posted April 25, 2008 06:06 AM         

My saturn is at 29 deg cancer, rx, 4th house. Aspects are listed below. Why is it more powerful than my sun when both planets are in opposition with each other, pretty much have the same aspects and are both detrimented? You'd think that maybe a 10th house sun is stronger because the 10th house is so prominent.

Considering my saturn is in such bad shape, how can I deal with such a powerful saturn? Or do you think its actually a positive to have such a powerful saturn notwithstanding its shape?

TIA

posted April 25, 2008 09:42 AM         

- Fourth house is ruled by Cancer Sign.
- Saturn is in the fourth house in Cancer Sign.
- 29 degree is most dangerous, most impulsive for controlling devil planets such as Saturn, Uranus, Pluto. It gives good results only towards the end after a long struggle - sometimes literally the entire life. Meaning, generally 29th degree planet is not easy to control or utilize to your advantage without receiving hard lessons or destructions.
- Additionally, the devil is Rx too.
- And, last but not least, it is still the traditional ruler of Aqua.

It has some of the following traits (mainly from Liz Green's Book)

Conditions of coldness, limitation, authority without love, isolation, unsympathetic childhood including possibility of parents divorced or father away from home is likely. Chances are mother is controlling and father doesn't offer love, sympathy or emotional support.

On inner expression perspective, the sense of security, the feeling of protection needed by a developing child as a base on which to build the evolving ego, is denied or frustrated, and the natural expression of feeling which seeks to find unity with family and a sense of heritage is blocked.

There is a great emotional instability with Saturn in 4th. Feeling of having been unolved, unwanted, is common. Preceptive Observer. Possibility of resentment towards men in general.

Some ways to positively utilize this Planet:

1. Seriousness towards building 4th house related security is needed.
2. Owning multiple houses, where you can switch from one to another to feel secure during the Aqua deatchment periods would help tremendously. This will also give good opportunities for the opposing Sun to create brilliant ideas and initiatives while at Secured home place.
3. Acquiring favorite material possessions based on Capricornian analysis will add more security.
4. Marriage life will tremendously help if the partner has been chosen such that Saturnine Control on domestic life is acceptable and desirable to some extent.
5. Again, The Saturn is at 29 degree, so, before making any business related decisions, you would want to analyze it practically on Paper one more time to satisfy your Saturn so that it doesn't opposite the natural Uranian influences of your SOUL (Opposing Aqua Sun and Squared Uranus).
6. Raising Children and instilling emotions and love (Playing role of mother) as part of domestic life will add another layer of security. And, give more confidence and power to your SOUL (Opposing Aqua Sun and Squared Uranus)

Considering it is an out of sign, opposition to Sun, the effect should be lesser than direct opposition to Capricorn Sun. 10th house SUN would have been promiment if it were in Capricorn for a chart config. like yours.

posted April 25, 2008 09:29 PM         

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Also, did/does your mom try to live vicariously through you?

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posted April 25, 2008 09:48 PM         

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It has some of the following traits (mainly from Liz Green's Book)

Conditions of coldness, limitation, authority without love, isolation, unsympathetic childhood including possibility of parents divorced or father away from home is likely. Chances are mother is controlling and father doesn't offer love, sympathy or emotional support.

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I love my parents dearly but in hindsight, they raised me poorly but did what they could with what they had. Parents make mistakes, its hard raising kids. I'm an only child to elderly parents from foreign cultures who struggled in the culture that we lived in. My parents both lived through WW2 as kids and suffered enormous hardships through dislocation etc. They migrated because of the war. I have never met my extended family except one cousin who never stayed in touch and I still have not met my extended family. And we were on the poorer end of where we lived. In hindsight, it was a very stark childhood.

posted April 26, 2008 03:16 PM         

Saturn is stationing. Saturn is bringing back the story from September 2007 and tying it into the emotions of the March 2008 eclipse story. Saturn is telling you to wrap up the last 29 years of your life and get ready for the next 29 years! Saturn is about to march through the sign of Virgo, the sign of the apprentice, servant, healer, body, diet, health, work, habits and place of the rituals and routines in your life. Saturn is organizing, structuring and asking you to assess where you are in regarding those areas and in your life in the house ruled by Virgo. Saturn reminds us that time is short. Life is fleeting. You have committed to something. Do you want to be committed to it? Are you ready for something new? What do you want your life to become? Call in your life. Sign up for an apprenticeship with your life! Commit to your skill, craft or purpose.

You can expect anything that is unfinished or incomplete to come knocking on your door asking you to be accountable. You can expect things to come back to earth and seek to ground themselves from any and all excesses. You can expect Saturn to push on your weaknesses, fears and anxieties. It is time to get your act cleaned up so you are ready to go on the road for the next part of your Saturn journey. You are going to be set free, in some manner, degree or form, over the next few weeks as Saturn rolls into his station degree.

You can expect to be rewarded for work well done. You can expect that major karmic cycles will end around you and in the lives of your friends and family. You can expect that new cycles will begin around and for you as well as for them. Open chapters in people’s lives will come to a close. Chapters that people thought were closed might open up again ~ for a few weeks ~ to make sure that they REALLY are finished with it! Or not.

Folks will be ready to move on. The world will be asking us to move on to our next set of lessons, learnings and competencies. If you have unfinished business with folks, work hard to wrap it up between now and May 7. If you hear of situations ending in people’s lives, encourage them to take the long view from their soul’s perspective. What did they learn from it? What do they know now that they can use in the future? What was their soul’s lesson? What do they wish they could do differently? What do they need to release to let them move forward? These kinds of questions are essential to working with the energy of the Saturn station.

While all of our chart represents our karma in this lifetime, our Saturn represents the part of our karma that we have the most to learn about and from. Saturn reflects our greatest strength and most fatal flaw. Our strength derives from our flaw. Saturn represents the part of our being where we are a bit afraid of what we have to do. Saturn represents our harder lessons in life. The Saturn station ahead CAN represent a course correction of sorts. If you are off your path, Saturn will nudge or push you back on to your path.

So stand up. Ask Saturn for his hand. Hold it. Tell Saturn you would like him to help you be brave and do what you need to do. Saturn actually is a good guy if you work for and with him and “do your Saturn”. We are all going to be having Saturn lessons over the next few weeks. Think of it as a test. Know you are going to be fine. Do your absolute best. Don’t worry. Show up. You don’t have to be perfect. You do have to muddle through it with your best effort. Put your fears in Saturn’s hands. You are about to enter a completely new chapter of your life. You are about to give birth to a new you. ASK FOR HELP IF YOU NEED IT!!! You are NOT in this alone! ASK FOR HELP! And keep asking for help as you go through it.

Saturn, in our day-to-day lives, is our authority figures. On Saturn stations, our authorities often change. And, on Saturn stations, our relationships to our authorities change. We become our own authorities. We look for outside authorities to help us (and they often do). We realize that life is process of moving from no authority to partial authority to full authority and back down the scale of authority as we age. That is what Saturn teaches us. He asks us to know we are responsible for our choices ~ good and bad, mistakes and successes. Saturn points out our role in things, where perhaps we did not ask needed questions of the boss or authorities. Now we are left holding the bag so to speak ~ so ask for help from the authorities you trust. Remember to breathe. You are going to be fine.

posted April 26, 2008 11:29 PM         

Part of our role as healers is to teach the truth and the truth is that life can become difficult, very difficult and cold. But that doesn't equal "evil". It equals reality.

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