posted April 17, 2008 09:50 PM         

I think it isn't the first chart because of the saturn square uranus...????

posted April 18, 2008 04:38 AM         

I guess this is a trick question, as we are supposedly tempted to notice that the first chart has a great Venus&Mars conjunction in the 7th house and go for that... ;-)

The other chart has a lot of lovely and confusing Neptunian influnce, but the first one is not lacking in it either. If Saturn is the deciding factor, then probably the 2nd one (as there are no Saturn contacts with the personal planets in the 1st one), but then Saturn is in the 8th house in the 1st one and that is an important house, so...

posted April 18, 2008 05:15 AM         

But somehow I have a feeling it's a trick question - you are enquiring about a longterm couple hence one would look automatically at saturn. The first couple doesnt' seem to have ANY strong saturn aspects, so one would assume no glue for longevity.

posted April 18, 2008 05:20 AM         

I would definately say the 2nd is the more compatible. The sun/merc/venus trine moon (on MC) is lovely BUT I'm not sure about the venus/mars MP opposed saturn- although it may enhance the stability of the relationship.
I'm also not sure about the same triple conjunction being square to jupiter- nice aspects to jupiter usually denote longevity in a relationship.

posted April 18, 2008 05:47 AM         

As for is it a good or bad placement for Saturn to be in the 7th house, I'd say it's a STRONG placement. It's up to the couple to make the best or worst of it. But to have a planet in the 7th house in a composite is basically good... Again, this is simplifying things very much.

The first couple do have Saturn trine ASC, which actually is something to think about too...

But like I said, I can't decide. Both charts could signify a long relationship.

Tell us already ;-)

posted April 18, 2008 07:01 AM         

I'm going to go with the second one, for many of the reasons that have already been given. It also simply has more aspects. I think aspects provide more glue for longevity.

I like how the second one has the chart ruler exactly conjunct the Sun.

I'm biased to root for the 2nd one though, since it has a Sun-Merc-Venus conj like I have with my SO.

posted April 18, 2008 08:10 AM         

because they have sun conj venus in the 1st house - meaning a strong bond of love between each other

Saturn in the 7th - good for longevity in partnership

a lot of NN aspects.good ones:trines from all the personal planets.its a lot of growing together

kiron trine asc - healing aspect

neptuneaspecting softly all the personals give a lot of dreaming,expectations and good flow of energies

the doubt here is about saturn oposing asc and skuaring moon , the planet of home together in composite...hmmm

the other thing is the Jupiter aspects..althought trines the asc it skuares the personals...

Yet i do think its better than the 1st one

posted April 18, 2008 12:10 PM         

Although I'm trying to figure out though, what the placement of mars in the 12th house signifies? Passive aggressive behavior within the relationship? Clearly this is one single aspect, but still, I find planets in the 12th house to be deeply fascinating.

posted April 18, 2008 02:52 PM         

The first relationship has difficulties with the Moon Pluto square, but it also has a Chiron Pluto trine and that Venus Mars conjunction boosted by Uranus, so it should be real spicy. I would wonder if their Jupiter square Sun would place limits on the longevity of their relationship or if that would mean both would indulge their relationship no matter what.