. But I think he does like you and he may be trying to get over it at the moment.

We'll talk more!

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Lara
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posted April 13, 2008 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, my Sag moon b/f goes into a depression the day l leave and for up to a week after my trip to visit him

On the day l leave he gets anxiety and then crawls into his shell, neither touching nor hardly conversing with me.

I guess it's a sign of affection LMAO

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posted April 13, 2008 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
It would be fair to say that it's an indicator of affection.

Saggies are kind of weird when it comes to love. We can be the best buddies in the world, but when it comes to the emotional nuances, it's not unusual to run into some puzzling (and often contrary) behaviors.

Also, it has been my experience that not all Sags are as emotionally oblivious or lacking as we sometimes get a reputation for. If a Sag tells you they don't want to get involved, you'd better believe it. But I don't think they're as aloof as Aquas for instance or have a need for space in the "space away from you" kind of way. It's more about not dealing well with other people's expectations and needs-- which Saggie sees as boundaries and restrictions. In every case I've personally been involved in, Sag is perfectly willing to let you tag along wherever they may lead you. They just don't like limitations.

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posted April 13, 2008 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whalepiscean     Edit/Delete Message
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Lara
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posted April 13, 2008 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
yes!!! Exactly the same with me... he keeps calling me to make sure l get on plane safely.

I love him so much though but l can't see how we can be together

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posted April 13, 2008 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whalepiscean     Edit/Delete Message
how far apart are you?

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posted April 16, 2008 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whalepiscean     Edit/Delete Message
future uncertain?

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Lara
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posted April 16, 2008 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
yeah l really love mine too
we are far apart... hes in USA and i'm in UK

How about you?

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