posted August 04, 2008 05:18 PM           

It`s only ONE way to approach this, of course.

But you`re more than welcome to see if you know people who fit in there, and how they do.

Partnerpattern.

1. DSC:
sign and conjunctions to the DSC
ruler in sign and house
planets in house 7 (also note which house they rule, that will explain WHY they search, what they search: like someone with Saturn in 7th house, needs much security and a rather conservative marriage to feel fulfilled. Why is that so? Let`s say Saturn rules his 2nd house, he needs that firm frame in a relationship, because he feels insecure and needs security, a relationship needs to make him feel valued - 2nd house issues).

You can include aspects to the ruler of 7 or planets in 7, too,b ut maybe they clutter the picture too much.

2.Venus in sign, house and aspects is relevant, too. I think.

3. 8th house:
sign and conjunctions to 8th house cusp
8th house ruler in sign and house
planets in 8th house (and where they come from)

4. 5th house:
sign and conjunctions to the cusp
ruler of 5th house in sign and house
planets in 5th house

The FIT IN, how we know that a partner really fulfills those criterias:

1. Sun and MOon in sign, house and important aspects

2. ASC
sign and conjunctions to ASC
ruler of ASC in sign and house
planets in 1st house

3. 2nd house
sign and conjunctions to its cusp
ruler of 2 in sign and house
planets in 2nd hous

4. 4th house
sign and conjunctions to the cusp
ruler of 4th house in sign and house
planets in 4th house

The DSC relates to the ASC (Venus - Mars)
the 8th house relates to the 2nd house (Mars/ Pluto - Venus)
the 5th house relates to the 4th house (Sun - Moon)

Since both the 5th and the 4th house are placed in the emotional quadrant, they will give more information about the emotional "fit" than the actual attraction pattern. That attraction happens from the relationship quadrant (house 7 and 8) to the pysical quadrant (house 1 and 2).

Of course it makes also sense to see if you have similiar needs in a relationship; then you should compare the 7th and 8th house of both persons with each other.

If you look at synastry aspects, also note in which house they fall and which houses they rule

posted August 04, 2008 06:34 PM           

As always..you start extremely interesting threads!

OK - Iīm going to read Jonnhyīs PARTNER PATTERN:

1.DSC:
DSC in CAP and its ruler( Saturn) in his 4th house
Moon in his 7th house

So,he needs someone wich give him security,and itīs responsible torwards life and committments.He also atunes very much with his partners,and somehow he needs to feel very conected at a emotional/feelings level with his loved one.
Saturn rules his 4th house,and itīs in his 4th house also - hmm home life and family might make him feel too responsible?Or does he might feel excessive restrain in his home life?

Or he needs to have a secure and cosy home life for him to feel that he found his true partner?

2.VENUS
VENUS IN VIRGO.
his VENUS in the 3rd house.
Venus rules the sign of TAURUS and LIBRA.he has his AC in libra and 11th in taurus.

he search or "act" a Virgo person when he is in love? He finds that inteligence,racional thought and cleaniness are attractive virtues in a girl. He is very faithfull and loyal in love and dont fall easily for someone.Just committs when he has sure of what he feels,and the other one feels.

Being in the 3rd, comunication is much of importance in a relationship and tries always to know what the other thinks and the "whyīs".

3.8TH HOUSE
in the sign of AQUA.
His MOON conj his 8th house.
Itīs ruler is Uranus which is in 5th and conj Eros.
No planets in his 8th.

8th is sex. so he likes to inovate and be free in order to fullfil his desires.Having uranus in the 5th,sex is very important for him in romance and fun-are intimately conected.With eros there,well he is really a very "Hot" guy

4.5TH HOUSE
cusp in SCORP.
Uranus/nept/vertx/mars/eros/siva/Ceres there.
Ruler of Scopr ( Pluto) is in his 4th house,conj SATURN.

So,in order for him to know that a partner have fulfield his criterias,the person has to be intense,misterious,be conected onto the "ocult" forces within ones self.

the asteroids there make it a little dificult cause the ONE must be at the same time a nurturer,as a erotic person.Active and somehow inventive and adventurous?

1:His SUn in LIBRA.MOON IN AQUA.sun in 3rd and Moon in 7th.

Needs balanced,educated,harmonious,inteligent and good looking partner.
Someone who know how to be free emotionally,can detatch but at the same time,keep the clost emotional bond in partnership.

2.ASC
IN CANCER.iTS RULER moon in the 7th in Aqua.
no planets in 1st.

3.2nd HOUSE
in LEO.no planets there,no conj to the cusp.

So,he might feel valued when Leo issues are involved - pride,center of attention,keep lot of friends,having a good social environment.

4. 4th house
in LIBRA.
hAS PSYCHE and MERC conj the cusp.
Has saturn/pluto and jup in the 4th.

he feels very conected onto 4th house issues:home family and life within his own self.

having satrun and pluto there...might indicate restrains and excessive responsibilty in his home life.Pluto there might have to do with his childwood life,where Mom develops a strong and intense "figure" where some equilibrium must exist in order for him to evolve?

posted August 04, 2008 06:57 PM           

1.DSC
in ARIES,no conj to it.
No planets in my 7th house.

Itīs ruler mars,is in my 11th conj Valentine and KARMA

so,although i dont have planets in 7th,i have the partner image conected with mars energies:strong person.who is determinated,strong willed and capable of fighting for what believes.an Arian kind of guy who also has pride and leadership qualities.
KARMA and Valentine along in LEO.might indicate that my partner will appear in social activity or sth? Itīs a person who is not new for me,and somehow itīs destined and my true love?

2.VENUS
Venus in LEO in the 11th conj Mars.

So,my guy is someone very "leonine":center of attention,proud of himself,likes social and arts,also needs to be loved quite truly and have some love drama in his life and mine too?

3.8th HOUSE
in TAURUS.Moon there along with Juno and OSiris.
The ruler of taurus is Venus and ceres ( rulling planet). my venus in the 11th and ceres in my 5th house in Aqua.

intimate life is conected with feelings and emotional life. Being Aqua,means that i also search someone with aquarian qualities that will satisfy my 8th house issues.
Osiris and juno there intensifies the importance of this house for me in terms of "committed partner" and " ideal husband".
Ceres associated in the 5th means that fun and romance is also interconected with sex life,along with a nurturing act.

4.5th HOUSE
in Aqua.
Ceres and Siva there.
Ruler of aqua ( nep) in 3rd in Sag.

So,for fun and romance i look someone comunicative,likes to travel and exchange knowledge.Someone inventive,adventurous.Nurturing and also "God of kundalini energies"

1.Sun in Virgo and Moon in Taurus

Need someone intelingent,racional but cosy.Someone who gives securitymconfort and sensual.Who likes to be surrounded with beautiful things and that appeals to the senses.

Sun in my 11th and moon in the 8th.

2.ASC
in LIBRA.Merc in conj to the cusp.
satunr and pluto in the 1st house.

Ruler of libra is in leo in the 11th house.

So,for me comunication is also important.Beauty,grace and equilibrium are a "Must" for me in a partner.
Responsible,intense and loyal to the maximum?

3.2nd house
in scorp.
No planets there unless Psyche asteroid.
Its ruler is in my 1st house in Libra.

4. 4th House
CAP.no planets there or conj to the cusp.

Its ruler is in my 1st in Libra

posted August 04, 2008 07:11 PM           

his Sun conj my ASC: i personify his ideal girl?

hIS mOON fall into my 5th and conj my Ceres/Siva: nurturing figure onto each other associated with romance and fun.

My Valentine/karma/mars falls onto his 1st:so,being related with my DSC house,means that his personality ( sun) is what i search in a partner

my venus/sun falls into his 2nd house: so does this means that financial as well as personal value and self esteem are important things that our relationship "awakes" in each other?

his vesta conj my 5th Cusp: he somehow is devoted onto me,through our relationship?

my Vx in my 7th conj his MC:his path in life is associated with my own path and relationship?

his isis/osiris conj my IC exact: he ( who is highly equilibrated in his feminin/masculine principles) reaches my deepest inner core when he IS in fact my IDEAL HUSBAND/MAN FIGURE?

his NN conj my Eros/MC: paths interlinked associated with erotic love and oneselfīs path ( career and inside life)

hsi Venus conj my Merc: here we conect our need for love verus comunication in our relationship

his uranus is in same sign that my own uranus:although a generacional aspect,the fact that its his Moonīs ruler and my 5th ruler,makes it a plus when it concern our "instable or erratic" behaviour. Somehow,we understand these "behaviours" of each other as necessary and needed in our own relationship.

posted August 04, 2008 07:21 PM           

great analysis of the natals.

And now you just have to see if you fit each other pattern.

Let me start with a listing of Patrick`s partner pattern and me.

my partner pattern sais:

1. DSC in Gemini, Venus antiscia Mercury
Yes, I do need intellectual stimulation and someone who can communicate.

Patric has Mars in Virgo squaring Mercury. The Virgo-Mars is Mercurian but not so much Geminilike, but luckily he has a strong Mars-Mercury-aspect, so yes he CAN communicate.

2. my 7th ruler in Sagittarius:
he has Sun and MOon in Sagittarius, ASC-ruler in 9th house, AC-ruler conjunct Jupiter, Mars conjunct Jupiter
WEll, he more than just fulfills my Sag-needs (I could even add that I also have Sun and Mars in SAgittarius, and Mars squaring Jupiter - so the image of my ideal man is clearly Jupiter-like).
It`s actually what I noticed first about him, his openness, his enthusiasm, his laughter.

3. my 7th ruler in 1st house (this is the DOMINANT placement), my 5th house ruler in 1st house.
This is the one placement I usually never get fulfilled. But this time it is fulfilled, since he has Aries intercepted in 1st house and the old AC-ruler conjuncts Mars.

4. Ruler of my 5th house is in Capricorn, Saturn is in 8th house
he has Sun and Moon in 10th house squaring Saturn, so he also has that serious ambitious side that I appreciate

5. Ruler of my 8th house in 2nd hosue
On first glance he doesn`t have anything in 2nd hosue or Taurus or strong Venus aspects to ASC, Sun, Moon or Mars.
BUT he has Venus square pluto, and the ruler of his 2nd house squares the ruler of his 8th house, so I guess we have a need in common here, some similiarity, even t hough he may not actively provide that 2nd house side.

BUT he has Mars exactly antiscia Pluto, which is complimentary to my Venus-Pluto-connection. It`s a Venus-Mars-attraction over Pluto. He provides (Mars), what I need (Venus), and that is Plutonic. lol

All in all he fits into my partner patter amazingly well.

HIS Pattern:

DSC in Virgo, 8th house ruler in 6th house
So he also is seeking for mercury-qualities, even though more the introverted type. I have Mercury conjunct Sun and MErcury in 1st house. So I am intelligent enough I think. I am not orderly enough, though, for a need for Virgo / 6th house.

Libra in 7th house, ruler of 8th house in 7:
He seeks a very Venusian type of partner especially for intimacy and real close connections (his 8th house need).
Hmm, I have Venus in 1st house, so this seems to be a part of my personality (even though I don`t really see it myself). I also have Venus square pluto, which is similiar like the placement of 8th house ruler in 7th house.

he has DSC-ruler in Sagittarius in 9th house.
He himself seeks some philosopher I think.
I have Sun, Mercury and ASCi n SAgittarius with ASC square Jupiter. If I have a trait, then it`s Sagittarian I guess.

He has Saturn in 7th house , and 5th house ruler in 10th house.
This one could be tricky. I`m no particular Saturnian character, astrologically. Saturn only has an exact quinkunx to Moon and a trine to my chartruler - not so energetic apsects.
I have Venus in Capricorn though. I wonder if that is enough. But Venus rules my 5th house of selfexpression. So my creative expression and emotional expression in romantic environments has something Capricornian. Mmh, I don`t know.

He has Pluto in 7, Venus square pluto
my ruler of 2 in 8, my ruler of 8 in 2, Venus square Pluto, ruler of 5 square Pluto
Pluto actually seems to be a theme in both our partner patterns.

Ruler of his 5th hosue conjuncts his Sun:
I have Sun in 1st house, so that is okay, too.

Doesn`t look too bad all in all.

Now the synastric aspects (I only list conjunction, opposition, antiscia):

my DSC ruler conjunct his Sun
my DC ruler conjunct his Moon
my DC ruler conjunct his 5th house ruler
my DC ruler conjunct his Neptune
my DC ruler conjunct his AC-ruler
my DC contrascia his Venus
my DC contrascia his 7th house-ruler

his DC ruler conjunct my Mars
his DC ruler conjunct my IC-ruler
his DC ruler conjunct my Neptune
his DC ruler conjunct my AC
his 7th house ruler antiscia my Mars
his 7th house ruler antiscia my IC-ruler
his DC antiscia my IC
his DC antiscia my Pluto

my 8th house ruler has only flowing aspects to his planets as well as my 5th house ruler

his 8th house ruler opposite my AC-ruler

his 5th house ruler conjuncts my Sun
his 5th house ruler conjuncts my DC-ruler

The DSC-ruler-connections are quite astonishing actually.

posted August 04, 2008 07:26 PM           

I have Cancer on cusp of 8th house with Moon in Aquarius in 2nd house.
SAturn is in Cancer in 8th house (ruling 2nd house).
Vertex and Eros are also in 8th house.

He has SCorpio on cusp of 8th hosue.
Pluto is in 7th house and Mars in 6th house. And also, there is Uranus in 8th house (coming from 12th house).

The huge difference that screams at the observer is the fact that I have Saturn in 8th house and he has Uranus in 8th house. It seems I seek security, much security, while he wants to stay free and independent.
So I need a partner who would provide a stable environment, while he would need a partner who is somehow unusual and wouldn`t tie him down.

This sounds horrible to be honest.

But if I look deeper into the natals it gets more interesting.
I seek that Saturn in a relationship, and he has Sun and Moon in 10th house squaring Saturn.

He seeks that Uranus in a relationship, and I have Moon in Aquarius and Uranus on the 11th house cusp.

posted May 04, 2009 07:24 PM         

This is her pattern, and the way i fit in.

1. her DC in Sagittarius, she has uranus there. She has neptune in 7th.
I have moon in sagi,uranus and neptune. My sun is in the 9th house. I have jupiter trine venus(ruler of my 7th), and jupiter con neptune(ruler of my 5th). I have sun trine moon and sun trine uranus. My moon conjunct uranus.

2. Her 7th house ruler(Jupiter) in Capricorn.
I have Jupiter in capri too. My AC is conjunct Saturn, my sun is square saturn. I have mercury in 10th(ruled by capri) sextile saturn. My venus is in 10th as well.

3. Her 7th house ruler in 8th(naturally ruled by scorpio)
I have mars and saturn in 1st house in scorpio, my AC is scorpio.

4. Her 5th house ruler(mercury) is in aries in 11th, her mars is in scorpio.
I have mars in 1st house in scorpio.My mercury is in virgo.My 4th ruler(uranus) is square mercury.

5. Her 8th house in capricorn. Jupiter in 8th.
I have Jupiter ruler of my 2nd in capricorn. My venus and mercury in 10th. My Jupiter trine venus.

6. Her 8th house ruler(saturn) in scorpio in 6th.
My mars and saturn in scorpio too. My 8th ruler (mercury)in Virgo. My mercury sextile saturn.

posted May 05, 2009 05:53 AM         

I agree, it can get very cluttered and complex.
Actually I think the most important things to look at to see if you "fit" her pattern, are Sun, Moon, ASC, ruler of ASC, planets in 1st house and mars (for man), and Venus (for woman), and of the aspects conjunction would be strongest.

If we look at EVERYTHINg,t he image gets distorted.
Let`s say Person A has Uranus in 7th house, and Person B has a weak 8wide) sextile of mars to uranus. We could say, he fits, as his Mars has a contact to Uranus.
but what if he has at the same time Mars in Capricorn conjunct Pluto?
I`m sure the Capricorn / Pluto would be far MORE obvious and clear in his personality, so we could be deluded by that weak Mars-uranus-aspect to think he fits, but actually this will be overshadowed by stronger constellations. So we should look at the strongest ones.

In my opinion those are:
Sun, Moon, ASC, ruler of ASC, Venus/ Mars in sign and house

conjunctions to Sun, Moon, ASC, ruler of ASC and Venus / Mars (with the other challenging aspects coming next in strength)

Planets in the 1st house and 5th house (both houses have to do with our identity and selfexpression; 1st is physical expression, 5th is emotional expression, which explains its relation to romance actually).

so let`s have a look:

"1. her DC in Sagittarius, she has uranus there. She has neptune in 7th.
I have moon in sagi"
Moon in Sagi is important, even though I never know just HOW much men live out their Moons.

",uranus and neptune."
generational and therefor not important.
UNLESS uranus and neptune are conjunct Moon or ruler of 1st and 5th house.

"My sun is in the 9th house."
Important. Definitely. Is comparable to a Sag-sun. There is a definitey Jupiter-influence in your personality with Moon in Sagittarius and Sun in 9th house. A perfect fit for her Sag-DSC.

""I have jupiter trine venus(ruler of my 7th), and jupiter con neptune(ruler of my 5th)."
Only a minor influence, unless jupiter or Neptune rule 1st or 5th house or are placed in those hosues.

"moon conjunct uranus."
could give you an Uranian vibe, depending on if you express your Moon actively.

"2. Her 7th house ruler(Jupiter) in Capricorn.
I have Jupiter in capri too."
Jupiter in Cappy is only minor. You will have other stronger aspects.

"y AC is conjunct Saturn, my sun is square saturn."
that one is strong, showing that you have that Saturnian-energy she is seeking. especially SAturn on ASC.

"3. Her 7th house ruler in 8th(naturally ruled by scorpio)
I have mars and saturn in 1st house in scorpio, my AC is scorpio."
That gives you enough Plutonic vibe.
Actually I once heard that the houseplacement of the 7th house ruler is the strongest indication, much stronger than the sign on its cusp. But am not sure if that is true.
Mars and ASC in Scorpio show that you have what she is seeking.

"4. Her 5th house ruler(mercury) is in aries in 11th"
so for romance she is seeking Aries and 11th house energy.

You have mars in 1st house - that gives you Aries energy, and you have that Moon conjunct uranus. But I`m not sure if that is strong enough for her 11th house / Uranus-neeeds, especially since you also have much Pluto / Scorpio-energy, which could be overshadow the Uranian energy at times.

"5. Her 8th house in capricorn. Jupiter in 8th.
I have Jupiter ruler of my 2nd in capricorn."
Complimentary houses and signs and planets are always attractive.
It seems like she has a contradicting partner pattern; as if she wants expansion and independence as well as commitment and depth, which is hard to find.
But curiously you have those contradiction in your personality, too. That should be a plus.

"6. Her 8th house ruler(saturn) in scorpio in 6th."
you do not seem to have strong Virgo or 6th house or Mercury-energy. That could be a problem for her to get involved more deeply and profoundly and - sexually- with you.
but then again, noone gets all wishes fulfilled.

It would be ideal if your 1st or 2nd house ruler were placed in the 6th house or conjunct Mercury.

posted May 05, 2009 06:35 AM         

I thought that having mercury in virgo would be enough, to give me the 6th or virgo vibe, guess i would need important aspects as well. Hmmm does it count if mercury is lets say aspected with the 2nd house planets only, but not with the 1st and 2nd house rulers. Cuz i have mercury square moon and uranus which are both in my 2nd?. My 8th(gemini) ruler is mercury as well, does that count, her 8th house relating to mine?