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Topic: is he coming back?
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artemisss
Knowflake Posts: 218
From: NY, NY, USA
Registered: Feb 2008
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posted May 11, 2008 02:19 AM
 
together 2 years, he cheated, i tried to get him back a week after i broke up with him, March 26...and i am still trying.... is he coming back? do the transits have soemthing to do with this? what can i do to get my virgo scorpio back i miss him so much ; (i seriously have never been so sad, or felt like i had my heart ripped out as much as i do now... me 
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yourfriendinspirit
Knowflake Posts: 2789
From: California, USA
Registered: Oct 2006
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posted May 11, 2008 02:39 AM
.Please...Take off your rose colored shades my dear friend. I realize that your heart aches but hear me out, K? Do you really want this man back?
Will you really feel the same in six months?
How about the next time round...
Yes, I feel there will be a next time. This man has a very secret side about him one that needs expression... He will not stop expressing it and will only "behave" shortly after being caught. This is a thrill factor for him, you see. He may very well Love the hell outa' you but...but... You are wayyyyyyyyy too easy to walk on and pull one over on just now. You likely will change in this pattern as you age or get "burnt" a few dozen times but... For now you are far to forgiving, far too trusting, and far too naive for him. You do deserve a relationship that is healthy and less dramatic. One that is more "dreamy" and less planned out (methodical if you will) my thoughts... If however you are like a typical Saggi girl you will simply ignore the above advice completely... in this case, here is what you need to do to get him back. Find out what went on in his world, his inner life in the last third of 2002 (replicate it) It's really as simple as that. This was a period in his life where he was able to finally connect with and use the sun and mercury in his chart. These both being in the sign of Virgo should really help you get the point across to him in a organized and practical way. Be logical and controlled while speaking with him. Suggest things such as camping, picnics, BBQs, swimming, hiking, fishing, etc. to him. These things that connect Earth and water will be very powerful for him to experience with you... Connects his emotions and feelings with his actions, if you will. He feels then completely nourished by time spent with you. You then become his world again. When you are certain he's 110% hooked again you then keep him this way by giving him "jobs" making him feel needed and therefor wanted and desired... Example: Hooking up the DVD player, chopping wood, fixing the car that makes an odd noise, etc. Do not make him feel needed emotionally but rather physically. You will need to get your emotional needs met elsewhere ei: friends, family, etc. build a team if you must but he is not that person. This simply kills the deal for him. Hope this helps sweetie... ps me = Saggi girl / Neptune conjunct my sun
(similar to you Saggi Sun / Pisces Moon)
my ex hubby that will be hooked till the end of time = Virgo sun / scorpio moon (just like your guy)
*while we've been divorced now 17 years he's still dribblin' at my feet
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Seeing Stars 7.21
Knowflake Posts: 1301
From: New York
Registered: Dec 2006
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posted May 11, 2008 02:44 AM
Im going to restrain myself and just tell you to, MOVE ON!IP: Logged |
wild sheep
Knowflake Posts: 289
From: Oregon (USA)
Registered: Dec 2007
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posted May 11, 2008 03:04 AM
The other posters said it better, but in short: HE SUCKS. RUN AWAY.------------------
"You stay young as long as you can learn, acquire new habits and suffer contradiction." (Marie von Ebner-Eschenbach) IP: Logged |
artemisss
Knowflake Posts: 218
From: NY, NY, USA
Registered: Feb 2008
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posted May 11, 2008 03:18 AM
thank you so much, its just so hard...the second i show emotion, he runs, so the past few weeks ive been trying to be ubber nice, he went to Miami, I didnt call, just said have a great time, see this, go there, etc., sent his mom flowers for mothers day, and suggested that we "do" something as friends, this week, before I leave to California, where I am from, [from NY] for 8 weeks, for work... I have realized that the more he feels that I am emotional, the less he is able to talk to me, he gets scared by it, and I dont know why.. What I do not understand is..that we were together every day for two years...and planned on being together forever... how is it possible, that at the blink of an eye, one can just walk away with out a last try or fight....? it just does not make sense... I think his ego has gotten to him...he is graduating from med school this week and is oh-so-proud to be a Dr. finally. Although I am very proud of him too, I dont know why he is so narcisstic.... its not like I am chopped liver...I am very beautiful, caring, smart, successful [last year in law school] and gave him my all...I had such a crazy intense passionate relationship with him... IP: Logged |
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Knowflake Posts: 4497
From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain
Registered: Aug 2006
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posted May 11, 2008 03:26 AM
Seriously, you should get another Dr to stand him up. If he's cheating on you, then its not worth it. Never give your power up in a relationship, and I'm sorry if I sound offensive but if you aren't tough enough to resist this guy, then I question other things about you....Edit - and it makes my case even more stronger considering he can't even wear the right size shirt and even look like a Dr. Edit x2 - or colour coordinate. IP: Logged |
artemisss
Knowflake Posts: 218
From: NY, NY, USA
Registered: Feb 2008
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posted May 11, 2008 03:41 AM
23- i just laughed for the first time today, thank you.i hope he realizes what he did... it was just so hard for me to find the right "1" and when i thought i finally found it.... it escaped... i just want to cherish it and not let it go.... i guess i am just so scared... what if i dont find someone as deep and connected to as I was with him... if it was so difficult for me to experience true love....and i have dated a llooooooooot....
my venus in cap, pluto and saturn in scoprio..can make me a bit critical and demanding... if only i had not been so demanding of him, he wouldnt have gone off the brink..
granted he did cheat, but if only he realizes what he did was wrong and grows from it...and wants me back...madly... i mean we do have a lot going on in the 8th house..lol. IP: Logged |
Seeing Stars 7.21
Knowflake Posts: 1301
From: New York
Registered: Dec 2006
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posted May 11, 2008 03:45 AM
I say expose him.. gosh whatever happened to that tv show "the blame game" they need to bring that back. and they should have some kinda of website where you can list the bad bfs and gfs.. so that all people can see.. kinda like a most wanted list except they can call it the least wanted  I should so make a website for this purpose.IP: Logged |
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Knowflake Posts: 4497
From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain
Registered: Aug 2006
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posted May 11, 2008 03:46 AM
Honey, listen to me. You have the conj between jupiter and venus which makes you a soft touch. Venus rules your 3rd so why don't you use that softness in court. Likewise, you have mercury conj neptune which makes your thinking about fuzzy and romantic maybe. Likewise, why don't you use it to glib in court. Use that energy and put it into your career. Also virgo sun v your pisces moon.FFS, you're only 24 years old. There are plenty of years to go and you'd be amazed at how many people and prospective partners you meet after you leave university. Trust me and you just might need that singleness to get you by sometimes  Seriously, if you are so soft when it comes to a guy that needs a Queer Eye makeover then really, you'll be spineless in all of your relationships and your career. You're getting dickwhipped out of fear. Man, I can't believe you let a Dr bend you over and spank you. This is embarrassing for female lawyers, you have to develop your strength *now*. For shame!
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Knowflake Posts: 4497
From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain
Registered: Aug 2006
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posted May 11, 2008 03:50 AM
Yeah bring back Springer. Seeing - there is a website, "Don't date him girl" its called. Don't know what's happening with it though....IP: Logged |
alvarella777
Knowflake Posts: 504
From: Europe
Registered: Jun 2007
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posted May 11, 2008 04:58 AM
One additional thought: He has VENUS SQUARE JUPITER - insatiable needs, a strong appetite for affection, romance, can never get enough, grass seems ALWAYS greener on the other side, very childish needs ... one of THEE classical "cheaters"-aspects for a a male person. Someone who cannot stop giving (other) girls the eye. He also has MERCURY SQUARE NEPTUNE - a typical "liar"-aspect; one who is the opposite of straightforward and one who - if not "lies" deliberatley - is easily led by his own illusions. Again, a classical "cheaters" aspect. I do not really "believe" in such short-cut interpretations, but ... I just made the experience with a guy who the same aspects ... and: He let me down when the going got a bit rough'n'tough ... he just refused to talk about our problems and work on them in a committed way. Losing interest too quickly ... grass greener elsewhere ... always looking for the easy way out. Personally, I'd be VERY careful with a guy who has Venus-square-Jup AND Mercury-square-Neptune. (He also has Venus-square-Mars ... this also make his erotic need quite demanding, he might NEVER be satisfied with the love/sex of one woman alone, always wants to "proof" himself by chasing a new woman.) Sorry about that pessimistic perspective, but I tell you: Forget him, if you want something serious you can rely on. IP: Logged |
whalepiscean
Knowflake Posts: 165
From: la la land
Registered: Sep 2003
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posted May 11, 2008 07:12 AM
I feel for you  Sometimes a long relationship can be gone in the blink of an eye, and it hurts when you thought you'd be with this person forever. But trust me on this one - you WILL get over it. And once you are out of it and see clearly, you will realize that you are much better off what without him. You're very beautiful btw  I'm sure there is someone out there who deserves you more than this loser.IP: Logged |
Jugular
Knowflake Posts: 185
From: New York, NY, USA
Registered: Jan 2008
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posted May 11, 2008 08:25 AM
Artemiss: I will say it again: I was so SICK AND FORLORN just before the bar exam when I was at St. John's doing Pieper...because a few weeks earlier, I had broken up with the law school boyfriend who I thought was the "one". In my mind, at the time, that was the END OF LIFE. I was so so so upset I gave myself a thyroid condition (I'm convinced that's what started it) which was labeled by the doctors as autoimmune in origin. That's how depressed I was, convinced there'd be nobody else who would match up. Well, let me tell you, I met my husband-to-be at my third law job two years later, and he erased, obliterated the other one for me. You are probably going to be swept off your feet by another guy and you will look back on this period and wonder what the heck you were thinking. IP: Logged |
Unmoved
Knowflake Posts: 2160
From: Born in S.Africa
Registered: Jun 2007
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posted May 11, 2008 09:20 AM
 You know... if he left, and is not coming back on his own, begging for forgiveness, then he doesn't want to come back. I got cheated on in my last relationship, I broke up with him. He is a great guy, and he is begging to the extent of stalking (on Thursday he DHL-ed flowers to me then on Friday he DHL-ed four of my favourite books, some crystals and cards)... he has done more than that. This guy is doing all he can to get back with me. had this guy done anything chick flick like to get you back? Has he showed remorse and put his dignity on the line? So... let him be. You miss him, I know but give yourself time and it will get better until you forget him. Cheating is the last straw and I once gave a person a second chance and they did it again so, for me, strike one and you're out from now on. it will feel like there is a piece missing for a while but it does, for a certainty, get better. he cheated! What does that say about his regard for you. Giving him a second chance will only make him think it is something that can be done. if you still feel like this in 10 years, then do something, but for now... Leave it. I think with transits coming up next week, you might get unexpected love, and hopefully it will be someone else who treats you better than this guy. Someone who treats you like a queen, who would never dare risk losing you, because thats what cheating is. The guy gambles on the relationship, and frankly if you care for something, you would never put it at risk. hence I don't cheat because when I get into something, it is something precious to me. And when I have had enough, I break up with you, not cheat and humiliate another person. IP: Logged |
deuxantares
Knowflake Posts: 1197
From: Meet Me in Sofia
Registered: Nov 2006
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posted May 11, 2008 09:54 AM
23 LOL IP: Logged |
Lara
Knowflake Posts: 3274
From: London
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted May 11, 2008 09:59 AM
23 - LMAO @dickwhipped.. never heard that before LOL
Artemiss - delete his phone number now! If he contacts you again, you will have it again. If not - their's your answer.
No point at all in moving from your centre for a guy whom obviously thinks little of you to disrespect you so much. Plenty more Doc's in the surgery IP: Logged |
stillatlarge
Knowflake Posts: 609
From: TX. USA
Registered: Apr 2007
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posted May 11, 2008 10:40 AM
I would never have said this astrologically like they have, but I can read faces better than most and I would have said RUN even before the chart. He will never be any good in a relationship with anybody. It's not there. Do leave him dangling and do get with another though, someone at least his equal so he can experience that feeling. MAYBE he will think twice about trifling with other people's lives in the future, but it's doubtful it will make a difference.IP: Logged |
Lara
Knowflake Posts: 3274
From: London
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted May 11, 2008 11:19 AM
I agree Stillatlarge.. his face and stance says it all really.I wish you could look at a couple of photos for me, in particular my ex husband as i'd be really interested to see what you get from him, but l don't want to put them up on a public forum IP: Logged |
mblover
Knowflake Posts: 508
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Registered: Nov 2007
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posted May 11, 2008 01:49 PM
Hmm, I am seeing this guy has most planets in. 7th house Virgo, 8th house Libra/Scorpio. Cheating was part of his discrimination and Scorpion Anger. As a 7th house Virgo, the guy is highly discriminating about any relationship.So, observations piled up and then comes the actions. The actions are projected using Scorpio Moon/Mars and Jupiter expands intensity. I believe he will come back though. Every Virgo Sun realizes his mistakes. And, some sharp self-criticism will occur inside him. For you, Great Erotic Sex (with Virgo/Scorp 7th and 8th house precision!) is missing and yes I agree that it is not easy to move on. I would recommend you take a break and observe/analyze his behaviors. Make a list of all negative traits, and think about it several times. When you are on the 'Half Human' Spiritual side of Sag Sun think about whether Great Erotic Sex is still more important or all these Cheating/Negative Traits will HURT deeply? Answer will be in your hands. I wish you the best with your new adventure. IP: Logged |
Atlenta
Knowflake Posts: 501
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posted May 11, 2008 03:43 PM
One reason why you're so attracted is because of your chart patterns - they're similar... you feel he's a kindred. I don't think he'll forget you either.IP: Logged |
Lara
Knowflake Posts: 3274
From: London
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted May 11, 2008 03:48 PM
Yes, they are similar, aren't they!IP: Logged |
Atlenta
Knowflake Posts: 501
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posted May 11, 2008 04:03 PM
Yes they are! wide bundle, is it called? with a trine.IP: Logged |
Lara
Knowflake Posts: 3274
From: London
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted May 11, 2008 04:04 PM
No idea!! He looks like he has a wide bundle right around his chest area though - either that or the shirt shrunk in the wash!IP: Logged |
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Knowflake Posts: 4497
From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain
Registered: Aug 2006
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posted May 11, 2008 04:25 PM
Lara - FYIDickwhipped - for a guy asserting control, pussywhip - for a girl asserting control. Jugular - for shame to you too! Hope you've learnt your lesson.  Its shameful for lawyers to subject themselves to such nonsense, especially since you are dealing with situations that involve a lot anger, resentment and manipulation which involves both clients and other crazy lawyers. If you can't be strong, then the clients will just laugh at you if they find out what mess you are in. PS Artemisss - he looks like the type of guy who would stick a dirty pair of pliers up your arse to treat a common cold. Enough sledging, I'm cutting too much sick now; I need to step away and *detatch* myself from this post. IP: Logged |
artemisss
Knowflake Posts: 218
From: NY, NY, USA
Registered: Feb 2008
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posted May 11, 2008 05:28 PM
Jugular- thank you so much, again. Hopefully, I will turn out to have similar luck as you.23- you are hilarous. stillatlarge- what is it about his face/stance? do his eyes appear non-genuine? you should see some of the other pix!! i see it too in some of them.. And yes, our charts are soooo similar, we have the same rising sign...and he has the squares and conflicts which I do not. I have an empty 7th house, whereas he has lucky leo in the 7th.. when we were together, it was 24/7.... always doing everything, we were so similar but so different...he was so analytical, quiet, thinking, i was always talking, expressive...he was the perfectionist who never wore clean boxers, i was the reckless sag who would spill my coffee on my clothing on a daily basis, and always doing a million things at once, never sleeping, which he loved so much, he was the calm lazy one, i was the go getter always on the move.... grr IP: Logged | |
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