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strtnash
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posted May 09, 2008 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for strtnash     Edit/Delete Message
More than anything else, I am just angry at myself as I am not able to take a decision and stand by it. I decide some thing and then I do the total opposite, its sooo frustrating and I just couldn’t figure out how to escape from it.

Long story short, I met this person and hopelessly fell for her within a short period of time. We broke up as she moved to another city and I was a little disappointed with the way she did it. She just ran off from the face of the earth and refused to respond. Then we reconnected again, not in person though. And we stayed in touch which made be believe that if I give up my want then I may get a good friendship. Though deep inside I was just not able to believe it’s over and there was some thing that we both were never able to break it off completely.

I dated some one else and I kept telling myself that the old story is over and I have to accept it. And I honestly tried to accept what my fate was offering me. Now I am sitting here getting ready to move into the same city, to take up my new job. Now I don’t know what I should do? I know I want it but I am also thinking I shouldn’t it.

I don’t want to get hurt again though, but at the same time I can’t keep away either. I am just absolutely confused to death. I just can’t think in one way, I am thinking I feel for her so much and I also think that its invitation for more trouble for both of us. I go back and forth between them and it just never stops.


Just let me know what you guys think, I have posted our charts and the synastry too. I can see that it’s fated. I have my MC running through one of her T-squares, and I complete her other t-square with my moon. My grand cross with the node gets repeated in our synastry.

I would deeply appreciate your inputs.
Thanks
strtnash


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blue moon
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posted May 11, 2008 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Sounds like unfinished business.

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posted May 11, 2008 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Yes you're right about fated - NN conj moon, NN conj vertex, sun conj chiron.

Let time direct and heal you. If you're meant to be together, then it will happen. Its hard to move on but you just might have to if doesn't. The advice probably doesn't help you but unfortunately I can't think of anything better.

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strtnash
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posted May 13, 2008 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for strtnash     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks bluemoon, 23.

I was just trying to find out what I can do to rectify my own mistakes which I am prone to do when I get along with her. Sounds like I just have to let it roll.

can anyone interpret the Grand cross in the sysnastry. like, what things i need to focus on when our energy fields start to work together?

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Diandra23
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posted May 18, 2008 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diandra23     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Strnash

i will try my best but this kind of charts is difficult for me to read though..

And dont forget that im still a newbie hihihi

I see that you have deffinately a fated conection:

VX conj NN
Moon conj NN

Not only that but your AC conj her NN and Sun - this is a strong bond between two persons as makes them feel not only attracted intimately to each other as it will make her want to "be"like you - you are also drowned to each other in a fated way to grow with each other´s.

Her VX conj your DCS - so she is somehow meant to be your partner in a committed relationship

Kiron for me is a very special asteroid - in a majority of important relationships it is always highly conected.
Having to do with wounds vs. healing, in my understanding it will be poiting to important persons in ouf life.

Her kiron conj your Venus - Magi calls this the most important Linkage regarding SM - makes the 2 persons instantaneously attracted.
And also,seems that healing is intimately conected to love in your situation.To exists the healing itself,it must exist the wounds,so in a way includes some suffering in order to occur the healing though Love.

Your NN trine her DSC - so here again i see that your Path is conected to her as a committed partner - maybe that´s why you feel such a drawn to her,of wanting to move into the place where she is now..

I dont know much about grand crosses and Geometry aspects - i hope someone more anknoçedged thatn me helps you on that!

But overall i see much Love here.

Venus conj NN - it´s deffinately major here and seen as a SM potencial conection.

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Lara
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posted May 18, 2008 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Diandra

I agree about Chiron/Venus but in this instance it's actually out of ORB for an aspect to be considered.

Looking further, his chiron is actually quincunx her saturn which is a saturn clash.

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PeaceAngel
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posted May 18, 2008 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
my experience with these types of relationships is that they have that magnetism but it is for you to learn from and then move on - unfinished business that you have come together to finish - as painful as that may sound and may be. the longer they drag the more pain they create. hope you find your way. maybe you are feeling that you will never love or be loved like that again?

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strtnash
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posted May 18, 2008 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for strtnash     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Diandra, lara and peaceangel.

her chiron is at 6 degree taurus and my venus is at 2 degree taurus. so its conjunct isn't it.

The quinx from my saturn to her chiron is a few degrees off.
(my planets are in the inner wheel and hers in the outer wheel)

I think the chart i posted is confusing.

Anyways, this is one of the most challenging relationships which i have ever been into and the most rewarding one as well. I have learned so much from it.

As a Scorpio moon, I was so bent on controlling the relationships, which i succeeded in the past only to lose it sooner. I am learning to let go of that.

I will be happy if we can understand our differences and be together. even if it doesn't work out, we would definitely be a major part of each other's life. Let the one above decide what we have to learn from it.

Our charts indicate that we were destined to meet and my move happened when i least expected it. I have decided to let astrology take the back seat and help me only to correct my own fallacies, i don't want to change her for any reason, let her be what ever she wants to be. I want see how much of an ability I have to handle it.

Thanks to everyone.

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strtnash
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posted May 18, 2008 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for strtnash     Edit/Delete Message
Dia,

For some reason i think of you as my friend in this forum. So even if you are completely off in your interpretations(which you are not), I will definitely listen to you my friend.

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Lara
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posted May 18, 2008 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Hey

Well not in Magi it's not conjunct!! Magi has a STRICT 3' orb rule for Chiron/venus and l have to agree with them!

Your Saturn/Chiron Quincunx is only TWO DEGREES in difference, or am l losing it totally

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strtnash
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posted May 18, 2008 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for strtnash     Edit/Delete Message
you are right lara, its my mistake.

can you please tell me what this Saturn/ chiron clash indicate. I think we have a saturn trine venus double whammy(not sure what magi orbs are). if there is a trine then wouldnt that mitigate the effect of this chiron quinx.

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Lara
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posted May 18, 2008 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I'm afraid nothing neutralizes a Saturn/Chiron clash.

Here is some more info. You can also look on the MAGIastrology website, found online.
http://www.magiastrology.com/lesson6.html
http://www.magisociety.com/quaid.html

Definition of Saturn clash -
Saturn Clash: A Turbulent Inter-aspect (including the Quincunx) formed by Saturn to any planet, especially Chiron, Neptune, Pluto, Venus, Sun, Uranus, Moon, or Jupiter. Saturn Clashes can lead to heartbreak.

I have a saturn clash with my boyfriend but we also have 5 cinderella's in our synastry charts. The saturn clash might not happen for many years so l wouldn't worry about it right now.

This mini book is interesting too - http://www.magiastrology.com/mini-book.htm

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Diandra23
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posted May 18, 2008 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diandra23     Edit/Delete Message

Awww...thanks Strnash..i´ll listen to you whenevr you need

sth funny:

your staurn conj my ac
your sun opose my venus
your venus trine my sun

we have good placements to feel friends!!

I see that you are having good thoughts about this relationship - you can only do what your heart and mind tells you.

Astrology is just a tool,a sort of a guide ofr us to understand each other´s better,for good or bad.
Shows us patterns,ghosts,inner pains and wounds and all we have to do is try to deal better with it,by being aware of what we found.

Lara,

yes they have effectively a strick orb of 3º - but i tend to enlarge a bit more about 1 or 2 degrees as i think it´s also close aspect - might still be felt by the two persons.

for instcane,if you have a bilevel aspect,then it empowers the aspect itself - try to see the paralells and contraparalells - Geo and Helio also!

Saturn/Kiron Clash - it´s considered a bad aspect in Magy.

with much love and care,trust and work can be overriden - i remeber a couple that had it and still,their relationship endured till the end of their times:

i think June CARTER AND Jonnhy Cash had this on their chart

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