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Topic: is an olive complexion associated with a particular rising sign please?
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Lara unregistered
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posted July 29, 2008 03:23 PM
HiI'm trying to work out the ASC for a friend of mine. He has aries sun/aries moon and for a Londoner he has an olive complexion, dark hair and brown eyes (mediterranean look to him). This must have something to do with the ASC, no? I'm sure l read it somewhere but now can't remember. He also has a high forehead, big ears (lol), a pointy chin that slopes and his face is quite narrow and his mouth taut haha. I was thinking aries ASC but not sure the olive complexion fits! Scorpio? Thanks IP: Logged |
blue moon Knowflake Posts: 1344 From: U.K Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 29, 2008 03:30 PM
I have Scorpio Rising and have translucent Celtic skin. My kids (Cancer and Capricorn Rising) are dark like their dad (Virgo Rising) and Grandad (Sag Rising) and half-sister (Sag Rising). "You've had that baby in the sun" ~ old ladies would admonish when I lived by the seaside. IP: Logged |
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posted July 29, 2008 03:32 PM
When you're trying to figure it out, remember that planets conjunct the Ascendant & 1st house planets also have a great influence on the appearance IP: Logged |
Lara unregistered
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posted July 29, 2008 03:37 PM
Very true nightjar... so if scorpio is associated with an olive complexion then l would l look for neptune on ASC? IP: Logged |
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posted July 29, 2008 03:37 PM
interesting blue moon... so maybe it's not a given then for a particular ASC. damn! lolIP: Logged |
amowls Newflake Posts: 4 From: Falls Church, VA, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 29, 2008 03:54 PM
You have to go with the over all feel of the face/body, not pick out one thing and try to guess based on that.IP: Logged |
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posted July 29, 2008 04:09 PM
Sounds like a fishy with big ears. Like an elephant - Pisces is large animals.IP: Logged |
Lara unregistered
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posted July 29, 2008 04:15 PM
ok... I'm going to put up a pic quickly so please stick around guys cos I don't have his permission so don't wanna keep it up! Brb IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 29, 2008 04:22 PM
Does he have any Mediterranean ancestry in him? My grandfather had Scorpio Ascendant,and he had olive complexion. He was Portuguese, and olive complexion is common.
My stepgrandmother has Scorpio Ascendant,and she has dark tan complexion. She's Puerto Rican,Mexican. those complexions are common in Hispanics. She has Scorpio Ascendant. My maternal aunt(my mom's paternal half sister)has a dark tan/light brown complexion. I have a dark tan/light brown complexion being the son of a white woman and black man. I have Virgo Ascendant. I am not sure how much influence Astrology has on skin color.
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posted July 29, 2008 04:23 PM
Hi Glaucus,Good point but no he doesn't... so interesting though about your family!
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venusmars Knowflake Posts: 170 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 29, 2008 04:31 PM
hi Laranearly all people I know who have mercury conjunct their ascendant are dark people with brown eyes and olive complexion. That's an observation of course maybe it is just a coincidence.. which sign is his mercury in?maybe it is his rising sign IP: Logged |
Lara unregistered
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posted July 29, 2008 04:34 PM
Hey venusmars!Interesting... his mercury is 24' aries. I suppose he does have a mercurial look about him. He looks quite airy in his aura, doesn't he. He has ZERO patience so maybe he is triple aries!
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posted July 29, 2008 04:38 PM
amowls,he is slight in build and about 6'. He's very arian lol I totally get what you mean about looking at the whole persona though, thanks IP: Logged |
venusmars Knowflake Posts: 170 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 29, 2008 04:42 PM
He has a mercurial look I think.So mercury rising puts his sun and moon in the 12th house?Does it fit?IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 5819 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 29, 2008 04:45 PM
interesting, Venus Marsmy mom's other paternal half sister has Mercury conjunct Ascendant....actually her Mercury is Rising in her chart(in 12th house conjunct Ascendant). Both her Mercury and Ascendant are in Sagittarius. She has dark tan/light brown skin too....same complexion as my other aunt. I also wonder if it's possible there is some Mediterranean background in him going way back in history.
another thing is that the ancient Romans were thought to be oliveskinned people,and they did occupy England. They ruled England until the Angles took over. It's possible that some English have olive complexion from having Roman ancestry. Heck...a lot of whites here in USA are actually part black. Studies show that at least 1/4 of White Americans actually have some Black ancestry. Why only 2.4 percent(me included) of the population identified as mixed ethnicity for 2000 US Census is something that I can't answer. ------------------ Stop The Misdiagnosing Of Neurodivergents http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/stop-the-misdiagnosing-of-neurodivergents
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posted July 29, 2008 04:50 PM
yeah, sun/moon in 12th, uranus in 7th, mars in 4th and saturn in 5th.I have no idea if it fits i'm afraid as l wouldn't know what to look for... he is involved in property so that should show up somewhere too. MC is capricorn! ha! IC is cancer NN in 6th. Interesting.. could fit. IP: Logged |
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posted July 29, 2008 04:53 PM
Here's what cafe astrology say:Mercury conjunct the Ascendant Those with Mercury conjunct the Ascendant come across as youthful, active, and busy. They are usually ready to chat, although if Mercury is in the twelfth house they may need some encouragement at first. These natives can be quite fidgety and restless, and often move quickly. Their faces are quite expressive and there is a twinkle in the eye. Their expressiveness is not as warm as that of Moon-Ascendant people. Instead, it has a distinctly mischievous quality. These are "busy bees" who are insatiably curious. They love to relate personal stories. Their charm is of a youthful, mischievous, and lively kind. They thrive on change, social contact, and communication. Some are noticeably nervous. Alternate, short interpretation: *You are mentally active and restless and you like to talk, communicate, and exchange ideas with others. You express yourself well, and are suited to activities that involve presenting ideas to other people, such as teaching, sales, etc. Some Famous People with Mercury conjunct the Ascendant: Loni Anderson (Mercury in Virgo conjunct the Ascendant from the first house); Ed Asner (Mercury in Scorpio conjunct the Ascendant from the first house); Alexander Graham Bell (Mercury in Pisces conjunct the Ascendant from the twelfth house); Johanne Brahms (Mercury in Aries conjunct the Ascendant from the first house, also conjunct Jupiter); Jamie Lee Curtis (Mercury in Sagittarius conjunct the Ascendant from the twelfth house); T.S. Eliot (Mercury in Libra conjunct the Ascendant from the first house); Alex Haley (Mercury in Leo conjunct the Ascendant from the first house); Matt LeBlanc (Mercury in Cancer conjunct the Ascendant from the twelfth house); Paul Newman (Mercury in Capricorn conjunct the Ascendant from the first house - also conjunct Venus); John Ritter (Mercury in Libra conjunct the Ascendant from the first house); Ted Turner (Mercury in Sagittarius conjunct the Ascendant from the first house). IP: Logged |
venusmars Knowflake Posts: 170 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 29, 2008 04:55 PM
Hi Glaucus I also observed that they are tall and they have beautiful eyes generally. Lara, glad if I help.. IP: Logged |
Lara unregistered
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posted July 29, 2008 04:55 PM
venus in taurus mars in cancerI guess this makes so a slight roundness in his cheekbones? He doesn't really have the penetrating look of a scorpio does he. IP: Logged |
amowls Newflake Posts: 4 From: Falls Church, VA, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 29, 2008 04:59 PM
I agree with all the Mercury statements (my first thought was Gem rising).Idk though, I'm usually terrible at this IP: Logged |
Lara unregistered
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posted July 29, 2008 05:08 PM
might be gemini rising though, no amowls?He is quite a passionate and spontaneous guy... hmmm You aren't terrible at this! No more than l am anyway IP: Logged |
SilverFairy Knowflake Posts: 47 From: Delaware Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 29, 2008 05:08 PM
I didn't read all the replies... but I have a Scorpio rising and I have an Olive complexion. My husband a Virgo rising is pale as pale can be. My brothers and I are half Dominican and Irish. Some are darker then others... One is Taurus ASC, Capricorn ASC, Pisces Asc. I'm one of the lighter of the children. My sister who has a different father is extremely pale white and she's also a Scorpio rising. IP: Logged |
Plutonian Persona Knowflake Posts: 131 From: Denver, CO, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 29, 2008 05:12 PM
I have Pluto and the Sun conjunct the ascendant in Libra and I'm white as white can be and sunburn really easily too.IP: Logged |
blue moon Knowflake Posts: 1344 From: U.K Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 29, 2008 05:58 PM
quote: Why only 2.4 percent(me included) of the population identified as mixed ethnicity for 2000 US Census is something that I can't answer
Maybe no-one could, the reasons could be so various. But with my own family as as example, one of those reasons could be that you don't know ~ if you have a couple of (great)grandfathers unnamed, an unmarried mother in a port, etc. IP: Logged |
koiflower Knowflake Posts: 1984 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 29, 2008 06:52 PM
he looks like an old friend of mine - same shaped eyes...My friend: Sun Gem Moon Sag Merc Tau Venu Can Mar Tau Asc - don't know, sorry My friend's paternal background was Spanish. Also, not that I like to use a person's facial 'look' to guess where they may be from, but he looks similar to groups of people I know from Croatia.
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