posted May 12, 2008 07:57 PM         

I'm going out with this new guy I met- The thing is, someone who seems to know him told me I should 'watch out' because he is NOT one to trust (cheater). *bummerr*
I like him SO much.

I'm usually good at reading people, we are hanging together often now; but he is definetly VERY secretive and hard to grasp- it's like he's does not want to open up for real.

Anyway, I manage to make him tell me his birth time so I could take a peek in this chart. LOL - (I didn't tell him the truth- just cause, otherwise he wouldn't have given it to me, he hates astrology and such) ..

This is his chart:

I notice he has a very active 12th house and that Grand Square.....hmmmmmm doesn't look good

posted May 12, 2008 08:02 PM         

Otherwise, 12th house activity indicates he needs to a lot of processing on his own. But I know someone who has a similar chart and he also has justifiably a stringer reputation and he too is very secret and has venus-ura squ.

posted May 12, 2008 08:11 PM         

moon in 5th and venus in 7th good.

Not sure l like that neptune on AC though... and quite a few squares going on, especially saturn sq venus and venus square moon.

posted May 12, 2008 08:12 PM         

yep, that venus opp neptune..

I really don't know this guy much, we are just dating- but it's like he enjoys being mysterious- dunno really.

Doesn't like talking about his feelings.
He also changes moods quickly in a second.

And 23, you are right about him being erratic.

posted May 13, 2008 01:46 PM         

Moon at 29* Pisces ~ there have been a few threads about this degree.

Mercury Square Pluto is a good starting point for pondering over his secretive side, especially as Pluto is in the 12th house. (And Mars enters into the picture, but at 7 degrees some wouldn't count this.)

http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/mercuryplutoaspects.html

You are very incisive and aggressive with your opinions. You have a tendency towards fanaticism and often want to impose your ideas on others, sometimes in a subtle manner and sometimes more imperatively. You will find yourself attracted by the occult and other mysteries but it is recommended that you avoid those subjects because they can generate certain fixations or obsessiveness. You must learn to control your impatience and impulsiveness, to think things over before speaking, and to respect the weaknesses of others.

Alternate interpretation: Never satisfied with the face value of anything, you are always probing beneath the surface for deeper reasons and hidden motives - though you rarely reveal your own. You have a very suspicious, even paranoid, side. You mind is penetrating and deep and you have an aptitude for research, investigative reporting, or private investigation. You are keenly interested in the deeper aspects of the human psyche, with a sort of "x-ray vision" regarding the inner motivations and intentions of others. You are drawn to anything secret, hidden, or mysterious, and may pursue esoteric or occult studies. You are also a forceful and convincing speaker or writer, with the ability to influence peoples' thinking by the sheer power of your conviction.

Some Famous People with the Mercury in Hard Aspect to Pluto: Squares - Oppositions - Oprah Winfrey.

posted May 13, 2008 02:32 PM         

I was worried about what this other person told me, not to trust him. Like planting the seed of doubt. And then I started thinking well, actually,... he could be THAT kind of guy..

Oh well, I guess time will tell.

TripleCancer-
Thanks for your comments of course everything helps!- it was not my intention to generalise saying that everyone with hard aspects btw venus and neptune or with a heavy 12th house is deceptive or lies. I was trying to find some co-relation with what this other person told me and his natal aspects.

posted May 14, 2008 09:57 AM         

i have sun in 12th and venus/neptune hard aspect-that makes me very introverted but other people might think it´s being secretive or lier?

posted May 18, 2008 01:46 PM         

OMG!!- what I've found lately it's that like you (alvarella777) said, he has a "me frist" approach to things. Wow, and he's SO damn full of himself!- (sometimes I don't know if to laugh with his self-appraisal comments or hit him LOL) j/k

Normally I would NOT stand someone like him and dump it immediatlely, but it's like he put a spell on me!- haha... really, ahh I can't explain this feeling..strange super intenese attraction-

I'm going with the flow... & hope it wont turn out in an unhealthy/obsessive realtionship since we are not really suited to each other.. :S Oh well.

Our goals in life are different, the people we like to surround ourselves do not match either. In a way we are way different, and it's like each is fixed in their ways- the trial is whether to accept the other as it is or *try to change it* (something that never works).

Anyway, I'm not planning anything with him... like with my last boyfriend whom we takl about marriage and stuff. With this guy, it's something else, I cannot really explain- because I'm not also sure I understand what glue us together so strongly.