posted June 02, 2008 09:29 AM         

Look at this:

She had a Gemini ASC - I have a Sagittarius-ASC

her Stellium in Gemini and Taurus falls into my 6th and 7th house; my Stellium in Sagittarius falls into her 6th and 7th house.

her MC exactly conjuncts my Moon

her Sun-Moon-conjunction exactly conjuncts my Karma

her NN exactly conjuncts my Kaali and conjuncts my SN by 2°

her Mars exactly conjuncts my SN (and my Kaali and DC)

her Venus exactly opposes my Mars and conjuncts my DC

her Saturn exactly conjuncts my Sun-Moon-midpoint and Antivertex and opposes my Saturn by 3°

her retograde Saturn falls into Capricorn in 8th house, while my retograde Saturn is in Cancer in 8th house

she had a wide Saturn-Eros-square, while I have a wide Saturn-Eros-conjunction

her Amor conjuncts my draconic Antivertex

WOW!

Even more interesting, almost hilarious, is the fact, that Csar Nicholas` chart bears some connections to Musicman`s chart!

Nicholas had Sun in Taurus and Moon in Aries - Musicman has Sun in Aries and Moon in Taurus

Nicholas had ASC in Virgo, Musicman has ASC in Pisces (probably even conjunct Nicholas` DC)

Nicholas`DC exactly conjuncts musicman`s Chiron and Nicholas ASC exactly conjunct musicman`s Pluto

Nicholas Sun and MC are exactly conjunct Musicman`s Valentine

Nicholas Pluto is conjunct musicman`s Moon (but only widely)

Musicman`s NN is conjunct Nicholas` cusp of 12th house

Nicholas` SN falls into musicman`s 12th house, and the NN into 6th house

Nicholas` NN is conjunct musicman`s Psyche, Isis and Osiris, while Nicholas ` SN is conjunct musicman`s Kaali and Siva

Nicholas had a Venus-Uranus-conjunction in 10th house - musicman has Venus exactly solstice conjunct Uranus and square Saturn

Nicholas Neptune conjuncts musicman`s Sun exactly

Nicholas Eros and Amor are exactly conjunct musicman`s SN

Am I allowed to say WOW?
How funny is this coincidence?

posted June 02, 2008 01:44 PM         

I checked the Part of Reincarnation.

Regarding the Part of REincarnation there`s an interesting theme in musicman`s and my chart.

My Part of Reincarnation is conjunct his Sun (and exactly conjunct our composite SN - yes, I know, I know ), and his Part of Reincarnation (if I got his asc right, but this degree reacted the best to progressions, transit and directions) is conjunct my Moon.

Get this?
My part of Reincarnation conjunct his Sun
his part of Reincarnation conjunct my Moon

His part of Reincarnation also conjunct his SN.

I then compared the parts of Reincarnation with the charts of Nicholas and Alexandra.
And his part of Reincarnation conjuncts Alexandra`s MC, which in turn conjuncts my Moon. (his part of reincarnation is also exactly trine Alexandra`s Sun and Moon, which exactly conjuncts my Karma).
My part of Reincarnation conjuncts Nicholas` Neptune and Moon, which in turn conjuncts Musicman`s Sun (and trines his NN). lol

posted June 03, 2008 03:27 PM         

yes, I shall watch out for that film.

Lara,

I don`t think I really grasp what you said. What do you mean by that?

I for my part have been doing some more astrological research, and I noticed something really really really spooky.

You know I`m trapped in that kinda emotional spiritual triangle with my two musicmen, P and A.
Well, I just read about the killing of Rasputin and he had been killed the exact night 50 years before A has been born. The EXACT date. lol
Also he has been born on a 22nd as has A.
They even share the same birthpath: 11

That made me look up the other birthpaths, too.
Well, Alix` birthpath was 3 - mine is 33.
Nicholas` birthpath was 1 - P`s is 11.
How is that for a coincidence?

Well, I then started collecting the interesting astrological parallels (focusing on conjunctions and oppositions):

The comparision between my and Alexandra`s chart:

My Karma conjuncts her Sun and Moon exactly and also her NN and regarding to some sources her ASC. If I believe the other time is right, then my Prenatal Ecclipse (Sun and Moon) falls EXACTLY opposite her ASC.

my Vertex oposes her Saturn (1) and conjuncts her lilith exactly.

my SN conjunct her Sun, Moon, NN and according to some sources also her ASC. *gulps*

my dr Sun conjuncts her Chiron exactly.

my dr Moon conjuncts her Venus (1)

my Mars opposes her Venus exactly.

my DC conjunct her Venus and Mars

my dr IC conjunct her LIlith

my Saturn opposes her Saturn

my Chiron conjunct her Chiron and squares her Saturn exactly

my dr Lilith conjuncts her Sun and Moon exactly and also conjuncts her NN and maybe ASC.

my Moon conjuncts her MC exactly

I also checked the two Points of Reincarnation:

my PoR conjuncts her Chiron
my PoR (2) opposes her Pluto

And I thought, it could be interesting to check the aspects of my PoR to Nicholas and Rasputin.

my PoR conjuncts Nicholas` Moon
my dr PoR conjuncts Nicholas Lilith

my dr PoR (2) widely conjuncts Nicholas` Ic, opposie his Pluto and is antiscia his LIlith

my dr PoR opposes Rasputin`s Sun
and my PoR (2) opposes R`s Sun

The comparision of P with Nicholas:

his Karma falls into the same Sign as N`s Sun and MC

his Sun is in ARies, while his Moon is in tAurus - N`s Sun is in Taurus and Moon in Aries

his NN conjuncts N`s Vertex and exactly squares N`s Pluto

his dr Vertex antiscia N`s Moon

his Saturn conjuncts N`s Vertex and conjuncts N`s Lilith

his dr Saturn opposes N``s Chiron

his Pluto exactly conjuncts N`s ASC

his dr Pluto conjuncts N`s Mars and exactly antiscia N`s ASC

his dr Sun conjuncts N`s Saturn

his Moon conjuncts N`s Pluto

his ASC oposies N`s AC

his dr IC conjuncts N`Lilith

his Chiron exactly conjuncts N`s DC

his PoR conjuncts N`s Vertex
his dr PoR opposies N`s Chiron
his Por (2) conjuncts N`s Chiron closely
his dr PoR (2) opoises N`s Pluto

in relation to the other:

his PoR exactly conjuncts Alix MC (and my Moon)
his dr PoR antiscia exactly Alix MC
His PoR also trines her Sun, Moon, NN and ASC closely, which as you may remember, fall exactly onto my Karma and Prenatal Ecclipse.

his PoR conjuncts Rasputin`s SN exactly and is antiscia R`s Pluto (which in turn is square and conjunct A`s Nodal axis and falls onto P`s own SN - let`s talk heavy karmic links here, shall we?)

his dr PoR oppoises R`s ASC and Chiron

his PoR (2) conjuncts R`s Asc and Chiron

his dr Por (2) oppoises R`s Moon / Pluto-conjunction (which falls onto A`s nodal axis and squares my Moon - phew)

And the comparision between A and Rasputin:

his Karma almost exactly opposes R`s Sun

his dr Karma opposes R`s Saturn

his NN conjuncts R`s Moon and Pluto exactly and is antiscia R`s NN

his dr Pluto oposies R`s Sun

his dr Chiron opposes R`s Sun

his Lilith exactly conjuncts R`s ASC and Chiron

his dr Lilith conjuncts R`s SN

his Sun exactly conjuncts R`s MC

his dr Sun exactly opopises R`s Moon and Pluto

his PoR opposes R`s lilith and widely conjucnts R`s Mars

in relation to the other:

his PoR anatiscia exactly Alexandra`s Lilith

his dr PoR opposes Alexandra`s Saturn and conjuncts her Lilith closely

his PoR conjuncts Nicholas` ASC exactly

his PoR (2) oppoises Alexandra`s Sun, Moon, ASC, NN (and my Karma btw)

his dr PoR antiscia Nicholas` Sun and MC closely

This is almost freaky, isn`t it?

I mean we are talking 6 charts here, which show this strong karmic interplay.

posted June 03, 2008 03:34 PM         

Another small, yet interesting coincidence, I actually have a distant cousin with haemophilia, and during my puberty my mum talked to me that she had been afraid that I could carry this sickness inside of me. But I guess not.

Another small coincidence, which actually bears some resemblance with experiences of Rasputin`s childhood.
My family has some sort of "drowning-karma". My Mum had to witness the death of her little brother, when he drowned in a pond. I think she was about 4 and he was about 2 years then.
A while later I jumped into a swimmingpool and drowned, and it was just lucky coincidence my father found me. Actually they believed me to be dead, but here I am.
Some years later my youngest brother fell into a pond, and he only survived because my middle brother, who is mentally handicapped (Down syndrome) pulled him out of this pond.

Oh, and yes, during my childhood I seemed to have dreamed in Russian. At least my mum told me the story once, when they came home, and I was already asleep, but she didn`t notice and asked me something, to which I was babbling away in a foreing language, which she identified as "probably Russian" (her mother knew how to speak Russian, since my family originally comes from near the border between Poland and Russia and were participants of the great escape west, during the world war II; that area back then belonged to Germany, but through the closeness to the East, my grandmother learned to speak Russian I guess).

Oh yes, and I remember that I had a recurring dream as a teenager, in which I was having a son; a cute boy with soft thick brown hair and blue eyes and for some reason he was named Nicholas. I was obsessed with that name for a while. lol

*shrugs* I dunno, strange childhood-memories are this, aren`t tehy?

But maybe it`s normal to have some kind of astrological links to people from the past history.
Have you ever found yours?

DD

posted June 03, 2008 05:29 PM         

He was related directly to a member of my family!

So interesting though what you have written... hmmm.

posted June 03, 2008 05:34 PM         

I checked P`s chart for name asteroids, and his Alexandra is exactly conjunct my name in my chart (Orb: 0°30).

And his Nicky (Nicholas) is conjunct his birthname AND psydonyme in my chart (orb: 0°03).

posted June 03, 2008 05:46 PM         

what is your relation to Rasputing?

Well, I found that quite intriguing and fascinating what I found there. But maybe I should say it clearly, I don`t think that I`m the reincarnated Alix of Hesse (I guess, there are many contestants for that "honour"), nor do I want to imply that I think P has been Nicholas nor do I think that A has been Rasputin in a previous life.

But what it shows, maybe, is that the spiritual or astrological triangle that is between A, P and me bears some resemblance to the triangle between Alix, Nicky and Rasputin.

Actuall up to the point, that each of us seem to reflect certain traits of the "astrological relative".
I do find myself quite a bit in the description of Alix. How she has been a lively, happy child, and then after the death of her mother she became withdrawn and remote. That is something my own mother has always expressed her concern about. She keeps on saying that I have been such a happy, carefree, always smiling, "sunny" child, and then all at once I became kinda withdrawn, calm, melancholic and detached. She also was always worried about my neglecting of my "social duties", of making friends and going to parties and stuff. It just wasn`t my kind of stuff. I rather stayed home alone with my family and friends than waste my time on people I didn`T even want to know or who would talk about me behind my back as I knew. So, I actually find myself, or a part of myself, in that side of Alexandra`s personality. Not to mention my inclination to the mystical and spiritual side of life.

Regarding P, well I found it kinda funny. It is stated that Nicholas was a gentle and kind man, who was a good horseman and a good dancer.
WEll, P is a trained dancer (and now trains other dancers himself) and he often stated in interviews that, if he hadn`t become a dancer, he would have become a professional horseman. lol

Regarding A, I dare say he`s the most exotic spiritual person of the three of us. He has "peeked" in spiritual groups that I didn`t even know existed.
Some of his inclinations are a bit "suspicious" to me, like his interest in Osho (that he expressed at least once or twice), but I don`t want to be judgmental.

I don`t know either of them good enough to say if there are other personal parallels, except for I know that A is much more ambitious than P seems to be. P is more the layed back relaxed type, who wants to have fun in what he does; and while A seems to want to enjoy himself, too, there is also some kind of ambitious aura around him. He wants to be in charge, that`s what it seems to me, at least.

So, maybe these are just coincidental parallels, that get highlighted in astrology.

posted June 03, 2008 05:53 PM         

ok, his daughter who is related to my family member is this one:

"Rasputin's daughter, Maria Rasputin (Matryona Rasputina) (1889–1977), emigrated to France after the October Revolution, and then to the U.S. There she worked as a dancer and then a tiger-trainer in a circus. She left memoirs[17] about her father, wherein she painted an almost saintly picture of him, insisting that most of the negative stories were based on slander and the misinterpretations of facts by his enemies."

It was actually Canada that she went to.... and Rasputin was my family member's great grandfather