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alvarella777
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posted May 22, 2008 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, this is not about me, but about a close friend of mine. She is planning a wedding for the end of this year/beginning of 2009. But ... she's got some heavy transits coming up during the chosen phase - not at all good for serious bonding, in my experience. What do you think?

Due to some conjunctions in her natal chart and due to some planetary retro-motions ALL the following aspects will be active for her simultaneously, for several months, from Dec.08 till April/May'09:

- Uranus oppos. her ASC (then entering her 7th house for a long period)
- Saturn conjunct her ASC/oppos her DC
- Saturn opposite her Chiron
- Saturn opposite her Eros
- Neptune opposite her Mercury
- Neptune opposite her Sun
- Chiron opposite her Mercury
- Chiron opposite her Sun
- Uranus conjunct her Chiron
- Uranus her Eros
BUT: Shortly before all that, she'll also have Jupiter trine Venus for 3 weeks in December, followed by Jupiter conjunct her Juno (!) in January.

What do you think? The right time to marry? Or even just for moving together with that guy?

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wild sheep
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posted May 22, 2008 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wild sheep     Edit/Delete Message
Nothing against your friend, but...I think the wedding is going to postpone itself. Unless all those oppositions symbolize a powerful, destiny-driven connection, which, well...I doubt it. Hopefully, you can be there to support her if it goes South.

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alvarella777
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posted May 23, 2008 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, wildsheep! I feel so bad, like a "wet blanket" to her plans (chan you say so in English?) ... she knows that I am dealing with astrology a bit, and this relationship of hers is a bit ... volatile ... and she asked me for advice. I guess she asked a bit "for fun" - but then I saw all this heavy stuff coming up - and now I find it hard to deliver the message to her, that she REALLY should be careful and keep her emotions and wedding-plans in check and all ...

Any other opinions on these transits?

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vuillard
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posted May 23, 2008 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vuillard     Edit/Delete Message
you are clearly jealous, I don't see any 'heavy' transit here- allow the woman her free will to marry tha man she loves

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Lana29865
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posted May 23, 2008 06:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lana29865     Edit/Delete Message
Oppositions can be also be quite positive and transits will pass.

I would never ever let astrology dictate what I will do in my life, especially not in matters of the heart.

Especially since there is always a big risk of misinterpretation.


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alvarella777
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posted May 23, 2008 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
hey vuillard - i am not "jealous". this is a close friend of mine, and i see that she is not entirely happy in her relationship, and i have trouble telling her about my doubts because i do NOT want to spoil her perspectives. that's what i clearly stated before. your remark is ... well.

anyway: how do you all deal with some problem like this? somebody asks you for your advice - you sense that this person is hoping for a positive statement, that he/she is craving support - but, honestly, you have your doubts? you want to protect this person - and shy away from telling your doubts ... it IS difficult, isn't it?

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Jan_A
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posted May 23, 2008 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jan_A     Edit/Delete Message
Where are heavy transits ?
Saturn in conjunction with AC and Uranus on DC are frequent marriage indicators. Oppositions are typical for marriage too. There is absolutely no problem here.

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Belage
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posted May 23, 2008 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message
I don't like Saturn opposite Chiron, as it indicates heartbreak. And I don't like Saturn on the ascendant as it is opposes the house of marriage. I would want Saturn making supportive aspects to my marriage house, not stressful ones. Saturn is no joke.

Perhaps she should get married earlier, when Jupiter is going to trine her Venus

But honestly, I would NOT say anything to her, unless I considered myself an expert on marriage dates. Let her go through her marriage. If her relationship is volatile before the marriage, it will be so after. Marriage doesn't fix things. Sometimes, people have to grow through experiences, not by avoiding them.

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alvarella777
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posted May 23, 2008 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
Well ... I talked about my hesitation telling her about my doubts... And I think I won't - no, I won't. At least not about the astrological things I see coming.

"Heavy aspects": Well, I guess Saturn opp. Chiron - AND Chiron oppos. Sun implicate some hurting experience, after all the classical interpretations ... ("healing" may be felt some when after that tansit).

And Neptune oppos. Sun & Mercury ... does indicate some foggyness, right? It implies the risk of misunderstandings and delusions, as I'd rate that - the opposite of "clear thinking".

Yes - I DO believe, that these are rather difficult aspects, to say the least.

Apart from that, Uranus conjunct the DC and entering the 7th house would not naturally imply "commitment" and long lasting bonds, if I am not completely wrong here...??? (In fact, there's currently a whole threat dealing with the fickleness that Uranus in the 7th brings...)

So - I am wondering a bit, why some of you rate these transits as "not at all difficult" ...?

Anyway. Thanks for your replies. Food for thought is always a good thing.

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cristiname
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posted May 23, 2008 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cristiname     Edit/Delete Message
Saturn over the Asc is a working hard, growing up transit = quite appropriate for getting married.

Uranus over the Desc is a 'sudden change' or 'intensification'; having your best friend trying to convince you to change the wedding date could be just the thing this transit would bring. Doubt. Restlessness. Nervousness.

IF it will work against this commitment, then the brake will happen naturally; she will, by her self, find her way out. No reason to interfere - not a good thing to take the blame for it, really.

However! IF these transits happen at the same time, then Saturn will also oppose Uranus, so there'll be a full on conflict between the demands of growing up and the drive to brake free. I'm actually curious to see which will prevail. Some astrologers say Uranus always wins against Saturn.

PS conj/opp from Saturn speak of assuming responsibility. are THE thing to have on/around the time smb is getting married. without these, the marriage may be fairytale like, but it will lack commitment, and lasting value.

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted May 23, 2008 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
I think you should be honest with your friend and tell her that you do not know enough about astrology to advise someone about their marriage date, because that's the truth. Some of these measurements could just be suggesting the stress and tension that occurs when planning the wedding event, dealing with family members, travel plans, purchasing dresses, all kinds of things.

Another option is to tell your friend that the chart suggests that she needs to be honest with herself about her wedding and her relationship. That's all, nothing else. If she pushes you for particular areas of concern, or more clarity you just say that the chart directs her back to herself and then ask her what she thinks it means. Only she knows what it means to be honest with herself about her wedding and relationship.

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