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Topic: frozen love...saturn/venus
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writesomething
Knowflake Posts: 2376
From: meet me in montauk
Registered: May 2006
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posted July 15, 2008 11:42 PM
 
does venus square/opposite saturn really make someone emotionally cold and distant even if they love you? when you love someone, especially someone you've known for awhile, how do you go about it? do you analyze a lot? is it easy to let someone you love go? do you associate pain with love?IP: Logged |
N_De
Knowflake Posts: 11
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Registered: Jul 2008
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posted July 16, 2008 01:17 AM
Does venus conjunct sat cause the same sort of behavior IP: Logged |
Seeing Stars 7.21
Knowflake Posts: 1301
From: New York
Registered: Dec 2006
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posted July 16, 2008 01:49 AM
Sort of true.. except the letting the person go part. but the other stuff yeah.IP: Logged |
amowls
Knowflake Posts: 866
From: Richmond, VA USA
Registered: Dec 2007
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posted July 16, 2008 09:45 AM
Venus square Saturn people are shy. Or at least I am. I rarely ever make the first move. And I do over analyze every situation involving the object of my affection.I do believe that love involves some sort of sacrifice, but that might be because my Venus is in Pisces. IP: Logged |
Belage
Knowflake Posts: 699
From: Bay Area, California, USA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted July 16, 2008 12:27 PM
Venus square/opposite Saturn is going to be different from Venus conjunct Saturn. The conjunction will tend to make the native very materialistic, in the sense that he or she does not get blinded by feelings, but can be very mindful of a mate's financial potential and what he has to offer. In some cases, there is a real inability to express feelings, or the feeling expressed will not be real, but rather calculated to produce the desired effect. The square and opposition tend to produce very shy and insecure individuals in love matters, who believe that they have to work hard to get love and are never quite sure that they are loved. They tend to attract partners that are unloving or very hard on them. In some cases, it is very difficult to form relationships. IP: Logged |
writesomething
Knowflake Posts: 2376
From: meet me in montauk
Registered: May 2006
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posted July 16, 2008 02:48 PM
Belage, thank you for the description. It sounds about right. Do you happen to have it in your chart or have experience with it in relationships with others?IP: Logged |
Lara
Knowflake Posts: 3274
From: London
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted July 16, 2008 03:08 PM
I have Venus conjunct Saturn and I'm great at expressing my feelings and have only dated poor men LOL
I'm not materialistic at all - I just want a dishwasher and a big bath  IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 13873
From: CA, USA
Registered: May 2005
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posted July 16, 2008 04:57 PM
I have the opposition.I would say that I'm physically very warm (feminine Sun, Moon, Mars). I do have trouble verbally expressing myself to a degree. I'm more likely to try to show you that I love you. If things seem uncertain in the relationship, then I will hold back from being totally demonstrative about my affection. Regarding Belage's words, I have been called shy in general before (which I generally tend to discount, because I think that to be shy is to have a hesitance towards talking. I'm not afraid to talk, I just don't feel the need to talk unnecessarily [Saturn opp Mercury]). I'm not insecure in action associated with love. I have no trouble initiating. If it's more about not being sure if I'm loved, that may be true to some extent. It's not difficult for me to form relationships, but they are stressful (as I imagine they are for everyone). I also have Neptune conjunct Venus in the 7th, which only clouds things further. IP: Logged |
Belage
Knowflake Posts: 699
From: Bay Area, California, USA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted July 16, 2008 07:53 PM
In my chart, Venus sextile Saturn by a 11 degree orb. Not strong enough to be felt. Venus doesn't really like to be paired with Saturn. It stifles her. Venus is fun loving, while Saturn is not, and Saturn is not known as the most feeling and loving planet in the zodiac. It does not mean that the two can't work together, there are cases where Saturn can provide stability and grounding to Venus as in trines or sextiles, and even some conjunctions. In these cases, Venus will tend to make the native calculating and prone to look out for number 1, which is not necessarily a bad thing. These natives rarely suffer from a case of "love is blind." The stressful aspects of squares and oppositions are much harder to deal with. IP: Logged |
Lara
Knowflake Posts: 3274
From: London
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted July 16, 2008 08:26 PM
how weird.
I find that even with Venus/Saturn conjunct I am very fun loving and it doesn't seem to stifle me! LolNot only that, for me I'm totally blind when it comes to love. Not only do I not see it coming untill it throws me to the floor but I am blind to knowing which man is good and which is a rat! *sigh* IP: Logged |
Glaucus
Knowflake Posts: 2761
From: Sacramento,California,USA
Registered: Jul 2006
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posted July 16, 2008 10:14 PM
I have Venus contraparallel Saturn,and I can relate to Venus oppose Saturn------------------
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Belage
Knowflake Posts: 699
From: Bay Area, California, USA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted July 17, 2008 01:05 AM
Um, Lara, what you describe is not typical of the interplay between Venus and Saturn. Is your conjunction a close one or a wide one, and are there any other planets like Neptune for instance, affecting that conjunction? Is your conjunction in fun loving Gemini or in very loving Pisces?IP: Logged |
venusmars
Knowflake Posts: 287
From:
Registered: May 2008
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posted July 17, 2008 10:30 AM
Hi all..
I have saturn square venus.Let me show you the dialogue I always hear when I am in a relationship.hope you have fun,I dont but anyway..venus in libra:hey I met that guy today he is soo nice and handsome sooo cool.I bet he is the one saturn in cancer:Are you sure he liked you too??? venus  f course why not??everyone likes me..plus he invited me to diner tonight..and I bought a nice dress for this date saturn:don't go too far o.k?don't be an easy girl you remember the last thing happened?I wish you learned some lessons.. venus:I am telling you he may be the one,so please stop it I want to look good tonight and if you stress me like this I definetely won't.. saturn:if he really likes you it doesn't matter.. venus:aaah stop it..how can you know?? 2 weeks later.. saturn:how is your relationship going?Is he still the one??(laughing sarcastically) venus: super...I told you yes he is..And the chemistry is sooo good. saturn:you act and let things happen so fast. it is not good. venus:I don't wanna hear these and you know sun mars and uranus they all think I am right..(all conjunct) saturn:I don't approve them either you know
(all squared by saturn) venus:I hate youuu.we all hate you.. 2 months later.. venus:I met this guy today he is sooo nice and good looking and blah blah blah.. observed and written by: scorpio mercury with jupiter trine and uranus conjunction.. IP: Logged |
Lara
Knowflake Posts: 3274
From: London
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted July 17, 2008 10:57 AM
Hi Belage,venus 21' aries
saturn 18' aries
NN 18' aries
moon 24' aries other aspects to venus/saturn
PF trine saturn 0'
uranus/pluto quincunx venus 1'
neptune quincunx venus 4'
AC trine venus 7'
jupiter trine venus 4' does that explain my non-typical venus/saturn conjunct? i'm confused as to how venus/saturn even makes me feel, there are so many influences!
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Belage
Knowflake Posts: 699
From: Bay Area, California, USA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted July 17, 2008 12:36 PM
In your case, Lara, you have so many other aspects to Venus besides the Saturn conjunction. You have moon conjunct Venus, which makes you very congenial. You also have Neptune and Jupiter nicely aspecting Venus, these 2 planets will counteract the wet blanket energy of Saturn. Plus you also have Uranus and Pluto aspecting your Venus, and these planets are not Saturnian at all, they give your love nature unpredictability and intensity. So there!! IP: Logged |
Deliverance
Knowflake Posts: 440
From: Bolloxville, Nutbush
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted July 26, 2008 05:50 PM
I have the opposition - I have compassion for people, most of my jobs have involved helping people. I've also volunteered my time to suicide helplines. I'm not cold, just very down to earth when it comes to relationships. I think romance is buls*it that weakens & distracts people from their paths. Ive never been in love & dont want to be in love. I would rather watch TV. IP: Logged |
blue moon
Moderator Posts: 4700
From: U.K
Registered: Dec 2007
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posted July 26, 2008 07:07 PM
My brother has the conjunction. In Taurus. All around sensible and practical person, but I wouldn't say he was particularly materialistic. He is married with three kids, so not having too many problems expressing his love. Not a gusher, but this is England, so being a bit repressed is perfectly O.K, more likely to be cause for praise than concern. IP: Logged |
ghanima81
Moderator Posts: 1785
From: MAINE! :)
Registered: Aug 2003
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posted July 26, 2008 08:58 PM
I have the square... I suck at expressing myself in relationships. I end up a meek and dominated person when the one I am involved with catches onto my insecurity and exploits it. And my stupid moon can't be alone... *sigh*IP: Logged |
Aqua85
Knowflake Posts: 12
From:
Registered: Jul 2008
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posted July 26, 2008 09:07 PM
what if theres a Venus square Saturn in a synastry chart... is the same deal?IP: Logged |
Belage
Knowflake Posts: 699
From: Bay Area, California, USA
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted July 26, 2008 10:48 PM
Aqua85, personally, I wouldn't want to be with someone whose Saturn squares my Venus in Synastry. I really think the Saturn person is bound to break the Venus person's heart. But I am sure some folks can handle it. IP: Logged |
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