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jack sparrow
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posted July 13, 2008 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jack sparrow     Edit/Delete Message
I HAVE SUN IN VIRGO, MOON IN CAPRICORN, VENUS IN LEO, MARS IN VIRGO, MERCURY IN VIRGO.
SHE HAS SUN IN PISCES, MOON IN AQUARIUS, VENUS IN AQUARIUS, MARS IN SCORPIO AND MERCURY IN PISCES.

ANY HELP APPRECIATED.THANX

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koiflower
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posted July 13, 2008 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message

birth dates and times would give a clearer indication

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jack sparrow
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posted July 13, 2008 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jack sparrow     Edit/Delete Message
17.09.72 6.33am UK
01.03.84 birth time unknown, sorry, uk

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lalalinda
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posted July 13, 2008 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
Hello and Welcome to LL jack sparrow

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jack sparrow
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posted July 13, 2008 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jack sparrow     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks.

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Arnicka
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posted July 13, 2008 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Arnicka     Edit/Delete Message
can you give the cities for both?

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PaidVacation
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posted July 13, 2008 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PaidVacation     Edit/Delete Message
I think the age difference alone might make things harder.


Astrologically, it looks like you two have many harmonious and strong contacts. There were a couple that might be some challenges, but overall it looks compatible. I threw in some aspects to asteroids as well.



Her Ceres on your DC, opposing your Sun, Mercury and Mars.
Her Psyche in Capricorn trines your Sun, Mercury and Mars.
Her Juno in Taurus trines your Sun.

Her Sun is in your 6th house and makes no contacts to your chart.

Her Jupiter conjuncts your Moon.
Her Sun sextiles your Moon.
Her Moon is either in late Aquarius or early Pisces, so it may possibly (if in late Aquarius) conjunct your Eros and trine your Juno, or (if in early Pisces) square your Neptune.

Your Neptune squares her Mercury in Pisces.
Her Venus in Aquarius opposes your Venus.
Her Uranus in Sagittarius trines your Venus.

Your Saturn makes a wide trine to her Venus.
Your Uranus trines her Venus.

Your Jupiter doesn't make contacts to her planets.
Her Jupiter in Capricorn squares your Ceres and Psyche in Libra.

Your Saturn squares her Ceres in Pisces.

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jack sparrow
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posted July 14, 2008 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jack sparrow     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Paidvacation. Do you think you could possibly explain a little bit more the significance or problems you see in the chart. Thanks.

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PaidVacation
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posted July 17, 2008 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PaidVacation     Edit/Delete Message
I'll come back later and do this

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jack sparrow
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posted July 18, 2008 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jack sparrow     Edit/Delete Message
thanks.

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Glaucus
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posted July 18, 2008 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

Please don't let the age difference be a barrier. It doesn't have to be. As long as you're both over 18, you're fine. If both of you are mature and ready to be in a relationship as well as can handle differences then you will be okay.

I am saying this as somebody who loves a woman that's 11 years younger than me too. I am 36,and she's 25.

My parents were 13 years apart. My mother was 17 and my father was 30 when I was born. Of course, I am nobody to judge when it comes to age difference.


as long as you are okay with the age difference,then you will be fine.

I wish you the best of luck.


peace

Raymond

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jack sparrow
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posted July 19, 2008 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jack sparrow     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you for the kind words. Funny thing is this isn't a romantic relationship. It is a very personal relationship never the less. We were very close and I knew we both had a connection of some sort. Recently things have gone very bad and I don't know why.I believe in astrology and i know it can help understand your relationships better. This one I care about a lot and its not simple as walking away, well at least I want to understand if its me or her or both.

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jack sparrow
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posted July 25, 2008 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jack sparrow     Edit/Delete Message
HI PAIDVACATION. DO YOU THINK YOU BE ABLE TO GIVE ME THE REST OF THE EXPLAINATION ON THE READING SOON?
THANX.

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Aqua85
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posted July 26, 2008 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aqua85     Edit/Delete Message
if you have one persons birth time/place

but only the birth date for the other person... can you still calculate a synastry chart?

is it just unreliable to use 12:01pm as a generalization.

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PaidVacation
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posted July 28, 2008 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PaidVacation     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Jack,
I'm going to weave in house synastry and aspect synastry here. House synastry interprets how a person will naturally seek to interact with you based on which of your houses their planets fall in. E.G. Someone with planets in your 7th house sees you some sort of partner (romantic, business, friendship, etc), while a person with planets in your 5th house will see you as someone to have fun with in a one-on-one context (sex or just fun in general).

I see that her Sun, Mercury, and possibly Moon fall in your 6th house. This is the house of daily activities, such as work, chores, routine, and one's physical health. I'd guess she sees you as part of her daily life (in this case as a co-worker), but not in a romantic way. This doesn't preclude romance, but it doesn't encourage it either. It would help to know exactly where her Moon is, because there's a big difference between the Moon being in your 6th house vs being in your 5th house of affairs, fun, sex, and children. If it were in the 5th, I'd say that she interested in you on an emotional level.

With her Mercury in your 6th house, she may be more inclined to communicate with you on a practical, mundane level. Perhaps she sees you as someone who is knowledgeable about practical matters and capable of succeeding in the "real world." This view of you is probably reinforced by your Virgo Sun, Virgo Mercury, and Virgo AC. Further, her Sun is in Pisces, though it's out of orb for an opposition to your Virgo planets. Still, that would also add to her seeing you as uber-Virgo.

Next, I see that her Ceres (think of it as more of the guiding/caring side of the Moon and less the emotional, sometimes whiny side of the Moon) is in Pisces, conjunct your DC, and opposing your Virgo planets. With this placement, I'd say she's motivated to care for others on a spiritual level. Since it's conjoining your DC, she may want to form a relationship with you based on this desire. Your relationship could be an enlightening experience.

Her Psyche in Capricorn falls in your 4th house of home and family, and trines your Virgo planets. Psyche is the planet of psychic attunement and sensitivity to others, so this is a good sign that you two are naturally able to share an empathetic bond with each other. She is probably easily able to understand the motivations and needs of your Virgo planets (Sun, Mercury, Mars).

Another asteroid of note that makes a favorable contact is her Juno in Taurus in your 9th house, which trines your Sun. Juno indicates what one wants out of a marriage partner, and indicates how one becomes jealous of that relationship. I'd guess she really needs a partner that is solid, stable, responsible, though perhaps a bit stubborn (as seen by Taurus). Having her Juno fall in your 9th house indicates that she would see your marital relationship as an adventurous experience, or at least horizon broadening one. This indicates a marriage based on engaging each other intellectually and philosophically.

Now let's take a look at aspects to your Moon. I see her Jupiter conjuncts your Moon in your 4th house. This indicates that she will be generous with you on an emotional level. Your emotional and security needs will be fulfilled by this woman. The fact that this occurs in your 4th house is a good indicator that she will bring abundance, joy, and good luck in your home life. Her Sun is also sextile your Moon, adding to this benefic theme.

Next, I'll look to your Venus. Her own Venus in Aquarius opposes your Venus in Leo, and falls in your 5th house. There is considerable attraction and interest with these placements. Having opposing Venuses can help you balance each other out, but it can also frustrate at times. With oppositions, two energies are seeking the same thing, but with very different methods. The solution is to have respect for the differences and work compromise so you can work together on reaching your mutual goal. Venus is at its least emotionally oriented in Aquarius and seeks to do what's best for the group it feels it belongs to - this may be as large as the whole of humanity, or perhaps limited to ones friends or people whoever shares similar opinions. But just like Venus in Leo, Venus in Aquarius is seeking stability and safety for itself, though in the roundabout way of seeking this for everyone it sees in its own group. Venus in Leo is much warmer in the way it expresses itself. Venus in Leo is ultimately seeking security that for itself, though it does this by getting validation through others. Venus in Leo is naturally generous, charming, and fun, but it often displays these qualities to get others to confirm that Venus is indeed wonderful. Though it doesn't seem like it, Venus in Aquarius is also seeking the approval of others. Venus in Aquarius, however, tries to be the most unique, knowledgeable, interesting self it can be and is good at hiding its disappointment with others rebuff its beliefs and ideas.

This woman's Uranus in Sagittarius trines your Venus in Leo, which would only impact you, as impacts to our outer planets don't affect us on a personal level. With her Uranus trining your Venus, you two are likely to be very good friends, and she would be someone who expands your horizons and introduces you to new ideas and ways of seeing the world.

Further, your Uranus in Libra trines her Venus, so you would also seem to be a good friend to her, and someone exciting to explore new things with.

I also notice your Saturn trines her Venus. This indicates that you stabilize and guide her, while she softens your hard edges and provides much needed affection (esp with all the cold Earth energy I see in your chart).

Your Saturn also squares her Ceres, which may indicate that sometimes your sets of rules and what you consider appropriate (Saturn) are sometimes too rigid and cold for her nurturing side (Ceres). In terms of sign energy, Saturn in Gemini can fall into the trap of swinging back and forth between opposing standards and beliefs. The dual nature of Gemini can lead to Saturn making snap judgments and holding double standards. While her Ceres in Pisces may seem too vague and general to pin down, making her Ceres nurturing and guiding seem baseless and arbitrary as well. Again, the solution to conflicts based on hard aspects is to give each other respect and room to do each other's own thing.

In terms of your own asteroids, I see that your Ceres and Psyche in Libra square her Jupiter in Capricorn. Jupiter in Capricorn is in the sign of its Fall, meaning Jupiter is in a sign that doesn't suit its energy at all. Planets in Fall are in completely unfamiliar territory, and often express their energy inappropriately. In Capricorn, bountiful and expansive Jupiter struggles with issues of lack, thinking it never has enough. Jupiter tries to meet this lack by filling its spiritual void "through structuring, organizing, conquering, and taking responsibility for the physical world, attempting to meet the physical needs not only of itself, but also of others" (from Kevin Burk's "Understanding the Birth Chart"). In contrast, your Ceres and Psyche (both planets of sensitivity and empathy) are working with Libran energy, which is more abstract and social. These planets seek to connect on such intangible levels, providing friendship and intellectual companionship, rather than tangible signs of caring. However, you have more than enough Earth in your chart to meet her on her Jupiter in Capricorn level, so I wouldn't worry about any differences here.

Finally I see that your Neptune in Sag squares her Mercury in Pisces. She may sometimes be suspicious of your motivations and see you as clouding her mind (more than her Mercury in Pisces does that is). Neptune is the planet that dissolves boundaries, shows you your dreams and fantasies, but doesn't necessarily deliver them in reality. So, you may seem to promise a lot to her, but (unbeknownst to you) fail to deliver her dreams. Since Neptune is an outer planet, you won't be feeing this hard aspect through that planet. You do have planets in Gemini and Virgo, which square Pisces energy, though you don't have any exact square aspects besides the Neptune one. However, I think that even having so many whole sign squares will create some sort of friction and discomfort. Mercury is in Detriment and Fall in Pisces, which means Mercury is both lost and tends to express itself inappropriately. Here's a great passage from that Burk book I referenced on Mercury in Pisces:

Pisces is the least focused, least discriminating energy. In many ways, it is the antithesis of Mercury. Like Sagittarius, the other sign ruled by Jupiter, Pisces is focused on the big picture; Pisces is the energy that motivates us to return to the source, to remember that all separation is illusion, that we are truly one with everything in the universe. In Pisces, Mercury is operating both on the mental/emotional plane and on the physical plane, and Mercury’s frustration in Pisces will manifest on both these levels. Mercury’s primary function is to communicate, and the most important aspect of communication is how we describe the world to ourselves. Individuals with Mercury in Pisces have a very different understanding of the universe form most other people. Other people notice differences between things, but people with Mercury in Pisces see the fundamental connections between everything. Communicating this to individuals who don’t have Mercury in Pisces, however, is a very big challenge – one that basically requires that these individuals learn how to see the world from an entirely different perspective, and then try to translate between the two. When Mercury has dignity by term in Pisces, it has more focus and perhaps an easier time bridging the gap between the different experiences of reality; but when Mercury is peregrine in Pisces, the journey can be long and winding. Pisces energy is extremely intuitive, something that Mercury doesn’t particularly trust. Mercury wants to reason, think, and analyze, not to operate based on instinct and spiritual guidance; but in order for Mercury in Pisces to discover its true path, it must learn to listen to and follow its intuition.

So, you may tend to misunderstand each other, though not as much as you would if you had a hard aspect supporting the whole sign opposition between your Mercuries. It would seem that you two have very different ways of seeing, understanding, and communicating with the world, but you could also use this as an opportunity to expand those horizons I mentioned, or at least appreciate a fresh outlook on things.

There weren't any aspects with her Mars or Saturn, both of which fall in your 3rd house of day to day communication and travel. She may see you as someone to take action with in the realm of daily interaction and communication. She'll probably enjoy casual conversation with you.

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jack sparrow
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posted July 29, 2008 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jack sparrow     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you. Very informative. I'm bit puzzled with her moon being in Aquarius. I've looked at moon tables in various astrology books including one by Linda Goodman, and for her birth date its listed as Moon in Pisces, 1st march 1984,. Would these books be correct?

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PaidVacation
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posted July 29, 2008 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PaidVacation     Edit/Delete Message
It depends on the time of day. If she was born before 5:30pm (London time) on March 1st, then she has an Aquarius Moon. If she was born at 5:30pm or later, then she has a Pisces Moon.

You see, the planets don't neatly change signs at midnight, so you have to look up the exact sign changes online. Try astro.com.

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