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blue moon
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posted May 19, 2008 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Taurus 18: A woman airing an old bag through a sunny window to give it air and sunshine.


Given as this is the degree of my Venus I found this quite amusing (think Alison in the Miller's Tale).


Someone mentioned them earlier so I looked them up:

http://www.sabiansymbols.com/article-detail.asp?id=1453


The Sabian Symbols Oracle is quite nice:

http://www.sabian.org/oracle.htm

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posted May 19, 2008 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
I have a Venusian Sabian, too.

A VEILED PROPHET SPEAKS, SEIZED BY THE POWER OF A GOD.


Okay....

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posted May 19, 2008 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
That's better than a saggy old bag leaning out of a window. Maybe.

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izodesmozina
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posted May 19, 2008 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for izodesmozina     Edit/Delete Message
Hey, blue moon! My Venus is right next to yours, at 18* Taurus. So my Sabian is:
A NEW CONTINENT IS RISING OUT OF THE OCEAN

I relate to my Sabians a lot, especially the ones for the angles. I am waiting for this continent to appear already, I'm not getting any younger!
Cool stuff

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posted May 19, 2008 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for izodesmozina     Edit/Delete Message
Actually, the interp for your Venus Sabian is really nice

quote:
TAURUS 17-18
A WOMAN AIRING AN OLD BAG THROUGH A SUNNY WINDOW TO GIVE IT AIR AND SUNSHINE
There is a need to clean out some old habits and routines. By keeping everything in your inner self, you can cause a clutter that is restricting. Bring these things to the outer world and see if they are still relevant in the light of day, discarding those that don't measure up.
Bringing air and light to a situation. Psychoanalysis. Past life regressions or memories.
The Caution: Expecting others to take responsibility for cleaning up and airing out. Hanging onto old, outworn things and memories. Endless chatter about things that need to be forgotten.

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posted May 19, 2008 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, this web-link gives extensive info and interpretations on the Sabian Symbols:
http://mindfire.ca/The%20Sabian%20Symbols/An%20Astrological%20Mandala%20-%20Contents.htm

Mine is in the 4th dg of Virgo and is described as such:

PHASE 154 (VIRGO 4°): BLACK AND WHITE CHILDREN PLAY TOGETHER HAPPILY.

KEYNOTE: The overcoming of socio-cultural prejudices.

Freedom from all the forms, biases and idiosyncrasies of the particular culture and class in which one has been born and educated is a sine qua non of the consciousness truly "on the Path." The ideal of universal brotherhood underlies all great spiritual teachings, for they all are like branches of the One Tree, Man, in his divine state. This does not mean there are no racial differences, but rather that these differences have a functional value in terms of the whole organism of Man — and of the planet Earth.

At this fourth stage the basic technique which applies to all truly spiritual progress is clearly stated. Every human being should be seen, approached and warmly met as a "child of God," or in less religious terms as an exemplar of Man. Such a status gives to every social and interpersonal group the character of a BROTHERHOOD.

Since my Venus is also positioned in my 9th house I seem to be predestined to marry a foreigner one day ... ;-)

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posted May 19, 2008 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
BLUE MOON, yours is decribed as such:

PHASE 48 (TAURUS 18°): A WOMAN AIRING AN OLD BAG THROUGH THE OPEN WINDOW OF HER ROOM.

KEYNOTE: The cleansing of the ego-consciousness.

In this third stage of the present sequence the first two stages should be considered background. The traditional teachings concerning man's nature are somehow reconciled with the youthful enthusiasm that sees in every problem of growth an issue between the "good" and the "bad." The symbol suggests that the real enemy is within the mind; it is the ego and its attachment to possessions. The mind is shown in the likeness of a "bag," now empty and needing to be aired in the sunlight. But the "window" must first be opened and the bag emptied. The phrase "cleansing the doors of perception" has become well known of late. But even more to be cleansed is the container of perceptual images — i.e. the ego mind. The Keyword is PURIFICATION.

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posted May 19, 2008 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Now I'm confused.

My Venus is at 18* Taurus 24'

Am I the bag or the ocean? This is going to explain why there are symbols at 30 degrees. Does it go up to that degree? That would explain it, and would make me the ocean thing ~ a space ready to be filled up.


PHASE 49 (TAURUS 19°): A NEW CONTINENT RISING OUT OF THE OCEAN.

KEYNOTE: The surge of new potentiality after the crisis.

The symbol need hardly be commented upon. When the mind has been emptied and light has been called upon to purify the consciousness freed from its attachment and contaminations, a new release of life can emerge out of the infinite Ocean of potentiality, the Virgin SPACE. What will it be used for?

Because this is a fourth stage symbol we find in it a suggestion of how to approach whatever new phase of life has been not only hoped for, but actually confirmed. The "technique" is simply to allow the infinite Potential to operate in unconstrained SPONTANEITY. This means to have reached a state in which the conscious, rational ego is no longer a controlling factor.

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posted May 19, 2008 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for izodesmozina     Edit/Delete Message
You get the ocean
It is the 19th degree - the counting starts with 1, not 0. The degree from 18:00 to 19:00 it's the 19th degree. You get the ocean.

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posted May 19, 2008 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for izodesmozina     Edit/Delete Message
My Venus is 18*47'. Heehee!

Here's the Sabian we share:

quote:
TAURUS 18-19
A NEW CONTINENT IS RISING OUT OF THE OCEAN
You can find that extra spark to create a brand new, original opportunity. But this is only the beginning. There is much work to be done developing this into something fertile and productive. A whole new field of activity is coming to light. What you have done in the past has led you to this, but these new beginnings need to be met with a fresh sense of purpose and possibility.
Enormous potentiality emerging. Sudden eruptions of talent or fields of endeavor.
The Caution: Continually seeking 'new worlds' rather than finding a place and cooperation in the existing one.

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posted May 19, 2008 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Phew.

I'm from a family of compulsive hoarders. Airing out the bag is my daily nightmare ~ I work hard to keep the household Virgo contingent happy.

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posted May 19, 2008 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for izodesmozina     Edit/Delete Message

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posted May 19, 2008 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Hey this just gets better.

I like trains, I wanted to be the train. But I thought I was the Barometer *yawn* till Izz put me straight. Then I read this amazing description off the website (now saved as a favourite) from Alvarella.


PHASE 314 (AQUARIUS 14°): A TRAIN ENTERING A TUNNEL.

KEYNOTE: The ability to short-cut the process of natural evolution by the exercise of will, mental skill and physical self-discipline.

In this symbol we see a condensation of what is implied in the three preceding ones. Man must be inspired by a vision of what is possible for him to achieve; he has to organize a schedule of necessary activities if the work is to be done in terms of successive moves, each requiring a specialized type of skill and strength (i.e. a hierarchy of functions); he has to find a propitious time for beginning the work. The end result is an acceleration of the evolutionary process, whether at the psychobiological level (that of yoga and other similar disciplines) or at the social level, i.e. the level at which, in its external aspect, civilization proceeds.

This fourth stage symbol presents a picture of what can be achieved by a combination of social and cultural, and even personal, techniques. It implies the possibility of shortening the length of time needed for progress by cutting through obstacles and delays. The Keyword is PENETRATION.

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posted May 19, 2008 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for izodesmozina     Edit/Delete Message
Ok, you're scaring me. That's my Ceres Sabian (not sure how the train combines with my nurturing ability - or lack of).
Is there something I need to know?

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posted May 19, 2008 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Scheduling goes well with nurturing. Getting organised before the train goes into the tunnel. Making sure the passenagers are sat in their seats and not leaning out of the window.

Not much to be said about the empty space of Venus Square Mars and its handy keyword.

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posted May 19, 2008 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for izodesmozina     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you! Sounds good. I think it fits your Mars much better than my Ceres. My Mars gets the "Music of the spheres".
One thing that amused me was to apply my Node axis to the Sabians. So, the South Node represents what I have been: "A fat boy mowing the lawn" and I must become "The first mocking bird of spring"! Well, that's evolution for ya!

Back to Venus, though. Since we share the Sabian for it, can you give me some impressions? To me, this Sabian relates to the fact that my Venus is unaspected - so it's there, present, but I am yet unable to get to it. I have to wait for it to emerge out of the ocean and into my consciousness to learn how to express it. I wonder if there's something I should do, because Venus is very strong in my chart (unaspected, singleton, angular and in domicile).

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posted May 21, 2008 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for xrâräx     Edit/Delete Message
I think sabian symbols are magically beautiful! It's great idea to use them while reading the birth charts.

My venusian symbol- Venus in Leo 9:
Glass blowers shape beautiful forms with their controlled breathing.

KEYNOTE: The need to involve one's most spiritual and vital energies in the creative act' if it is to produce significant and beautiful new forms.

Very interesting

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posted May 21, 2008 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for praecipua     Edit/Delete Message
tonight was the full moon,

my venus' degree: PHASE 358 (PISCES 28°): A FERTILE GARDEN UNDER THE FULL MOON REVEALS A VARIETY OF FULL-GROWN VEGETABLES.

KEYNOTE: The full satisfaction of the individual's basic needs.

This symbol would seem a duplication of the preceding one, but if it is related to the first of this five-fold series (Phase 356) it’s meaning becomes clear. What is stressed now is not the full moon itself or its light, but the moon's power to call forth the instinctive urge for growth; many things respond in many different ways. The symbol refers to a typical garden, not to a field. Such a garden contains a variety of plants, herbs and vegetables grown specifically to fill an equal variety of human needs and tastes.

In this sense the third symbol of this seventy-second sequence combines the meanings of the first two. It is a symbol of ABUNDANCE, an abundance fitted to individualized requirements and wants.

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posted May 21, 2008 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heart cakes     Edit/Delete Message
hmmm.. here's mine..

am i supposed to BE like this person, or am i LOOKING for this kind of person to love, or what?

PHASE 270 (SAGITTARIUS 30°): THE POPE, BLESSING THE FAITHFUL.

KEYNOTE: The need to pay homage to traditional values upon which the Invisible Community of the spirit is built.

The concrete integration of myriads of human individuals within a great religious institution with a long tradition reflects, as well as having produced century after century, an invisible spiritual Community. The "flag bearer" has now become the "Pope," who assumes the role of God's representative on earth. It is a role, but culture is based on embodying great Images and deeply moving symbols in physical reality. The symbol asks of the individual: "Are you willing to live a transpersonal life as a symbol?" This is the final and supreme statement of that section of the cycle of the year represented by Sagittarius.

This concludes Scene Eighteen. A collectivity of human beings is seen having "transferred" their sense of spiritual value to a man who has become an incarnation of their common ideal. Keywords: PERSONALIZED WORSHIP. It can be a blessing or in some cases, a curse.

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posted May 21, 2008 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiLover75     Edit/Delete Message
Okay... here's my sun sign/degree:

Taurus 5: A youthful widow, fresh and soul-cleansed from grief, kneals at an open grave to receive the secret of eternal life.

That's freaky.

This is my Venus sign degree:

Gemini 14: Two people , at widely different points, are in conversation with each other by means of telepathy.

Ironically this makes TONS of sense!

Okay... I'm now gonna go and do this properly for some further insight...

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posted May 21, 2008 05:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message
Cancer 29: "A greek muse weighing new born twins in golden scales"


well.. I suppose Im happy, lol its connected with the divine. but I have no idea what this means in relation to me. but at least it sounds good

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posted May 21, 2008 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diandra23     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Guys

My Venus is at 28ºLEO16´- should i read the 2´º or 29ºdegree?

think it´s this:

28-29 deg Leo

A Mermaid Emerges From The Ocean Waves Ready For Rebirth In Human Form

KEYNOTE: The stage at which an intense feeling-intuition rising from the unconscious is about to take form as a conscious thought.

The mermaid personifies a stage of awareness still partially enveloped by the ever-moving and ever-elusive ocean of the collective Unconscious, yet already half formulated by the conscious mind. Any creative thinker or artist knows well the peculiar mixture of elation and anxiety characterizing such a stage. Will the intuitive feeling fade away reabsorbed into the unconscious, or will the inexpressible realization acquire the concreteness and expressible form of a concept or a definite motif in an art form?

This fourth symbol in the thirtieth five-fold sequence suggests that the fire of desire for concrete and steady form burns at the root of all techniques of self-expression. An unconscious energy archetype is reaching toward consciousness through the creator, as cosmic Love seeks tangible manifestation through human lovers. The whole pre-human universe reaches eagerly to the human stage of clear and steady consciousness. It is this great evolutionary urge, this elan vital, which is implied in this symbol of the mermaid seeking human incarnation — the YEARNING FOR CONSCIOUS FORM AND SOLIDITY.

This fourth symbol in the thirtieth five-fold sequence suggests that the fire of desire for concrete and steady form burns at the root of all techniques of self-expression. An unconscious energy archetype is reaching toward consciousness through the creator, as cosmic Love seeks tangible manifestation through human lovers. The whole pre-human universe reaches eagerly to the human stage of clear and steady consciousness. It is this great evolutionary urge, this elan vital, which is implied in this symbol of the mermaid seeking human incarnation — the YEARNING FOR CONSCIOUS FORM AND SOLIDITY.

Sounds beautiful even if i dont completely understand what it means hihihi

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posted May 21, 2008 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hexxie     Edit/Delete Message
Hi there ~

When reading that link, keep in mind that they're listing Aries 1, Aries 2, etc. This means Aries 1 is actually 0 degrees through 1 degree, Aries 2 is actually 1 degree through 2 degrees... Aries 30 is actually 29 degrees through 30 degrees.

blue moon ~ The Sabian symbol for your Venus at 18* Taurus is actually: 'A new continent is rising out of the ocean.'

It's confusing because when we talk about how many degrees are in a 'sign' we say there are 30 degrees. Yet in reading a chart we # them 0 - 29!

Hope that helps. I was baffled for quite some time before I connected the dots hehe.

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`Who are you?' said the Caterpillar. This was not an encouraging opening for a conversation. Alice replied, rather shyly, `I--I hardly know, sir, just at present-- at least I know who I WAS when I got up this morning, but I think I must have been changed several times since then.'
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posted May 21, 2008 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Izo ~> this relates to how I feel creatively rather than romantically. A lot has been absorbed and is bubbling under ready to burst forth tranformed. Or so I like to think.

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