posted July 21, 2008 03:54 AM         

I was just wondering if such difficult obstacles to a relationship full of opposition is normal. I have been playing this same dance with the man who I want to be with for 2 years now and would have usually by this time, have told him to jump off a bridge or pushed him already, but i just can't seem to give up! Is it just my scorpio persistance/sadism or is there really something fated here?
I just don't know what to do anymore. Does someone have any insights into why I'm OBSESSED??!???
Please help, I think im going loony.

Here's our charts:
ME
Sun Scorpio 4.58
Moon Pisces 16.50
Mercury Libra 21.18
Venus Scorpio 3.21
Mars Sagittarius 27.36
Jupiter Scorpio 17.24
Saturn Libra 26.22
Uranus Sagittarius 3.07
Neptune Sagittarius 25.02
Pluto Libra 27.12
Lilith Capricorn 14.26
Asc node Cancer 5.58

HIM
Sun Gemini 29.44
Moon Taurus 26.38
Mercury Cancer 22.03
Venus Gemini 12.08
Mars Taurus 26.53
Jupiter Leo 8.57
Saturn Virgo 8.38
Uranus Scorpio 17.25 R
Neptune Sagittarius 18.50 R
Pluto Libra 16.27 R
Lilith Leo 27.58
Asc node Virgo

posted July 21, 2008 12:40 PM         

and composite:
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=8njfileDtDqaY-u1216279481&lang=e&gm=a1&nhor=1&nho2=2&btyp=671&mth=gw&sday=21&smon=7&syr=2008&hsy=-1&zod=&orbp=&rs=0&ast=

posted July 22, 2008 09:45 PM         

There are two good reasons for not posting the link to your astro.com charts:
1. they expire after 24 hours or so, and
2. anyone could get into your astro.com account and mess up your personal charts and info (it has happened here before).

posted July 23, 2008 12:08 PM         

AC and venus etc in 5th houses. Nothing of any significance in either's 7th house.

posted July 23, 2008 02:38 PM         

Here is a quote from a report from there: "47 Trine Sun - Pluto

Positive aspect: It's love-at-first-sight, the great passion: they will be drawn to each other like two magnets, they will always have to see and touch each other. Very good sexual understanding, typically very passionate. It must be said that this type of relationship may not last forever, it may not develop into a quiet and tender love. If they part, it is close to impossible to stay friends because of the constant reminder of the passion that once existed. It's all or nothing with them. If they part, one will suffer when the passion of the other dies, it will be a very difficult time to live through. However, if they stay together, there is strength to gain from each other."

I also see you guys have a Sun-Saturn double whammy where your Sun sextiles his Saturn 3˚ and his Sun trines your Saturn 3˚. I guess that means you restrict his ego/personality meaning you two would try to "tell" each other how each should be/act??? (I'm taking a very loose guess on that one.

You guys Mercuries are squared 0˚ so that is gonna be rough between you two in the communication department; moreso rougher for him since he is a Gem and is ruled by Mercury, the planet that rules communication and thought process. Your ruler Pluto also squares his ruler Mercury by 5˚.

His Moon square's your Vertex 0˚ so this is an important relationship to you. You might say its fated. His Venus also semisquares your Pluto 0˚, so I guess that would be another reason you are obsessed.

I don't know what to say about you guys Moon-Neptune double whammy (Your Moon squares his Neptune 1˚ applying and his Moon quincunx your Neptune 0˚ separating). Maybe someone else can shed some light on what that means.

The most important factor is, astrology aside, how do you guys feel about each other? Is there mutual attraction and like? What are the problems you guys are running into?

PS: I am a NEWB so my interps are based on my limited knowledge about the aspects I listed. Others may and probably will offer alternate interpretations of the same.

EDIT: One thing I want to add is my first love (whom I still love for 20 years now even though we are not together) is a Scorpio and I am a Gem. Follow your heart is all the advice I can give.

posted July 23, 2008 03:28 PM         

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I was just wondering if such difficult obstacles to a relationship full of opposition is normal. I have been playing this same dance with the man who I want to be with for 2 years now

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You are trying to get with someone and have been for 2 years. That correct?
If so, what is the problem?

If you are in a relationship with him and want to take it the next stage, or you are just trying to get with him, you just say what you feel and be direct. If he says no, say bye bye.

This is a very strange query.

Why are you obsessed?
1. I guess that seems an ok interpretation for a Scorpio Sun.
2. The composite AC is Scorpio, which indicates what the relationship is about. Obsession is one and control is the other attribute.

posted July 24, 2008 12:47 AM         

AC and venus etc in 5th houses. Nothing of any significance in either's 7th house.

I'd say it was more for fun and short-lived but hey, i'm no professional

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Lara, I
was just curious how you determined that we had no venus-mars aspects...
Doesn't his venus oppose my mars and my venus oppose his mars?

Kick It,
I totally agree with you that this is a strange inquiry... There is definate attraction on both our parts, but I think it comes down to neither one of us wanting to open up for some reason. Neither one of us wants to be honest to the other because of fears of being vulnerable and crushed. Every time we make a leap forward, it seems we take 10 leaps back...yet every time I get closer and closer...
It's so strange!
I think he may have some women issues...does anyone see that in his chart?
Also, his taurus moon conjunct his mars is soooo stubborn! You just can't get through.
I feel like he's always testing my loyalty to him.
Yet, somehow in all of this my gut instinct tells me to keep with it and to be patient with this man...WHy?!?

posted July 24, 2008 06:21 AM         

You seem to communicate well, but yet you say you cant communicate with someone you really want...why is that?

Go up and ask him straight. If you get with him, great. If not, you saved another few years of being obsessed and going loony.