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wheelsofcheese
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posted April 29, 2008 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheelsofcheese     Edit/Delete Message
I've heard from a couple of close friends that when they first knew me I was "a tough nut to crack", and they weren't at all sure that I liked them....sometimes they didn't know for weeks.

I find this unbelievable! I thought I was so open - and the people who said this to me I absolutely adore - always have. They know I love them now!

What aspects would make for a tough nut to crack. Has anybody else been told this?

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jane
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posted April 29, 2008 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
Many times! Are they earthy/watery types? More emotional types will find more detached airy types hard to read. Your affection for them is hard to distinguish from the warm, light way you interact with people in general.

I only have Pluto in air, but the only planets in my first house are "airy" planets--Mercury and Uranus. I've had many friends make similar comments to me. So I think a big part of it is the air influence.

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wheelsofcheese
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posted April 29, 2008 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheelsofcheese     Edit/Delete Message
Wotcha Jane!

One was a Cancer, the other was a Gemini.

In view of what you said about earthy/watery types it is true that I was more surprised by the comment from the Gemini, because I have a Gemini moon myself I always felt a real affinity with him and liked him on first sight (my partner's best friend). But he may have some heavyweight earth and water - I don't know his natal chart. Maybe I'll ask him. Ooh, Project!

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jane
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posted April 29, 2008 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
Don't forget to update. I'm curious.

I think what can also happen sometimes is that the more you like someone, the more insecure you get about whether they like you as much. So maybe the Gemini liked you lots (with your Gem Moon and general loveliness ), so he needed a more exuberant response from you to believe you liked him too.

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wheelsofcheese
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posted April 29, 2008 05:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheelsofcheese     Edit/Delete Message
Okey doke, I certainly will!

Know that film 'Monsters Inc'? He looks and acts like Sully. He's a massive mountain of a human being. There has to be earth there somewhere....

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blue moon
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posted April 29, 2008 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
It depends what they mean.

Getting friendly with someone in the chatting in the pub sense isn't necessarily the same as being close to them in a more intimate sense. I'm not meaning physical ~ getting to know what makes someone tick, knowing about their background, their hopes and fears.

A Moon aspect with Saturn or Pluto could symbolise someone who isn't going to be easily forthcoming on their inner emotions. The mistake would be assuming they don't have any.

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EighthMoon
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posted April 29, 2008 06:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Wheels!

Do you have any planets in your 12th?

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wheelsofcheese
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posted April 29, 2008 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheelsofcheese     Edit/Delete Message
I have moon (gem 10th house) trine pluto (Libra 2nd) so perhaps they think I'm just being all airy and superficial.

Hey Eighth! Not a single planet in the 12th. House of secrets - is this the way you were thinking?

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Dew
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posted April 29, 2008 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dew     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Wheelsofcheese,

Those two signs, Gemini and Cancer, are synonymous with provocation
What I mean is they typically know what buttons to press in order to get certain reactions.
Whilst I am not saying they mean it negatively, they might just be wanting a certain reaction from you.
Maybe the Cancerian needs more from you emotionally, and the Gemini needs more to grasp onto intellectually.
As you said above you feel you ARE open, so their words may not be about you at all.

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posted April 29, 2008 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Wheels!

How goes it?

Yep...twas what I was thinking. I know that a 12th house person is often thought of as being hard to understand or pin down by others, although they don't always see it that way.

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amowls
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posted April 29, 2008 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message
I would think Saturn in the first house or Capricorn rising might make someone seem "cold." Also Venus square Ascendant (I have Venus square Ascendant and people have said that I am hard to approach because I seem "mean").

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wheelsofcheese
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posted April 30, 2008 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheelsofcheese     Edit/Delete Message
Dew - thank you! I think that makes a lot of sense. I do try to be objective about people's opinions of me but I found this hard to accept. I think the Cancerian especially needs a lot of emotional input from his friends (he's said it very recently actually -he's having a crisis and he feels people are not giving him enough support). A lot to ponder on.

Life's good thanks Eighth!

Having said all the above and lumping the responsibility on to other's shoulders, I do have Venus square ascendent amowls....
And astro.com says the following:
"Be sincere, and show people who you really are and how you feel"

My asc is Virgo. Having had a think about Virgo qualities and how they relate to me...it would be an honest statement to say that I don't trust people with my feelings until I know them better. Maybe it's a gender thing (not so much with the Cancerian who is gay, so no weird sexual vibes there) but thinking back maybe there was an element of reserve with the Gemini.... and it certainly bothered me more that the Gemini thought I didn't like him. I just don't know boys very well. All girls' schools, no brothers, no Dad at home after age 13....

I have been burned, especially at college! One man in particular I thought I was good friends (friends for 2 years) with went on to make a pass at me and then spread rumours about me being a lesbian because I wouldn't sleep with him. I was really shocked by that. I'd never given him any indication of more and I am by no means one of those women who string men along and want every male person to be in love with them.

I guess men friends have to pass a stringent test. A test involving me working out if I feel safe with them and they feel safe with me, and my SO feeling safe that we (me and the Gem)can stay up talking all hours after he's gone to bed. Maybe it's because bloke's a Leo - I know I have an instinct to not, under any circumstances, flirt or put myself in a situation where I could be flirted with. Should have known that my bloke wouldn't have an idiot for a best friend but he was being tested too. In a different way

Happy to say I have some nice friends who can question me.

Alright, after a bit of reflection I can see how he might have thought this. Game's up gov, jobs a goodun, aww nuts.

*gets up off couch*

Blah bluh blah blah blah!


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bluegreyeyes
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posted April 30, 2008 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluegreyeyes     Edit/Delete Message
I have a friend (a Capricorn) who is the same way...very hard to tell how she feels about people...

And I have been told stories by a number of friends about the "first time I knew you liked me"... they thought I was indifferent to them.

I'm really friendly... but even men have no clue when I'm interested in them... I'm just not good at being "showy" with me feelings.

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*Christina*
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Gemini MOON
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