posted June 11, 2008 04:37 PM         

In the analisys of a SR wich day/time would you consider? The "official birthday" or the real astronomical time? I can't rule out for now any posibility. One would say that the energy of the conjunction is the main factor for analising this kind of chart, so it would be the logical choice.
On the other hand, astrology raises the problem of the "meaning" in interpretations. The "meaning" of Pluto, for exemple, and not the actual energy comming from the planet itself; more like an esoteric point of view.

posted June 11, 2008 05:40 PM         

My Sun is in 5'20 Scorpio, and I was born on October 29th.
Sun is in 5'20 Scorpio on October 28th.
That's a Solar Return.

also....another thing....Transiting Sun conjunct Sun does not just occur on Solar Return nor birthday. It also occurs the days before the birth and days after the birthday....if you take orbs into account.

You can feel the affects of Sun conjunct Sun before the actual solar return when it's within 3 degree orb even more.....depending on how sensitive you are to transits. I use 3 degree orb for applying transits and 1 degree orb for separating transits. Once the aspects gets past exact, it gradually weakens.

All planetary returns are about the return of the exact position of the planets.

You also take in consideration that there are leap years. Some months have extra or fewer days in a year than other years.

Solar Return charts are used for yearlong forecasts. The astrologer does a chart for all the heavenly body positions for the moment of that Solar Return,and it's used as yearlong forecast. It's like a yearlong natal chart that can respond to transits,solar arcs,secondary progressions, and even synastry.

Of course..the solar return carries on its energy to its birthday....all the way to the next solar return. That's why Solar Return chart is very valuable tools for forecasting.

I love them. I also love lunar returns for monthly forecasts.

This explains how Solar Returns work:

General:

A Solar Return chart is a chart calculated for the exact moment when the Sun returns to its natal position (within 2 days of one's birthday). This chart can be read much like a natal chart, except that it must be kept in mind that it is in effect only for the course of a year—approximately from birthday to birthday. [Some astrologers believe the Solar Return is in effect for a longer period of time.]

It is especially important to have an accurate birth time when working with Return charts.

Note that astrologers work with lunar returns and planetary returns as well. We interpret Venus Returns here.

Keys to Interpreting Solar Returns:

A Solar Return chart can be read in as much detail as desired. Some key points to consider are as follows:

1.

The Ascendant of the Solar Return chart will color the individual's approach to his or her environment for the year. For example, if Aries is on the Ascendant in the Solar Return chart, the individual may approach the year with increased energy and enterprise, and perhaps with some impatience. It describes the individual's overall temperament and attitude during the period. Read more about the Solar Return Ascendant sign. The ruler of the Ascending sign, and its position by sign, house, and aspect, will hold more information as to the individual's general temperament and focus for the year.
2.

Note which planets and points in the natal chart, if any, are effectively brought to an angle of the Solar Return chart. Let's say, for example, that the Solar Return Ascendant is 22 degrees Virgo, and the natal position of Venus is 24 degrees Virgo. The natal Venus is therefore conjunct the Solar Return Ascendant, and one can presume that the condition and issues surrounding the individual's natal Venus will be highlighted (effectively coming to the fore) in the Solar Return year. This consideration shows us what natal conditions, or inherent personality issues, are highlighted in the year of the Solar Return. If, for example, you have a natal Sun square Mars, and the Sun is on the Solar Return Ascendant, perhaps with Mars on the Midheaven as well, we can safely presume that the Sun-Mars struggle or challenge will be especially highlighted in both a personal (Ascendant) and public (Midheaven) manner.
3.

Similarly, note which Solar Return planets are on or aspecting Solar Return angles. These are transits that are emphasized in the year of the Solar Return.
4.

What is the condition of the Sun? Where is it located by house? (We know the sign, of course, because it will be at the exact natal position). This can show a strong area of focus for the upcoming year. The house position of the Sun in the SR chart shows where (which areas of life) the individual wants to shine. The individual will take pride in this part of his or her life, and a big ego investment lies in this area. He or she has the opportunity to rejuvenate this area. What kind of aspects does the Sun make? See interpretations of the Solar Return Sun in aspect.
5.

Another area of focus this year can be found by determining which natal house is effectively brought to the Ascendant. For example, if the Solar Return Ascendant is 14 degrees Cancer, and this degree is found in the natal fifth house, the natal fifth house is effectively "brought" to the Ascendant, and will be another area of focus.
6.

Where is the Moon? The position of the Moon by house and sign will show where your heart is, so to speak. If, for example, the Solar Return Moon is in Libra in the 5th house, you will likely to be emotionally tied up in, and concentrated on, love and relationship. A strong need for personal self-expression will be characteristic of the year, and emotional ups and downs are likely to occur in this area of life, simply because this is where your heart is—this is the area of life that you have the biggest emotional investment in—and you may not be completely rational and "in control" in this area. More than simple fluctuations will be in store in this area of life if, for example, the Moon is also forming a square to Pluto in the Solar Return chart. Profound changes are likely to occur here. Thus, factoring in the Moon's aspects will help refine the reading. Read more about the Solar Return Moon by sign, house, and aspect.
7.

Note that a Solar Return chart can be read much like a natal chart, always keeping in mind that it is transient rather than permanent. If you are interested in looking at a specific area, such as finances, you can study the Return's second house, eighth house, and the condition of Venus. For example, if Solar Return Venus is opposite Solar Return Neptune, especially if Venus also rules the second house in the Solar Return, you might presume that either this coming year there is less emphasis on materialism, or that your income might be fluctuating and somewhat unstable.
8.

Get an overall feel for the Solar Return chart by examining hemispheric emphasis, whether or not it is scattered, and which houses (angular, succedent, and cadent) are emphasized. Also, note the qualities of the dominant signs of the year (cardinal, fixed, or mutable).
9.

You know the upcoming year will be a "big" one (in a transitional sense) when the Solar Return Sun forms a hard angle with the Solar Return Moon. This is also true when the Sun is conjunct a Solar Return angle.
10.

A consideration that I have found to be particularly significant is critical degrees. The most significant critical degrees in Solar Return interpretation are 29 degrees and 0 degrees of any sign. When found in the SR chart, there can be significant events surrounding the energy of the planet/point itself, and/or the house it rules in the chart. I do look at the classic critical degrees as well, but as a secondary consideration.
11.

For an insightful and rather thorough analysis of the Solar Return chart, look to Planets in Solar Returns: Yearly Cycles of Transformation & Growth by Mary Fortier Shea.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/interpretingsolarreturns.html

posted June 11, 2008 06:15 PM         

Here is the article on the SR that I forgot to post earlier: http://rudhyar.com/astroarticles/officialbirthday.shtml

posted June 11, 2008 06:35 PM         

Transiting Sun is Sun conjunct the Natal Sun on both the Solar Return and birthday any way.....if you allow orbs

As you know, not every aspect in our chart is exact. That's why we have orbs.

With transiting Sun conjunct my Sun, of course I am going to be very conscious of my self expression,ego as the transiting Sun conjuncting my Sun highlights that.

You can feel transiting Sun conjunct Sun even before your solar return and birthday....when Sun is 3 degrees from conjuncting your Sun....especially if your Sun is conjunct a heavenly body/point.

also...any transit can have an imprint on a person's consciousness....especially if it's in synchronicity with a certain event that occurs in the person's life.

I have never had a problem with Solar Return charts. They seem to work quite well. I even have 2 Solar Return report programs for my Kepler Astrology software. That's how much i believe Solar Returns are great for year long forecasts and insights in general. I even find that they work with asteroids too....even personal name asteroids. I was blown away that the names of my unity church pastors were prominent in my current solar return. I found that out after I made the decision to attend the church and found out their names. So it was incredible to find their names prominent in my solar return and make significant aspects in my natal chart too.

posted June 11, 2008 07:32 PM         

btw....my mom's birthday is June 13th.

She turns 54

posted June 11, 2008 08:04 PM         

I turn 31. 13th june, year 1977, time: 5:20 AM, City: Bucharest, Country: Romania, the present location is the same
I have an e-mail, i51232@yahoo.com but I don't mind if you want to write it here