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darkdreamer
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posted July 30, 2008 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
If I want to do my Solar return, do I have to choose my LAST birthday or the NEXT one.

For ex. I want to look at my Solar for 2008, but if I do it at astro.com, they choose the 18th december 2008, but wouldn`t it make more sense to look at the december 2007 to see what this year brings?

DD

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amowls
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posted July 30, 2008 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message
if you want to look at 2008, you would do december 2007

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amowls
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posted July 30, 2008 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message
wait when is your birthday?

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darkdreamer
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posted July 30, 2008 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
18th december.

Thank you.


So after a short check, I have the solar ASC conjunct my natal ASC within 2°;
A stellium of Sun, Mercury, Jupiter and Pluto in Sagittarius in 1st house within 3°.

Moon in Aries conjunct the Solar IC by 1°.
Retograde Mars in Cancer in 7th house.
Oops, looks like a mutual reception of Moon and Mars.
Moon in Aries in 4th house squares Mars in Cancer in 7th house.
(BTW does it mean anything that this Solar Mars is exactly opposite my natal Venus?).


Uranus in Pisces in 3rd house exactly trine Venus in Scorpio in 11th house.

The ruler of the Solar ASC is conjunct the ruler of the Solar DSC.

Ruler of the 7th house in 1st house conjunct Sun, Jupiter and Pluto.
Ruler of the 1st house in 1st house conjunct Sun, Mercury and Pluto.

Ruler of 5th house in 11th house exactly trine Uranus.


Has anyone an idea what that could mean?
All I can see is, that it seems to be pretty significant.

DD

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izodesmozina
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posted July 30, 2008 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for izodesmozina     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, DD!

Yes, it seems significant. SR Asc cnj Asc means it is an important year for redefining your personality, I think. And yes, I think you should use 2007.
I'm having my SR houses superposed on my natal houses, so I guess I'm reevaluating stuff too. My SR chart has like 5 or 6 planets in the 1st, so it seems an important year for me too.
Don't get your hopes up too high on that Venus-Uranus trine, though. I'm having the conjunction for this year and so far, so nothing!

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darkdreamer
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posted July 30, 2008 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
No, I`not getting my hopes high with that, don`t worry. I think the Sun-Jupiter-Pluto-Mercury-conjunction in 1st house may be way stronger. And yes, I still feel it.
But of course anyone born around the 18th december will have the same solar return chart as I have.

Also, I guess next year could be interesting, too, with that exact Venus / NN-conjunction and the solar MC exactly conjunct my natal Venus.


What do you think for relationships should I be looking at the Venus-return, too?

DD

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izodesmozina
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posted July 30, 2008 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for izodesmozina     Edit/Delete Message
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But of course anyone born around the 18th december will have the same solar return chart as I have.

Yes and no. They wouldn't have the same houses, for instance. And Moon's position would be different.

In the matter of return charts, I've become quite attached to Moon RC. They're fairly accurate for me. And Moon rules my 7th. Perhaps you could do a Mercury RC then, for relationships?

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darkdreamer
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posted July 30, 2008 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
That is a good idea. The ruler of 7th house would probably be more noteable than Venus alone.

I have a mission now.


EDIT:
Not sure I like this chart.

The stellium of Sun, Mercury, Jupiter and Pluto now falls exactly onto the MC (and is exactly conjunct my natal Sun-Mercury-conjunction).
Mercury, is still ruler of DSC and falls exactly onto the MC, seems like a very prominent placement.

There is an ASC and Moon in Pisces (which reminds me of my draconic Pisces ASC actually).
Uranus, as ruler of 12th house, conjuncts the Pisces ASC by 3°; both are conjunct my natal Juno and Draco Valentine on 17° Pisces.

Uranus and ASC trine Venus.
Venus is in Scorpio in 8th house and rules the intercepted 7th house - so a Venus-Pluto-double?

Ruler of 5th house, MOon, falls in Pisces in 1st house (and exactly conjunct my Draco ASC and Draco Mars) and squares Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Pluto and MC. OUCH.

Also, the ruler of 2nd house falls into 8th house, and repeats the same connection, that i have natally, another way of having Venus-Pluto.

Superimposing houses:

The NN, ASC, Uranus and Moon fall onto my natal 3rd house.

The 2nd solar house falls into my natal 5th house.

the 3rd solare housecusp is conjunct my natal DSC.

the solar IC falls into my natal 7th house (with solar Mars being there, too, opposing my natal Venus exactly).

The beginning of the solar 6th house falls into my 8th solar house; but the rest with solar Saturn fall into my natal 9th house.

The 7th solar house falls into my natal 9th house. The inverted 7th solar house in Libra falls onto my 10th natal house.

The solar 8th house with Venus in it falls into my natal 11th house and also my natal 12th house.

The solar MC falls into my natal 1st house and so on.


Interesting is that the cusp of the solar 3rd house conjuncts my DSC and the ccusp of the 5th solar house falls onto the cusp of my 8th natal house.


Hmm, I wonder, what that all mean. Still significant?

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Got Gemini?
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posted July 31, 2008 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
Hold up, my bday just passed on June 15th. Does this mean I had to look at June 15th 2007 for my solar return for this year?

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