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breakfast on pluto
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posted July 02, 2008 01:21 PM
 
could you please something about this aqua guy..he is 37 years old;love children so much but doctor say he is infertile..that is terrible..Planetary positionsplanet sign degree motion
Sun Aquarius 3°45'54 in house 10 direct
Moon Sagittarius 29°41'01 in house 8 direct
Mercury Capricorn 10°13'43 end of house 8 direct
Venus Sagittarius 16°57'16 in house 7 direct
Mars Sagittarius 0°51'04 in house 7 direct
Jupiter Sagittarius 1°37'57 in house 7 direct
Saturn Taurus 15°44'34 in house 12 stationary (D)
Uranus Libra 13°32'51 in house 6 retrograde
Neptune Sagittarius 2°37'19 in house 7 direct
Pluto Virgo 29°34'04 in house 5 retrograde
True Node Aquarius 23°43'33 in house 10 retrograde
Planets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house. House positions (Placidus)Ascendant Taurus 25°05'00
2nd House Gemini 20°43'13
3rd House Cancer 11°49'15
Imum Coeli Leo 3°37'43
5th House Virgo 0°41'34
6th House Libra 8°31'33
Descendant Scorpio 25°05'00
8th House Sagittarius 20°43'13
9th House Capricorn 11°49'15
Medium Coeli Aquarius 3°37'43
11th House Pisces 0°41'34
12th House Aries 8°31'33 Major aspectsSun Sextile Mars 2°55
Sun Sextile Jupiter 2°08
Sun Sextile Neptune 1°09
Sun Trine Pluto 4°12
Moon Square Pluto 0°07
Mercury Trine Saturn 5°31
Mercury Square Uranus 3°19
Venus Quincunx Saturn 1°13
Venus Sextile Uranus 3°24
Mars Conjunction Jupiter 0°47
Mars Conjunction Neptune 1°46
Mars Sextile Pluto 1°17
Mars Opposition Ascendant 5°46
Jupiter Conjunction Neptune 0°59
Jupiter Sextile Pluto 2°04
Saturn Quincunx Uranus 2°12
Neptune Sextile Pluto 3°03
Pluto Trine Ascendant 4°29
Numbers indicate orb (deviation from the exact aspect angle).
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blue moon
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posted July 02, 2008 03:27 PM
Life is sometimes cruel and unfair. I'll try and take a look at that data when I get time, if you put up a chart you might get more replies. You can crop the name, place and date of birth off before you post. Did the doctors say he has low sperm count or no sperm count? Infertile is quite a broad term. It doesn't always mean never, no chance, impossible. IP: Logged |
Belage
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From: Bay Area, California, USA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted July 02, 2008 04:59 PM
5th house rules children. He has natal Pluto in VIrgo retrograde there, squaring his natal moon in Sagg. Presently, transiting Pluto is making an exact square to his natal Pluto, and an exact conjunction to his natal moon. I would guess that his relationships with women are quite tense right now over this infertility issue. IP: Logged |
Geocosmic Valentine
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From: New York, NY
Registered: Sep 2007
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posted July 02, 2008 05:35 PM
My former accupuncturist has a large drawer crammed full of baby pictures from couples who's Western doctors told them that they were infertile. My accupuncturist is not the only one.Has he only seen one doctor? Did the doctor discuss diet with him? Most western doctors DON'T discuss diet? Did his doctor talk about solutions for reversal of the problem? There's a lot more to this than just accepting what the doctor says to him. Unless there was some kind of accident that injured him beyond repair physically, THERE ARE SOLUTIONS!! Whatever Pluto touches, it's energy is to destroy for rebuilding, reconstruction, regeneration. Yes, the Moon is women and children and reproduction issues. Now that he's learned about the destruction, he now has the opportunity for regeneration. Start looking for a second opinion from a western doctor WHILE LOOKING FOR SOME EASTERN MEDICINE SOLUTIONS AS WELL. Tell him not to give up. Geocosmic Valentine ------------------
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blue moon
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posted July 02, 2008 05:38 PM
Also I note that Venus is inconjunct to Saturn, a minor but tense aspect. Tense aspects between Saturn and Venus are tradtionally not helpful on a man's chart for fertility matters. I also worked out his Part of Children http://www.noendpress.com/pvachier/arabicparts/index.php
It's in Scorpio (presuming I did it right!), a traditionally fertile sign, at 9*. Less helpfully it makes an Opposition to Saturn in the 12th house, though at 6* orb there would be some on LL who would consider that to be getting a bit wide to take into large account.
I have scoured my own chart for these things in the past ~ I never thought I would have children but I did, it just didn't all go smoothly. IP: Logged |
blue moon
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posted July 02, 2008 05:45 PM
P.S I crossed with Mrs Valentine and agree with her on giving alternatives a try ~ if it isn't going to harm why not? If I recall correctly Zinc is important in male fertility. I think that's in seafood? I'm not sure. IP: Logged |
breakfast on pluto
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posted July 03, 2008 03:42 PM
Bluemoon he is so dark about that topic;he doesnt like talk this issue,he is so sad..but at the end he accept that..if mean truehe has so low sperm..Belage;how is that tense?there are 2 woman about his life;one of them his wife and another is me;i am the best friend of him.. Geocosmic Valentine;he went many doctors..i support him..he is great man;he is succesfull;handsome and like people and his wife so much..he loves children so much..i hope god will give one great child.. Thank you.. IP: Logged |
koiflower
Knowflake Posts: 1258
From: Australia
Registered: Jun 2008
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posted July 03, 2008 08:29 PM
Pluto in 5th house can bring challenges regarding children. ie, miscarriage, death of a child. I guess it could include infertility. That does not mean to say that the native is no good around children. Quite the opposite, Pluto in the 5th house can be quite a positive placement for being around children. I will try to find a link to some interesting reading about Pluto in the 5th House. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 13873
From: CA, USA
Registered: May 2005
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posted July 03, 2008 08:51 PM
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Tense aspects between Saturn and Venus are tradtionally not helpful on a man's chart for fertility matters.
Interesting. I have Saturn opposite Venus. IP: Logged |
Belage
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From: Bay Area, California, USA
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posted July 03, 2008 08:53 PM
Breakfast, in a man, the moon usually represents the female gender, the mother or the wife, something along this line. I would think that with transiting Pluto sitting right on his moon as we speak, Pluto symbolizing everything that is dark, intense, deadly, rebirth, obsession, and squaring his natal Pluto, things are not exactly rosy. His wife might be acting in a Plutonic manner right now. IP: Logged |
let ther b light
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From: bombay, india
Registered: Aug 2005
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posted July 04, 2008 01:11 PM
i recall reading in one of linda's books about this guy who was infertile. his wife fed him carrots in every possible way(raw in salad, cooked in various dishes) because she realised rabbits ate carrots constantly and produced babies by the dozen! so she had used her womanly instincts and kinda tried this and it worked! so maybe u cud suggest carrots to ur friend!"If I recall correctly Zinc is important in male fertility."
and if i recall correctly carrots contain zinc! 
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blue moon
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posted July 04, 2008 02:47 PM
Best get a nutritionist's guide, don't take my word for it. Saturn/Venus ~ take it with a pinch of salt. It's not a rule. My brother has the conjunction and has 3 kids, no problems. Conversely it is not present on the chart of a man I know who was not able to have biological children. Just like Pluto in the 5th. Don't anyone start getting scared. It might be there if you have miscarriages or lose a child, it might not be. I have and mine isn't. Neither is BML. Actually BML is exactly Conjunct the Moon, an aspect which is commonly described as bringing problems in childbirth but my second child was born in less than 15 minutes. p.s carrots are my least favourite vegetable. Vitamin A is reduced in pregnancy vitamins though so maybe this is good. Please double check this anyone reading, I am no expert. But a good idea to check with someone qualified anyway. IP: Logged |
breakfast on pluto
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posted July 06, 2008 02:04 PM
his wife taurus..i only know that..IP: Logged |
koiflower
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posted July 07, 2008 05:48 AM
Here's a website with a stash of info on Pluto, written from a variety of astrologers perceptions:
http://www.scribd.com/word/full/2204105?access_key=key-2dqjtrxlutpoof04verj Just keep scrolling till you find what you're looking for..... IP: Logged |
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