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VirgoPisces
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posted July 03, 2008 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoPisces     Edit/Delete Message
Well....not to sound too self-pitiful...but

Virgo sun
Pisces moon
Capricorn rising

Am I just destined for a hard life? I'm sure there are others in my shoes...
What do you think?

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23
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posted July 03, 2008 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
I think this is beyond saying I'm this and that. What about aspects, debilities etc? Simply having saturn as chart ruler ain't gonna do it, nor is a piscean moon or virgo sun. At the end of the day, life is what you want to make it and really not about signs.

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blue moon
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posted July 03, 2008 04:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
The problem as I see it is that although we have free will, so does everybody else. They might excercise it in a way that causes us harm, whether that is out of malice, disinterest or ruthlessness. There are a million examples, all of which would stretch the point by trying to blame the victim. It might just not be their fault.

Saying that, there are a large percentage of personal problems caused by poor judgement and plain old stupidity. Accepting responsibility can save a lot of needless time spent bemoaning our bad luck.

Some people do have harder lives than others, that is true enough. How that translates in astrological terms is hard to say. It could be in a testing generational aspect that ties in with personal planets. For example, an opposition between Saturn and Pluto forced into a Square with the Moon. Or maybe a Grand Cross. Yes, it is possible to do something with that energy, but it isn't going to be an easy road.

I don't think a Sun/Moon/Rising sign is really going to say much about the challenges of life. I agree with 23 on that.

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dj
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posted July 03, 2008 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dj     Edit/Delete Message
An easy life is not at all that great for the soul. It is not necessarily a happy life either. We learn our most important lessons through hardship which creates pressure to change (squares, oppositions, certain conjunctions). Passive Pisces Moons etc, Trines and sextiles, all can be slothful.
If life is hard, perhaps you need to make some changes? What would *make* your life easier?

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lalalinda
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posted July 03, 2008 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
Hello and Welcome to LL VirgoPisces

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writesomething
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posted July 03, 2008 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
Capricorn rising can indicate hard life but it can also point to the strength to overcome the hardships. Capricorns to me point to the hustlers of the world, they know how to get where they want to be, without anything in their pockets. The hard life pushes the Capricorn subject to achieve better. Like blue said, Free will and all.

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Glaucus
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posted July 03, 2008 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
Your Sun,Moon,Ascendant alone don't indicate a hard life. I would have to see numerous hard aspects or t-squares,grand crosses.....especially involving Saturn and the outerplanets


I have a history of hard life and my mother does too...I don't want to talk about it though.

what reflects that is

my t-square of Moon in Pisces in 6th square the opposition of Retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th and Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd. I also have Moon quincunx Pluto in Libra in 1st. All that reflects not only my challenging life but the challenging life of my mother too.

Saturn is also the handle of my bucket. It's the only planet in my Southern hemisphere.
It is conjunct my Midheaven. Saturn is also contraparallel my Mercury-Venus-Neptune parallel. It's even quincunx my Sun with only 13 minutes of arc.

My Lunar Nodal axis is square my Sun too!


I believe that I have a highly karmic life and that I am in the process of settling many karmic debts....especially with women(my Moon being the apex of the t-square)

My Moon is even quincunx the asteroid,Karma in Libra in 1st almost exact!

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Lara
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posted July 03, 2008 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I have had a shite life so far on the karmic front.

The more free will l have, the more l **** up!

Seriously, i'm considering letting a jury pick my next relationship for me

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