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Jcfam6
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posted May 24, 2008 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jcfam6     Edit/Delete Message
Hi,
I was adopted at 3 from Korea, so I do not have my time of birth nor will I ever have access to it. I was thinking of gettng my chart rectified to get a birth time, but before I shell out the money (which my hubby is not for) I was hoping I could get some more info on the acsendants. I have them narrowed down to 2 which I feel I could be although it gets so confusing because I can relate to most of them. My birthdate is 8-5-78. Any more info on these rising signs would be much appreciated by me and my husband's wallet!

Rising signs I have narrowed down:

Scorpio- although from what I have read I feel I may not have all that intensity

Virgo-I have a lot of virgo in my chart so maybe that is why I can relate.

I know I do not come on loud and brash, sometimes I am very outgoing other times I could care less and do not want to talk to anyone. I feel like my personality is from one end to the other. My sun sign is leo but I feel like my rising sign is something opposite of it. I love finding out about myself and others and this is driving me crazy not knowing!

Would posting a pic help?

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted May 24, 2008 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message
yes. a picture would help.. only to guess though.

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Jcfam6
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posted May 24, 2008 01:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jcfam6     Edit/Delete Message
Okay here is a pic, a it blurry but the only I could find right now.

Hopefully this works.

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Jcfam6
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posted May 24, 2008 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jcfam6     Edit/Delete Message
Let me see if I can make it bigger.

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Jcfam6
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posted May 24, 2008 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jcfam6     Edit/Delete Message
Okay well I guess that's as good as it gets.

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted May 24, 2008 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message
what are your other placements?

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Jcfam6
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posted May 24, 2008 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jcfam6     Edit/Delete Message
Zodiac in degrees 0.00 Time unknown
Sun Leo 11.54
Moon Leo 18.34
Mercury Virgo 3.00 R
Venus Virgo 26.15
Mars Libra 0.10
Jupiter Cancer 23.27
Saturn Virgo 1.06
Uranus Scorpio 12.24
Neptune Sagittarius 15.42 R
Pluto Libra 14.24
Lilith Cancer 22.12
Asc node Virgo 27.37


Planet Aspect Planet Orb/Value
Sun Conjunction Moon 6.39 381
Sun Square Uranus 0.30 -179
Sun Trine Neptune 3.48 95
Sun Sextile Pluto 2.30 124
Moon Trine Neptune 2.52 71
Mercury Conjunction Saturn 1.54 583
Venus Conjunction Mars 3.55 111
Venus Sextile Jupiter 2.48 47
Neptune Sextile Pluto 1.18 41
1453 -179 1274

I also found another pic where you can see my face better.

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted May 24, 2008 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message
nice.

I am thinking your ascendant is in Gemini.


if you could describe yourself and demeanor in public or around people. or the most basic of your outside personality.

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Jcfam6
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posted May 24, 2008 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jcfam6     Edit/Delete Message
Seeing Stars thanks for your responses!

I have always felt like a more toned down leo (although a leo without a doubt), when I found out that your rising makes you appear differently than your sun sign is. That explained a lot. So that was why I was thinking my rising sign would be something that would make me a more subtle leo. People who don't know me are always so shocked when I tell them I have a bad temper.
Isn't gemini rising usually a social butterfly, always talking and such? I am not loquacious around new people, I am more reserved but by no means closed off. I feel I still come across as warm and friendly.

ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE?

Anyone else's observations or any info on rising signs would be great!

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted May 24, 2008 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message
well if you are more reserved that sounds like virgo. which is also my ascendant. the best thing you could do would be to read the 12 different rising descriptions and narrow them down yourself and then ask other people.

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted May 24, 2008 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message
lol im sorry i need to learn how to read..

ok so virgo or scorpio .. well they have similar things going on with them. but by the way you are looking I would say scorpio ascending.

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Got Gemini?
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posted May 24, 2008 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
Being a Gemini myself, I get that happy-go-lucky Gem vibe from your smile. So I would say either Gem or Libra.

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Virgo Asc & Mars
Gemini Sun
Libra Moon (conjunct Pluto 0º in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus

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BlueRoamer
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posted May 24, 2008 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
lol you said rect

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clockworkrose
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posted May 24, 2008 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for clockworkrose     Edit/Delete Message
hmm, it's really hard to say. Did you look into the house positions? Reading through the positions of the sun, moon, venus in the houses and seeing which ones you seem to relate to? It's really hard to guess ascendants, especially from the little info we've been given. Someone who knows you personally would be a much better judge. they can see how you interact in social situations, how you appear to others, ect.

scorpio risings are usually secretive, reserved, soft-spoken, mysterious, they are usually watching and observing rather than talking.

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izodesmozina
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posted May 24, 2008 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for izodesmozina     Edit/Delete Message
At first I wanted to say Sagittarius, or at least Fire. I can see the Leo in you.

I had this problem with my Mom, she had no idea what time she was born. I think I finally got it right. The signs on house cusps are of great help, in my experience. Here are some questions for you:
-what do you do for a living? What mark do you leave in this world?
-how do you behave in a relationship? What kind of people do you attract? You mentioned a husband, what can you tell us about him? Did you marry at young age? Is there an age difference?
-what is your attitude towards money?
-do you like to stay indoors a lot or not? How does your house look like? What kind of decorations did you use? Was it your idea or did you go to a proffessional?
-do you have children? If yes, how many and what can you say about their personality? If not, how many do you want to have? Do you want to have twins? Do you think you want to adopt children yourself?
-how do you diet? Do you have pets? How do you behave towards them? Are you health-conscious? Do you have any health conditions?
-what is your approach on spirituality?
-are you religious? How do you feel about this?
-what can you tell us about your friends?
-do you like to travel? Where?
-what kind of student were you? Fast learner? Slow learner? Did you enjoy study?

Stuff like this.

Being adopted should show in your chart. Lalalinda mentioned once Neptune in the 4th house as representing mystery about your birth, childhood, parents. But you could just as well have Scorpio on the 4H or Pisces. So if Neptune should be in your 4th, you could have Virgo rising, perhaps with Sun and Moon in your 12th house - maybe this is why you feel you don't relate so well with your Leo side.

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Unmoved
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posted May 24, 2008 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Im scorpio rising. Im sure that from what you observe Im an open person, but trust me Im not. Without giving myself away, lets just say that transparency is a tool most of the times. Some people have seen beyond my persona but its because I allowed it. The face of darkness is usually the light.

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Jcfam6
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posted May 24, 2008 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jcfam6     Edit/Delete Message
Clockworkrose-
When I imput my info into astro without the time it doesn't show the house numbers, or even the houses. I have asked my husband but he usually tells me that each one sounds like me at least parts of them. My best friend is in Israel right now, and I don't trust anyone else's observations.

Does it help by saying I do not have lots of friends, but prefer to have 1 good friend or so. I like to pick my friends and I do not like needy people who need to be with me or talk to me all the time. I like to hang out have a good time go back to my life and don't need to talk everyday.

Izodesmozina-
How did you figure out your mom's time? After answering those questions what should I do with the answers? I do not know enough about each rising sign and have not been able to get enough info from the internet (which is why I am here). One thing I have found interesting is that all the most important people throughout my life have all been cancers. My best friends and boyfriends and now husband.

Unmoved-
Do you find your sun sign affects your scorpio asc? Like if I am a leo sun with scorp rising I would appear differently than a Cancer with scorpio rising?

Blueroamer-
You sound like my husband.

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Nightjar
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posted May 24, 2008 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nightjar     Edit/Delete Message
Just based on your looks, I would rule out Scorpio rising. One of the other two water risings might be closer to the truth.
When you go to Astro.com, try different birth times so that you can see what kind of charts different ascendants give you.

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Unmoved
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posted May 24, 2008 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Thats a good point. As a leo it just tells me the motives behind your actions eg. For attention. Your asc would show how you go about in getting that validtion. You sound like me so I would say that you get what you want throuph observation of people and seeing how you can fulfil their needs right? But that also soumds like Virgo. So what are you? systematic more than intuitive in your observations of people? Do you give yourself the benefit of a doubt when observing people? Do you usually use prevention or the cure to solve problems? These question will tell me which you are likely to be between virgo or scorpio rising.

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posted May 24, 2008 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
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clockworkrose
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posted May 24, 2008 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for clockworkrose     Edit/Delete Message
I'm a scorpio rising. sure, the sun sign would have an influence... but, the rising sign is primarily the sign that most people will see when you first meet them / in social situations. It is the surface personality. For example, I'm an Aquarius Sun, Cancer Moon, Scorpio Rising... but b/c of my scorpio rising, I at first appear as quiet, mysterious, intense, secretive to others, even when I have the outgoing sign of Aquarius. People tend not to see that side of me (aquarius sun) until I trust them and know them for awhile (scorpio). Scorpio will be the most visible when you first meet people (ascendant)... it has a tendency to overwhelm everything else. sorry, i'm babbling lol.

Here's a good website on Rising signs if you haven't already visited it: http://www.cafeastrology.com/risingsignsascendant.html

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Jcfam6
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posted May 24, 2008 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jcfam6     Edit/Delete Message
NIghtjar-
I have done that. Those are the two I feel I can identify with the most based on the info they gave me.

Clockworkrose-
Cafeastrology is one of my fav sites, I have been on there a lot. Any other recommendations?

Umoved-
I had to think a bit about your questions. What do you mean by fulfilling their needs to get what I want? I think I am more intuitive with my observations regarding people. Explain what you mean by prevention or cure to solve problems.

Is chart rectification pretty accurate?

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Unmoved
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posted May 24, 2008 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Well- would you avoid a challenge when you know the highest probability is going to give you a loss or would you try to go for that chance of winning no matter how slim it is? But I Already think ur scorpio asc too btw.

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wild sheep
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posted May 24, 2008 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wild sheep     Edit/Delete Message
Jcfam6, I'm joining with those who don't think Scorpio is quite right. I'm a Scorp Rising and I can usually spot another one at fifty paces. Don't think that's your Ascendant.

My first guess was: Aquarius, primarily because of your rounded features. I've seen that a lot in Aqua Rising if it's toward the tail end of Aqua, inching toward a Pisces Rising. My other guess is either Cancer or (maybe, maybe, Gemini).

If I were you, I'd run a bunch of charts with different Ascendants at astro.com or something until you came up with a chart description that fits you best.

And yes, I find that natal chart rectification can produce an accurate chart.

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"You stay young as long as you can learn, acquire new habits and suffer contradiction." (Marie von Ebner-Eschenbach)

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Jcfam6
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posted May 24, 2008 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jcfam6     Edit/Delete Message
Unmoved-
We are talking in context to people I do not know right? I would avoid confrontation with someone I do not know. I don't like to make a scene in public. With someone close like my husband I do not back down, but that would be the leo.

What clockworkrose said about how scorpios appear I do not think is me. I don't feel people think I am intense or mysterious or secretive. Probably the opposite. When I was reading a description of leo sun scorp rising on astro it sounded like me though.

Everyone who knows their time of birth is so lucky, this is confusing. How much does time of birth really affect your chart?

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