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writesomething
Knowflake Posts: 2376
From: meet me in montauk
Registered: May 2006
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posted June 05, 2008 06:27 PM
 
why does this guy come off so needy?(i dont mean it sound mean, i dont mind needy, its just i dont know him well) i like him, but i dont know him that well...when i first met him, he seemed to like me too quickly, and i looked at his chart and was really surprised that a gemini filled chart could act so emotional and passionate? esp with saturn in the 4th(emotions), and venus opposite uranus.  IP: Logged |
Seeing Stars 7.21
Knowflake Posts: 1301
From: New York
Registered: Dec 2006
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posted June 05, 2008 06:41 PM
theres a few things I see. Sun conjunct Venus in gemini. a very forward communicative attitude with his love. Moon in the 11th. Emotions in the house of aquaintences and friends and public. stellium in the 4th. he might have had a rough childhood with the mars saturn in the 4th conjunct the IC. and the Uranus in the 4th is never good either. I think the moon opposite neptune might be connected as well.. but im not sure how.IP: Logged |
blue moon
Moderator Posts: 4700
From: U.K
Registered: Dec 2007
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posted June 05, 2008 06:56 PM
Mars Conjunct Saturn in Scorpio ~> frustration. They are needy alright. "Frustration brings out the most dangerous kind of energy in you." (AstrologyWeekly) IP: Logged |
Geocosmic Valentine
Knowflake Posts: 994
From: New York, NY
Registered: Sep 2007
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posted June 05, 2008 07:00 PM
It's also his 4th house. Saturn conjunct 4th house cusp and Mars in Scorpio suggests that his early home life was brutal and he probably didn't receive proper nurturing. He's got a tremendous need for nurturing. He might have the feeling that his mother vanished at some very early point in his life, she may have vanished. His father might have been absent from his life or if he was in the home he was probably an unimaginable tyrant. When I say unimaginable, you probably really don't want the details...Geocosmic Valentine
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writesomething
Knowflake Posts: 2376
From: meet me in montauk
Registered: May 2006
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posted June 05, 2008 07:48 PM
Geo- his parents are present in his life, his parents are married still, and they seem to live a nice life. I noticed the aspect too, and wondered about his father, he said his parents are great...maybe he's in denial, or he just doesnt see his childhood as harsh...IP: Logged |
amowls
Knowflake Posts: 866
From: Richmond, VA USA
Registered: Dec 2007
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posted June 05, 2008 08:43 PM
You should check his current transits. Isn't Chiron in Aqua right now? Maybe old relationship wounds have made him needy.IP: Logged |
writesomething
Knowflake Posts: 2376
From: meet me in montauk
Registered: May 2006
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posted June 05, 2008 09:03 PM
amo- hes never had a serious relationship. his longest relationship is 3 months. i dont know what to make of him...hes very attractive, i just get a little freaked out when someone likes me too quickly...IP: Logged |
plutomaki
Knowflake Posts: 73
From: Puruuto
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted June 10, 2008 12:57 PM
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Geocosmic Valentine
Knowflake Posts: 994
From: New York, NY
Registered: Sep 2007
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posted June 10, 2008 01:19 PM
Yeah, I'm sure his parents are great. My parents were great, too. But I don't tell people that I'm trying to impress that my father's a functional alcoholic who was tyrannical or that my mother needed freedom so she left my early household, which is technically abandonment. The truth is, they were great, even after they separated they had an equal hand in raising us, but life wasn't rosey by any means.When I do consultations in person, people ALWAYS start out by saying, "My father was great, he may have been a little strict, but that was too my benefit, I'm successful now because of it." or "Sure, my mother was a character, she would get tipsy now and then, but she wasn't abusive." After about 10 minutes into the consultation, the truth begins to come out, "Oh, yeah. My father spanked me EVERY DAY OF MY CHILDHOOD. I wasn't that bad, it wasn't necessary." or "Yeah, I'd come home from school and my mother was tanked she didn't have lunch ready for me and friends after school, we'd make peanut butter and marshmallows for lunch everyday. She wasn't sober enough to tell my Dad not to hit me for something that wasn't even my fault!" That's how those things come out, 99% of the time. So for this guy when I see Saturn RX conjunct Mars hugging the 4th house cusp like that (IN SCORPIO), I am 99% sure this guys home life was an iron clad nightmare, and it's got something to do with inappropriate behavior and massive control issues with his mother or father or both. If there was ever an issue to be in denial about so you can move on with your life...it's an aspect like that Mars-Saturn RX in Scorpio right on the 4th house cusp. If you give it time, you may begin to notice some of these issues popping out of him. You may also notice a smouldering temper with him and a tough guy persona. Maybe not right away, but as you get to know each other, it'll come out. I don't mean to say that everyone with Mars-Saturn conjunctions are like that, but you mentioned a very interesting tip to this iceburg when you asked, "Why is this guy so needy". We usually have our needs met first and foremost by our mothers, on the most primitive lever. With Saturn hugging the 4th house cusp (that's the mother) and Saturn who is the king of "NO" "STOP" "LIMITATIONS", it speaks volumes about her being in control, but in a very cold manner. Ok, I'm done.  NO wait! Is this guy in the construction industry or does he do iron-work of some kind? Let me know if you can. Geocosmic Valentine
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taurus/gemini cusp
Knowflake Posts: 750
From: London, England
Registered: Sep 2006
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posted June 10, 2008 06:10 PM
Geocosmic - you've just described huge portions of my childhood without even realizing it!  No seriously - I have Scorpio and Mars in the 4th house. I also have Pluto there too and lets not forget that they're all retrograde. Yuk. Iron Clad Nightmare, is no understatement.  Writesomething - this lad was born just 10 days after me and we have extremely similar charts - the messed up 4th house and lots of yummy 10/11th house action. We even have the same Yod - pointing towards our Sun's (endlessly searching for a sense of self?). I wouldn't have said that I came across as needy, but then that's for others to answer I guess. I am needy though - very much so, and probably because of my rough start. I have more Taurus than this guy though, and a thick skinned moon in Aquarius. However, my moon squares Pluto, so that's what I'd attribute my neediness to - something this guy doesn't have in his chart. I think it's the childhood thing to be honest. Or the moon opposition to Neptune.  Edited to add: a lot of people think my parents are great and in some ways they are - (alkies are always great drinking buddies!), but home life was pretty joyless to say the least. IP: Logged | |
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