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amowls
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posted April 13, 2008 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure if there's already a thread for this, but LET'S COMPLAIN ABOUT CURRENT PLUTO TRANSITS!

Right now (and for the next 4 years) Pluto is squaring my natal Venus AND transiting my 7th house (and is conjunct my Saturn & Uranus). >:| The transit started sometime last year, and I broke up with my boyfriend of 2 1/2 years last October. So far my "relationships" with guys since then have been marked by games, manipulation and obsession. I read that you shouldn't start a new relationship with this transit because it will have strong plutonian themes. Has anyone else experienced a transit like this? Have you started a relationship during one? How did it end?

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Belage
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posted April 13, 2008 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel ya.

For the past 9 years, I've had Pluto squaring my mars, then my sun, then my venus, and it's currently squaring my moon. All in my 7th house.

It has not been pretty. I am surprised my marriage survived Pluto's shenanigans. DH and I, we're tight.

I have been having health issues though. Some of them have been pretty scary. I guess if Pluto can't get you in one area, it will get you in another.

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Belage
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posted April 13, 2008 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I wouldn't start a new relationship if Pluto is squaring my Venus.

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Azalaksh
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posted April 13, 2008 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Today tPluto(rx) is 1:05 (and separating) degrees away from squaring my nVenus at 02Lib11. It'll be back in Capricorn in late November after its brief and final dalliance with Sag. That's when I will formulate my plans for obsession and stalking my target(s)

I just got done with tPluto square nMoon -- "challenging" is the Understatement of the Century.....

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Scorpionic Web
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posted April 13, 2008 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't let one planet's intimidating aspects persuade you out of relationships.

It is my belief that the right person may bring placements that could calm another person's difficult aspects.

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Belage
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posted April 13, 2008 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I just got done with tPluto square nMoon -- "challenging" is the Understatement of the Century....."

Azalaksh, I am there now. As a survivor, do you have any insight?

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okcomputer
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posted April 13, 2008 05:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto was opposite my sun for the longest time, continuing into my high school years. that sucked because i think it challenged my ambitions and inner growth, so i didn't feel too focused.
Then again it could've just been a typical high school phase!

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Azalaksh
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posted April 13, 2008 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Belage ~

You have my utmost sympathies
The following is something I wrote last year about the transit in another thread:

Pluto/Moon is/was one of the most hair-raising transits I have ever experienced, and is only just now waning in my own chart. I had to deal with 4th/8th house issues. This is a scary transit – sometimes it feels like you are at the end of your rope and hanging over a pond full of crocodiles. Sometimes you feel like all your emotions are trapped inside a dark leaden-shielded cave with no ingress/egress and no air to breathe. Sometimes it takes all your will power just to put one foot in front of the other and slog thru the day. Sometimes the fear takes you around the neck in a stranglehold and it’s all you can do to keep a full-blown panic attack at bay.

The two years of the transit weren't all bad -- there was joy too. But the feeling of something oppressive and massive lurking just out of sight never really went away, just receded from my perception sometimes. The reason I describe it that way is that now that I’m past it, the lightness of feeling, and the openness and seeming-freedom of my current environment is such a distinct difference from my emotional surroundings of 2006/2007. I personally felt very restricted during the transit. For a short period, tSaturn quincunxed my nMoon during that time and I had to deal with some boundaries-issues also. I was evaluating how I felt about EVERYTHING in my life, and it became easier to release my emotional attachment to values and objects in my life that no longer served me. But beyond the upheaval of my emotional landscape, most of my transit was about my dealings with my disabled mother in the nursing home and her financial assets.

What houses will be detonated and transformed in your transit?? Moon in 7th, did I read that right??

Hang in there, all will be well, and happen exactly as it's supposed to for your further spiritual growth.....

Zala

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Juno
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posted April 13, 2008 06:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great transiting pluto is squaring my moon.....I wondered what was going on.

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posted April 13, 2008 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah pluto is one scary mother. Luckly I went through t-pluto conj n-moon when I was a kid! But these transits last such a looooooooooooooooooong time!

But sorry to crash the party, the thing that I'm terrified about is when pluto hits Aqu. I have my sun in the 10th, conj merc. These are both in a t-square with ura (7th) and sat (4th). Ura is the apex planet. I'm really dreading it when it comes and I'm ****scared as to what it will do to me, my career, my family and my relationship. Petrified. I will also be going through a horrible t-square before that, where it will squ moon (7th), asc, chiron (1st) and jupiter (1st). I had chiron transiting this area the last few years and it wreaked havoc. Do I have to go through something like this *again*?. So I'll certainly listen to what is written here!

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Unmoved
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posted April 13, 2008 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, something is definitely up.

I am feeling ditsy. I am unfocused. I feel high. And my throat is sore.

Anyway, forget the throat... my mind is not in top form, and that makes me panic because I rely on my mind a lot. It's the only asset I have.

Pluto is 6 degrees away from hitting my Neptune (in the 2nd House), so it could be a build up to that? Or is it something else?

Well, if I am correct, this is also going on:

tpluto semi-sextile nUranus.
tPluto docile nMars
tPluto Septile nJupiter
tPluto tredecile nP.Fort
tPluto trisceptile nMoon and nMC (my moon conj my MC)

I don't know what this means...
I don't know even if this is to the exact degree
I don't know...

All i know is that I can't think. I don't know what I am feeling. My mind can't be serious and focussed, and all I wanna do is play and daydream.

The reason I don't smoke weed is because it makes me feel like this: dumb.

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Unmoved
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posted April 13, 2008 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
double post. Go figure!

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wild sheep
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posted April 13, 2008 07:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heads up, Unmoved, your whoooole life's about to change. Hopefully in a good way. Pluto was conjunct my Nep in H2 a few years ago and it was, ultimately, great. Passion, idealism, politcal awakening. Had it all. Despite how much I had to let go of during the transit, it was still one of the best times of my life. You've got a while yet before that kicks in, really, but when it does, I predict it will be more exciting/wonderful than dark/scary.

And 23—Pluto conj Moon when you were a kid? Holy crap! And I thought Pluto crossing my Ascendant in childhood was bad.

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Unmoved
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posted April 13, 2008 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wild sheep - That is comforting. It really is.

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wild sheep
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posted April 13, 2008 07:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, good, but—it's going to take Pluto a while to get to your Neptune, seriously. A re-post of the timeline for Pluto's trek through Capricorn:

April 2, 2008 – rx at 01Cap09
June 15, 2008 – crosses back into Sagittarius, 29Sag57
September 9, 2008 – D at 28Sag30
November 27, 2008 – crosses into Capricorn, 00Cap00
April 5, 2008 – rx at 03Cap18
September 12, 2009 – D at 00Cap40
April 7, 2010 – rx at 05Cap25
September 14, 2010 – D at 02Cap47
April 9, 2011 – rx at 07Cap30
September 17, 2011 – D at 04Cap53
April 11, 2012 – rx at 09Cap34
September 18, 2012 – D at 06Cap57
April 13, 2013 – rx at 11Cap35
September 21, 2013 – D at 08Cap59
April 15, 2014 – rx at 13Cap35
September 23, 2014, D at 11Cap00
April 17, 2015 – rx at 15Cap33
September 25, 2015 – D at 12Cap58
April 18, 2016 – rx at 17Cap29
September 27, 2016 – D at 14Cap56
April 21, 2017 – rx at 19Cap24
September 29, 2017 – D at 16Cap51
April 23, 2018 – rx at 21Cap17
September 30, 2018 – D at 18Cap45
April 25, 2019 – rx at 23Cap09
October 3, 2019 – D at 20Cap38
April 26, 2020 – rx at 25Cap00
October 5, 2020 – D at 22Cap29
April 28, 2021 – rx at 26Cap48
October 7, 2021 – D at 24Cap19
April 30, 2022 – rx at 28Cap36
October 9, 2022 – D at 26Cap07
March 24, 2023 – crosses into Aquarius, 00Aqu01
May 2, 2023 – rx at 00Aqu22
June 12, 2023 – crosses back into Capricorn, 29Cap59
October 11, 2023 – D at 27Cap54
January 21, 2024 – crosses into Aquarius, 00Aqu00
May 3, 2024 – rx at 02Aqu06
September 3, 2024 – crosses back into Capricorn, 29Cap59
October 12, 2024 – D at 29Cap39
November 20, 2024 – crosses into Aquarius, 00Aqu00

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Azalaksh
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posted April 13, 2008 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, wild sheep -- you resurrected my little Pluto map

**edit** I'd like to note that the degrees of the "Pluto Trek" above are for noon GMT/UT, ie for this one ~
June 12, 2023 – crosses back into Capricorn, 29Cap59
~ Pluto re-entered Capricorn (29:59:59) in the morning.....

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Azalaksh
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posted April 13, 2008 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unmoved ~

"Ditsy" eh.....
Uranus is opposing your *Virgo* Sun -- no wonder you feel scattered -- it's also within orb of a trine to your Moon (bang on your MC), but I don't see any major aspects to your Mercury that might account for your angst.....

Z

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Unmoved
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posted April 13, 2008 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Zala has just corrected me wild sheep. I am never experiencing tPluto conj nNeptune again.

*sigh of relief*

So, I am trying to get my mind together to figure out why I am like this. It's probably PMS -

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wild sheep
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posted April 13, 2008 07:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've actually re-posted that map twice now, Azalaksh. 'Cause it's so useful.

Good luck with Uranus, Unmoved.

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posted April 13, 2008 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

....and somehow I knew it would rx in 2024 over 0 deg Aqu. My sun is at 2 deg. Oh this is going to be hell.....

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Belage
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posted April 13, 2008 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Azalaksh .

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amowls
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posted April 13, 2008 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great so Pluto will be conjunct my Neptune from 2009 til 2015.

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Lavlee
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posted April 13, 2008 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lavlee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Scorpionic Web
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posted April 14, 2008 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amowls, would you like to meet at a coffee shop in Carytown some time?

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venusdeindia
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posted April 14, 2008 12:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aza

'Pluto/Moon is/was one of the most hair-raising transits I have ever experienced, and is only just now waning in my own chart. I had to deal with 4th/8th house issues. This is a scary transit – sometimes it feels like you are at the end of your rope and hanging over a pond full of crocodiles. Sometimes you feel like all your emotions are trapped inside a dark leaden-shielded cave with no ingress/egress and no air to breathe. Sometimes it takes all your will power just to put one foot in front of the other and slog thru the day. Sometimes the fear takes you around the neck in a stranglehold and it’s all you can do to keep a full-blown panic attack at bay"


just goin thru pluto opposing my sun AND moon.

long story short, seriously contemplated suicide, landed on LL, did work on soul, and bang, it was the best time ever.......
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/017160.html http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/012716.html


stop the pity party, let the champagne flow, as much as it hurts, its the best time to ask for once u r done being DEAD and REBORN

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