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Dragoon
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posted July 09, 2008 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dragoon     Edit/Delete Message
just plain and flat out the heaviest hearts of all signs. i don't know if any other sign comes remotely close because some of them, well actually most of them are known for being lighthearted and carefree such as Pisces or Virgos. it just comes as natural as the color green of the tree leaves to have black hair and wear black sitting in the darkest shadow on a black leather couch surrounded by walls painted black alone for a hundred years knowing all his friends and relatives can be reached by simply pressing of a button.

i always hear people say "don't take yourself too serious", "just have fun", "it's OK to goof off."

staring out of the widow alone.

there are all kinds of side effects like sincerity, honesty, stability, patience, sophistication etc. also perfectionism, pessimism and full of vengeance. probably the snobbiest of all, we must have our way and either that or we die.

so old, so deep and so sad it feels like an hundred years old man who have been through a lifetime of thunder and storm. and yet to some it's so old it appears to be childish. ah, the evaporation of worthiness.

we are naturally being hard on ourselves, along with others in someway. we walk alone and we cry about it. the more I admire them the more I resent them.

sometimes I just want a kitten. other times I want a million dollar car. so power hungry that just knowing the reality is devastating.

sometimes I feel that I'm a member of a elite tribe but constantly unable to meet our normal standards. however they kept me out of pity.

all the fanciness in the world, the riches, the fame, the powers, just add more pain and burden to the shoulder when I'm hanging on to the edge of the cliff.

so powerful and yet so powerless.

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koiflower
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posted July 09, 2008 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message

just a quick word before i go out - and I mean this is the nicest possible way, but I'm in a hurry.....

working with sick, highly disabled, needy or people who are dying will work wonders when one is feeling confused about the reality of life.

gotta fly, but will be back

love to you and everyone!!! and why not, we are all here together for this era of time.....

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blue moon
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posted July 09, 2008 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Acoustic God is your man. If he doesn't appear on this thread try searching through the archives for some of his contributions.

Do you feel brave enough to put your chart up? You can take out your date, place of birth and name by editing the info.

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AcousticGod
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posted July 09, 2008 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Cap Moon?

I don't think Pisces or Virgo Moons are particularly lighthearted. I mean we can be, but the suggestion is that they lack depth, and that doesn't sit too well with Virgo being the critical perfectionist, and Pisces absorbing the all the emotional undercurrents of their surroundings.

Being an 8th house Capricorn Sun with a squaring Virgo Moon, I've been where you're describing. I'm out of it now, though. Everything in life is ultimately transitional. Things are always changing. If you don't like where you are now, wait. Circumstances will change, and you might just muster the optimism to enjoy the opportunities that arrive. I predict that you absolutely will eventually.

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blue moon
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posted July 09, 2008 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Telepathy.

Marry me, do.

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AcousticGod
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posted July 09, 2008 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Why thank you, Blue Moon. I started writing before you posted. Oh, now I see we posted at the same time.

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AcousticGod
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posted July 09, 2008 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message

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blue moon
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posted July 09, 2008 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
You're lucky, some poor guy already has the onerous task.

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AcousticGod
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posted July 09, 2008 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Well!

I don't think I knew that before, but I am absolutely charmed by the suggestion! I'm lost for words now. Thanks.

I have a place in my heart for all Mercurial types.

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amowls
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posted July 09, 2008 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message
Water signs tend to be heavy. Air signs, not so much.

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koiflower
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posted July 09, 2008 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message

I hope you're feeling better Dragoon. Are you brave enough to post your chart, so the many amazing experts on LL can offer suggestions for you?

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wheelsofcheese
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posted July 09, 2008 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wheelsofcheese     Edit/Delete Message
What house is your Saturn in Dragoon? And your North Node?

I've read a few things lately about a feeling of "not belonging". Your post suggests a chart of oppositions.

I feel for you. If it's any help at all I felt like that for a long time, right up until I was 31. Wore black, felt like the whole world was not for me, that I didn't 'get' it. I agree with AG that circumstances can change. It's about finding your groove. It will come. You do have power and will. You will be the instrument of change in your life.

Going now, fearing sounding 'cosmic'.

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blue moon
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posted July 09, 2008 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
There you go, look what has re-surfaced on the front page:

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/016609.html

Wouldn't AG make a lovely stepfather? *sigh*

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Dragoon
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posted July 09, 2008 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dragoon     Edit/Delete Message
I thought I posted my chart before, guess I failed at that too. anyways here's a simple one:

and a messy one:

thanks to all who are trying to help. although I wasn't complaining or wondering about anything. I feel like I already know what I cared to know and I just wanted to write down my thoughts and feelings at that moment.

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Dragoon
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posted July 09, 2008 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dragoon     Edit/Delete Message
also, i think i have a bunch of stuff in the 12th house and tons of caps and all that, but besides that i don't know much about charts. what is north node? and anyone else find anything interesting in these charts?

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blue moon
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posted July 09, 2008 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Your writing was evocative. Cavalier disregard of spelling and punctuation rules can be irritating when trying to read posts so it is pleasant to see someone make an effort.

Very loaded 12th house you got there. Sun CNJ Uranus with Saturn thrown in, my father has this combo in Taurus. A bit eccentric, and certainly work dedicated.

With all that Capricorn there is no point trying to flutter around like Mary Poppins on E. If people don't like you as they are it is tough, really, isn't it?

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blue moon
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posted July 09, 2008 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Apparently

quote:
The North Node represents the valuable key towards understanding your soul mission.

http://www.creativechoices.com/article/north_node_pisces.htm


quote:

The North Node () and South Node ( ) of the Moon are points that are directly opposite each other. Together, they form the Nodal Axis. They are not planetary bodies; rather, they are mathematical points that take into account the relationship between the Sun, Moon, and Earth at the time of our birth. More specifically, the Moon's nodes are the points where the Moon's orbit intersect the plane of the ecliptic.


The Nodes of the Moon represent points of personal karmic imbalance. The North Node represents the kinds of experiences that we must work to develop in order to work with our karma, and to grow spiritually. The South Node represents those experiences and qualities that come naturally to us, that are over-developed, and that we tend to fall back on. The South Node can be a point of undoing unless we develop the North Node experiences and qualities. Thus, consciously working on these "life lessons" can bring us to increased happiness and fulfillment. If we over-emphasize and fall back on the qualities of our South Node, at the expense of developing our North Node, we may have a difficult time feeling personally successful.


http://www.cafeastrology.com/northnodesouthnode.html

North Node in the 2nd house is encouraging you to create something of lasting value according to skyviewzone.com ~ making the most of your talents and personal values. Being in Pisces this makes it hard to pin this down to something concrete, but it could be to do with compassion, altruism, or tapping into the "universal mind" as they put it here. It's tough to get plain English when we are dealing with Pisces and karma in one paragraph.

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Dragoon
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posted July 11, 2008 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dragoon     Edit/Delete Message
what are the effects of "Very loaded 12th house"? tell me a little bit about myself

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triplepisces
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posted July 11, 2008 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for triplepisces     Edit/Delete Message
Wow AcousticGod, you just also help all the weary souls out there. THank you dear

everything is ultimately ultimately transitional...

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AcousticGod
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posted July 11, 2008 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks. I'll try to get back to this tomorrow. It's getting really late at the moment.

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Plutonian Persona
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posted July 11, 2008 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plutonian Persona     Edit/Delete Message
Dragoon,

I loved reading your post on what your loneliness feels like, it was awe-inspiring!

As for your chart, well it just blew my mind to see all of that Capricorn, including a Cappy Saturn, in the 12th house.

To answer your question about having a loaded 12th house, one first has to look at the meaning of the 12th house. I like to call the 12th house "the land of the hidden" as it rules secrets, hidden enemies, and personality traits that we may unconsciously hide from others.

The 12th house is also very karmic as it is the place in the chart that deals with past lives, thus planets in the 12th house take on an especially karmic role. Having as many planets as you do in the 12th house, especially Saturn means that you are dealing with extremely heavy karma from past lives; loneliness and depression are very much part of the picture.

Every person that I have helped with heavy 12th house placements either works the night shift at a hospital, hospice, etc. All of them have said that helping others with their pain and suffering has helped relieve their own inner turmoil.

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AcousticGod
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posted July 11, 2008 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
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Every person that I have helped with heavy 12th house placements either works the night shift at a hospital, hospice, etc. All of them have said that helping others with their pain and suffering has helped relieve their own inner turmoil.

Good advice, and it coincides with the Pisces North Node interpretation. Please read this page, Dragoon:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/008001.html

Since your North Node is in the 2nd house, you can read this as well:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/007991.html

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