posted May 03, 2008 03:49 PM         

Help me explain something to my mum. She's a Leo with lots of fire in her chart and only Mars in Gemini. She can't stand Aquas! So, she wants to know what's good about them.. I told her that Aquas are great friends and like people but she says they're fake! What can I say to persuade her they're NOT fake?!

posted May 03, 2008 04:21 PM         

They have a breadth of vision that brings diverse factors into a whole, and can see both sides of an argument without shilly-shallying as to which side to take. Consequently they are unprejudiced and tolerant of other points of view. This is because they can see the validity of the argument, even if they do not accept it themselves. They obey the Quaker exhortation to "Be open to truth, from whatever source it comes," and are prepared to learn from everyone.

Both types are humane, frank, serious minded, genial, refined, sometimes ethereal, and idealistic, though this last quality is tempered with a sensible practicality. They are quick, active and persevering without being self-assertive, and express themselves with reason, moderation and sometimes, a dry humor.

They are nearly always intelligent, concise, clear and logical. Many are strongly imaginative and psychically intuitive, so that the Age of Aquarius, which is about to begin, is much anticipated by psychic circles as an age in which mankind will experience a great spiritual awakening. The Aquarian philosophical and spiritual bent may be dangerous in that it can drive the subjects into an ivory-tower existence where they meditate on abstractions that bear little relevance to life. On the other hand it can help the many who have scientific leanings to combine these with the Aquarian yearning for the universal recognition of the brotherhood of man, and to embark on scientific research to fulfill their philanthropic ideals of benefiting mankind. When some cause or work of this nature inspires them, they are capable of such devotion to it that they may drive themselves to the point of exhaustion and even risk injuring their health.

posted May 03, 2008 09:05 PM         

Your Mum is a Leo, guessing Leo Sun. Leo is opposite Aquarius, with Taurus and Scorpio both square to Aquarius. While Leo is opposite, the shadow side of Aquarius, they are poles apart. Put the two together and its fireworks and/or a complementary coupling.

While all 4 signs above are fixed in modality, they are in general negative aspect with each other, so should not get on.
I love Leos, just not the overly dramatic type. I love Taureans full stop. Scorpios...80% are fine, its just the really controlling ones which are obviously not the best people to be around. Who would like that?

Personality-wise, on the down side (or even up-side) Aquarians can be know-it-alls in personality (see my 1st post and somewhat detached. For the more emotional person, this might seem fake. Just like a shout from a Leo would seem like gaining attention in some way.

Can explain her assessment of Aquarians through her chart, or maybe ask what Aquarians she has come into contact with that bring out this fake quality. Never something I come across before. Certainly a 1st.

What kind of chart does she have, if it could be explained through this way?

posted May 03, 2008 10:04 PM         

However....

I have come to know...they ARE fake...or atleast the man breed of they.

Generally, out of touch with their inner be-ing, and believe me I have had long, intense encounters with male Aquarius...more than one.

Still, I remain open to one proving me wrong...maybe some day.

posted May 04, 2008 12:13 AM         

For some reason, I've noticed that the Leo/Aqua opposition seems to have the most friction of any of the opposite signs.

I have several Aqua friends who don't like Leos, and several Leo friends (and family) who don't like Aquas! Some of them are aware of the astrological opposition, and others, I've noticed that each time they don't like someone, it's their opposite sign.

posted May 04, 2008 01:20 AM         

Leo's can be very "elitist". It takes a while for them to give you their full attention and friendship. You have to earn that familiarity. I've noticed a lot of aquas tend to be the opposite. They are really friendly with everyone right off the bat and then weed out the people who they aren't compatible with as time goes on.

posted May 04, 2008 04:26 AM         

Leo OPP Aquarius ~ tricky, I've seen this in my family. The problem is both sides think they know everything and will not back down.

Mbl's observations about intuition is one I'd agree with ~ Aquas can be more intuitive than they get given credit for.

They tend to treat people as equals.

It's an objective sign. An objective assessment can be a calming input to a flammable situation.

posted May 04, 2008 12:04 PM         

My mum, she's a Leo with lots of fire, but a relaxed one, she's not loud and although being a leo she likes attention, she doesn't want to be the centre of attention.

Sun and Venus - Leo
Moon - Sag
Mars - Gemini
Mercury - Cancer

She has busy 4th and 6th houses so she says that she feels more like Virgo than Leo and loves Cancers, gets on with them.

Aquas, if you ask her WHY she thinks they're fake, she won't even be able to explain why. They just are :))

posted May 04, 2008 12:16 PM         

Friendly and humanitarian - friendly, yeah but humanitarian.. she thinks they're fake )) the good things they do.. their mind tells them, not heart, meaning they're not sincere. That's how she looks at it!

Original and inventive - we talk about astrology very often and, well she knows that Aquarius sign is ruled by Uranus and Uranus = revolution. So, Aquas are rebels. What's good about that??? She doesn't understand.

posted May 04, 2008 12:27 PM         

My mum doesn't like Tauruses and she's married to one ) it was a mistake right (her opinion) because my dad is Taurus...... with Moon in Scorpio, oh drama, two squares now.

"Personality-wise, on the down side (or even up-side) Aquarians can be know-it-alls in personality. For the more emotional person, this might seem fake."

You've got it. she is emotional with that Cancer influence.

posted May 04, 2008 12:31 PM         

With horror on her face, she replied: "What kind of people ARE they?? Monsters!!!"

posted May 05, 2008 12:35 AM         

yeah, we are just plain weird. not very get-able. rebellious in the kind of way that if there is emotional interference, like if someone is all ****** about something and expect us to comply with their demands or see things the way they do (especially with cancerian moodiness and not coming right out and saying things, just brooding or what have you), we are prone to detaching because we NEED to see and perceive things our own way. doesn't mean we don't care, but we just don't want to get sucked into drama.

posted May 05, 2008 02:11 AM         

From experience, a "bad" aqu gives you no time, are elusive/distant, pleasant yet cold and emotionally unavailable. They control by deliberately distancing themselves from you. And yes, Aqu are generally polite and humane to all despite the cold control. I've met some who are quite glib too.

A "bad" leo is overwhelming, in your face and won't give you space, are incredibly demanding. They control by expecting complete attention and devotion. Leos can be elitist and think they are entitled to many privileges over others but can be very warm, loving, affectionate and generous provided you play subject or are junior.

posted May 05, 2008 02:26 AM         

I could see how some people don't "get" aquarians...sometimes weirdness or different viewpoints make people uncomfy or confused for reasons they can't explain. the energies just clash i guess. but lol your mom seems like a character...well of course she has a lot of fire. i love leos and aquarians equally they each seem so positive and upbeat in their own ways! maybe one day she'll befriend an awesome individual who happens to be an aquarius and see them in a more positive light. i think being able to understand where a person is coming from helps any sort of relationship, but when you have no idea, its hard...

posted May 05, 2008 08:36 AM         

Not everyone gets on with their mum or dad. No everyone's close with their parents. Aquas are least likely to be. When they have problems - they go to their friends and often leave their family out of it.

I know one Aqua girl who leaves away from her family. She says her friends are her family.

posted May 05, 2008 09:05 AM         

no, no bad experiences. People she doesn't like happen to be Aquarians :)) They irritate her, she doesn't know why. All she knows is that they're fake and show offs :))

posted May 05, 2008 09:10 AM         

I am sure must be many special and wonderful people born under this sign, but unfortunately for me I did,n met personaly a sigle one (male or female) to like at least a little bit! including my mum as well! I wish so many times to be so much different than she is!

Also I can,t say I have some big issues in the past with people born under this sign, not at all, I just don,t like them1 and if I can I keep as much as possible distance from them.

I know is my opposite sign, maybe that is way I feel uncontrolably like this. on the other side with my signs in square, scorpio and taurus I can,t say the same. Even there are some kind of tension is totally other story, I even like them and I have some nice, long term relationship / friendship with them.

posted May 05, 2008 10:48 AM         

However, Aquas do many times place their friends before their immediate family and I do consider it to be something very bad.