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0phelia
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posted April 15, 2008 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 0phelia     Edit/Delete Message
Hi all!

My first time posting to the boards, but I could use some advice...

I work with & have completely fallen for a lovely Cancerian man.
The downside; I'm Aries, he's a lot older, more importantly - he’s already married.

Their marriage is apparently on the rocks, but they're still together so I am really trying to keep my distance.

He's affectionate with me at work social functions (although he gets quite nervous around me in the office,) but after a few drinks there’s a bit of secret hand and hair stroking. In meetings we get very little work done as we end up saying almost nothing with words, but speaking volumes with eye contact and we occasionally exchange innocent, but fun & cheeky emails during the day. In spite of this flirtation – I don’t feel pursued – I even doubt sometimes that he has any interest… until I’m in a room with him again and I see a light in his eyes and feel the sparks…

From reading a number of posts in this forum I am beginning to understand that;
*When Cancer has chosen a mate they tend to hold onto them for life. (i.e – he’ll never leave his wife)
*Apparently Cancerians are fond of email and text message flirtations without ever following through & developing the relationship in person..?
*Cancer likes the other person to make the first move & it could take a very long time if it's left up to him (not a problem for an Aries woman, but I’m not willing to do so while he’s still attached.)

I’m so frustrated & I feel like I’m in limbo! I’m really trying to be patient (a quality it seems I’ll need if I'm to be with him), but I need to know if this is likely to go anywhere or if I have to nip it in the bud.

Is a Cancerian likely to enjoy a bit of a flirtation like this without taking it seriously??
Any Cancerians/ people with experience of Cancer men that could advise how I can find out for certain how he really feels and what he wants without scaring him off or causing too much trouble??

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writesomething
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posted April 15, 2008 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
Lets be honest here, he will never leave his wife...especially since he's a Cancer sun sign.

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Jugular
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posted April 15, 2008 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jugular     Edit/Delete Message
So now I'm curious - which other sun sign (men) would not leave his wife? Is this limited to Cancer men? Or not? That's a question for you pro's (i.e., oldtimers).

Now, Ophelia, I've always been pretty opinionated and I'm not gonna change now... so take this for what it's worth, from an opinionated Scorpio:

Stay away from this kind of flirtation ... learn from my experience. I ended up marrying that older guy (18 year difference) from the office who was so miserable with the wife (and by the way, trust me, she really was no prize, nobody from his family liked her and she was truly rather cruel to him). There is a point in time when the difference between 28 and 46 is no big deal. But project the same people ten years down the road and the woman is 38 and the man is 56. Things (depending on the individuals, of course) can change - people's health and vitality can turn on a dime, and do you really want to end up with a man who can't keep up with you and wants to just rest and relax while you're still bouncing around? I'm just saying... it's not quite my situation yet but we're definitely going down that road, and it's sad. Also, as much chemistry as you have initially in the "honeymoon period", don't forget that a generational gap can really present numerous issues in terms of approach to life, types of friends one likes to hang with, etc. That injects a different set of problems into the equation.

Be careful.

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mblover
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posted April 15, 2008 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message
Cancers never leave their marriage partner unless their mother is invovled in the picture. They do not listen to anybody else. They will do a lot of manipulations when they are not happy, but emptiness of being without - even the most abusive spouse - is an extremely painful feeling for them. These people are highly hopeful and they always continue to hope that their partner will get better one day.

This is the reason when their partner leaves, they spend minimum one year with a psychologist because - hope and past memories - never goes away from Cancers. They never quickly move onto next partner after divorce and sometimes spend five to ten years before marrying again.

Again, their moms have an upper hand in changing some outcomes.

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0phelia
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posted April 16, 2008 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 0phelia     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for your responses.
I know Cancer is probably the least likely to walk out on a spouse – but I do know a Cancerian on his second marriage- so it seems it does happen on occasion.

Thanks especially Jugular for sharing your experiences.
It's really interesting to hear from someone who chose this path...

The potential problems you are describing have all played on my mind. I know there will be some serious slowing down on his part in years to come, whereas that's a long way off in the future for me.

I'm sorry I allowed my eye to rest on him in the first place because my gut tells me he's not about to make such a big decision any time soon...miserable though he may be.

I have tried to talk myself around and shake the feeling off a few times now, but it seems that each time I do he senses it - and sends an impeccably-timed email or drops in for a chat with that look in his eye...

I think I need a new job

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winky_winky
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posted April 16, 2008 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for winky_winky     Edit/Delete Message
be careful not to get all wet aries with all that cancer water they can be quite moody and too sensitive for firey arians

unfaithfullness and an ability to break free from a wrong marriage cannot be judged by sun sign alone even though the sun is quite important in a man more so than in a womans chart. u have to look for other aspects and placements, but out of my head i would say cancers are always reluctant to go for greener pastures mainly because they get so easily hurt and their affections are so important to them... hope this helps

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blue moon
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posted April 16, 2008 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
If you are both born early into your signs you could be feeling the effect of Pluto which is waivering around the beginning of Capricorn. Aries and Cancer both being cardinals signs.

There could be some other progressions/transits at play.

Who says his marriage is on the rocks, btw, him?

Common sense would say don't mess with this because he is both married, and a co-worker. That spells trouble! But it's easy for me to say sat here on my swivelly chair. Life is often more complicated than that.

If you are brave enough, put up your chart. If Neptune or Uranus is making a strong connection to your chart it might give you guidance in the matter at hand.

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0phelia
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posted April 16, 2008 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 0phelia     Edit/Delete Message
I have had quite a few Cancerians in my life over the years (friends & family) and although adjusting to their moods is no mean feat, I know it's worth the struggle.

Blue Moon is this the info you're looking for?? (Don't be too harsh on that swively chair of yours!!)

Zodiac in degrees 0.00
Sun Aries 14.53
Moon Capricorn 13.26
Mercury Aries 25.08
Venus Taurus 20.14
Mars Aries 29.45
Jupiter Sagittarius 10.49 R
Saturn Scorpio 2.21 R
Uranus Sagittarius 8.55 R
Neptune Sagittarius 29.14 R
Pluto Libra 28.31 R
Lilith Aquarius 2.05
Asc node Gemini 28.09

Placidus Orb:0
Ascendant Pisces 27.56
II Taurus 17.57
III Gemini 11.45
IV Gemini 29.17
V Cancer 16.40
VI Leo 9.50
VII Virgo 27.56
VIII Scorpio 17.57
IX Sagittarius 11.45
Midheaven Sagittarius 29.17
XI Capricorn 16.40
XII Aquarius 9.50


Planet Aspect Planet Orb/Value
Sun Square Moon 1.27 -131
Sun Trine Jupiter 4.03 144
Sun Trine Uranus 5.58 43
Moon Trine Venus 6.48 25
Mercury Conjunction Mars 4.37 452
Mercury Opposition Saturn 7.14 -47
Mercury Trine Neptune 4.07 49
Mercury Opposition Pluto 3.24 -112
Mercury Trine Midheaven 4.09 39
Mars Opposition Saturn 2.36 -213
Mars Trine Neptune 0.31 112
Mars Opposition Pluto 1.14 -181
Mars Trine Midheaven 0.28 85
Jupiter Conjunction Uranus 1.55 388
Saturn Sextile Neptune 3.07 26
Saturn Conjunction Pluto 3.50 123
Saturn Sextile Midheaven 3.05 18
Neptune Sextile Pluto 0.43 49
Neptune Square Ascendant 1.18 -16
Neptune Conjunction Midheaven 0.02 80
Pluto Sextile Midheaven 0.45 16
1649 -700 949

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0phelia
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posted April 16, 2008 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 0phelia     Edit/Delete Message
I think the above is correct - My mother told me my birth time is 6.30am, but I have since read another post saying many European birth certificates are only filled in every quarter hour...

I'm not sure if the information she gave me was from my cert or from her memory...

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mblover
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posted April 16, 2008 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message
Looking at no water planets in your chart (except Saturn in Scorpio)... And Sun in Aries, Moon in Capricorn... If you really love this man, and now that you have already opened an Astrology book, you should not pursue him because it seems that your chart will HURT him more than his existing spouse. It's hard to also understand how you will love this man so that he can realize you are loving him deeply. Again Water is necessary to find some depth. And, putting theory based on one small observation of another Cancer is a very impulsive Aries thing.

There is a very sensitive soul behind that cheerful man. I would say leave him alone.

I apologize for a very 'Assertive' message. But you love Assertiveness.. don't you ;-)

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silverbells
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posted April 16, 2008 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverbells     Edit/Delete Message
It is my opinion that if the man leaves his wife for you (don't hold your breath on that one). He is not likely to trust you down the road because you were willing to be with a married man (him), never mind what he did.
Also, I am no expert but...and pay attention to this it is just possible that you will be the unwitting instrument in the repairing of their troubled marriage. BECAUSE he might be "needing" some emotional space from his troubled home situation and if you serve as an emotional distraction and comforter so that he feels emotionally secure that he is accepted by someone, he could have the energy and confidence to turn his attention and gain some perspective on his marriage and realize that he was being foolish because "his relationship is strong enough and filled with love enough to make it worth the effort" and you will end up being the girl that they had to transfer because "she was making that nice Mr. What's-his-name uncomfortable and right before his second honeymoon too!" - Geez. I hope that you are not offended or annoyed but...something more to think about.

Hey those are interesting and good points Jugular.

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0phelia
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posted April 16, 2008 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 0phelia     Edit/Delete Message
I really do appreciate the assertiveness and honesty... I love frankness...

I genuinely don't want to hurt this soft, gentle & lovely man, or his wife (of course he's with her for a reason) I just wonder why we're so drawn to eachother if we're not meant for eachother in some way...

Mblover- I am impulsive- there's no denying it, but is there really so little depth in my chart?

Silverbells I don't think I would be happy for this man to leave his wife for me. I don't know that I could trust a man who would cheat on his wife, never mind him trusting me for being with a married man. If something was to happen between us, I would hope that it be after he has come to some sort of decision in relation to his unstable marriage...

As it happens, there are a number of issues arising in work that are making me reconsider my job and even industry... It may be time to make a break and move away from my work with him and the company.

It's just that I have this feeling that I'm supposed to be around him & near him...

I'm not quite sure what to do with those feelings...

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silverbells
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posted April 18, 2008 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverbells     Edit/Delete Message
That's good, about your perspective.
Good Luck, Ophelia I wish you clarity and peace.

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...Loneliness makes you strong, only Love makes you free - Michael Franks

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writesomething
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posted April 18, 2008 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
things are never as great as you imagine them to be.

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