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Topic: Virgo the Harvester
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blue moon
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From: U.K
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posted August 12, 2008 04:51 AM
 
Is the symbol of the Virgin unhelpful in depciting this sign? Unmoved's observations on this subject have made me ponder. A guest to my house told me (unprompted!) that his sign was the Virgin. My husband, like the guest a non-Anglophone, told him this wasn't the best translation and he should say he is a Virgo. This brings me to a quote from "Born to Be Together" by Terry Lamb in which the author describes this sign as Virgo the Harvester: quote:
The Virgo in us harvests the crops of understanding planted in the previous signs. In order to do so, we must have skills and techniques. Through Virgo, we develop skills and refine methods so that we can achieve our aims efficiently. We choose what we want from the harvest carefully and logically - only the best will do. With an empahsis in Virgo, our practical and analytical skills are very strong. Virgoans are excellent at making things work. At their best, they can see into the heart of a situation and find a way to accomplish what is desired. They can be expert problem-solvers, taking what others hand them and applying the necessary skills and techniques to find a solution. ... They are loyal to friends, family and lovers, but sometimes they can approach their love relationships with intellect and duty. They may forget abotu the warmer side of loving. However, once they learn to trust, they can be both sensual and sensitive
The image of the harvester may be more helpful, as it carries an image, at least to me, of warmth and a sense of purpose. quote:
They apply discernment in all that they do. The core drive that lies beneath eveything they do is to findand fulfill purpose.....They can breathe inner life into outer forms - use the harvest for the most appropriate circumstances.
Like any energy, the Virgoan spirit can go astray. quote:
When Virgo energy is overused, it loses it sense of purpose, analysis turns into criticism, discernment becomes perfectionism, and the quest for purpose gets lost in a mass of details. Virgo's warm, sensual side gets buriedn in the dry world of the overused, anxious mind.
But the carping, critism of the petty Virgoan spirit can astray is not indicative of the sign itself. I know many Virgo in Mars people, for example, one gets bogged down in details sometimes, but like all the others she has an artistic flair that can't be denied. And when she creates something, it will be quality. IP: Logged |
Unmoved
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posted August 12, 2008 05:29 AM
Thanks blue moon for starting this thread. I agree, the Virgo archetype needs to be better defined and the ranges of Virgos must be addressed so that Virgos like me do not feel alienated by the sign. I have always thought that my Virgo qualities come out when I need them to come out. And, thus far, I have only identified with one quality of Virgo and that is her power for analysis. Other than that, I thought that astrologers were speaking of another type of Virgo that I am not. Yes, this is very interesting indeed. IP: Logged |
koiflower
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posted August 12, 2008 05:49 AM
Venus in Virgo is one of my favourite encounters  IP: Logged |
mblover
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posted August 12, 2008 10:43 AM
I agree with the fact that Virgo has been one of the least understood signs. Linda has talked about Virgo's true ruler yet to be discovered. And, Liz Green has conistently mentioned Virgo's qualities oriented towards Intelligence and Discrimination.IP: Logged |
koiflower
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posted August 13, 2008 05:40 AM
I've noticed all the Venus in Virgo people I work with are really good looking. But, I am Venus in Virgo - do you think I think they are good looking because we are the same Venus sign, or are we just good looking, period??!!
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bvanzy
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posted August 13, 2008 06:14 AM
I love the symbol of the Virgin. I love that she's human, I love that she's female, I love that she's a Goddess symbol. And with all that, still represented by Mercury - indicating the excellence of the human mind.The harvester is a pretty neat symbol too, but what about that scythe?! Truthfully I like the Maiden for Virgo.
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bvanzy
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posted August 13, 2008 06:23 AM
Traditionally when you think about it – at least in European countries – a woman who did not take a husband often worked, unless she was of great wealth – in which case she often dedicated herself to charitable work.Now other – married – women worked too, in craft-based, and other, areas such as midwifery. But it was common for spinsters (think of THAT word) to dedicate their lives to religious service or to a working lifetime. Seems perfectly in tune with Virgoan characteristics to me.
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balancebull
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posted August 13, 2008 11:26 AM
I read somewhere that a more accurate translation of the word Virgo is "whole unto oneself" rather than the oft-quoted (and misquoted) "virgin". The nature of Virgo is inner directed, self-sufficient and discerning. Virgin may have some of these qualities but the word itself is too distracting and narrow. We need to recognize the Virgo energy as one that acts on inner authority, and get away from these ideas of virginal, clean, unsullied, uptight etc.IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted August 13, 2008 11:45 AM
I agree with balancebull.Also, I do believe that Virgo's true nature was difficult to express in the age of Pisces which is ending now. As we're entering the Age of Aquarius, Virgo will find better expression. IP: Logged |
CrimsonChyld
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From: Murray, UT
Registered: May 2008
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posted August 15, 2008 07:29 PM
I'm a Virgo and haven't felt like any description of Virgo fits me until I read this. It fits me more..Especially this part...
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When Virgo energy is overused, it loses it sense of purpose, analysis turns into criticism, discernment becomes perfectionism, and the quest for purpose gets lost in a mass of details. Virgo's warm, sensual side gets buried in the dry world of the overused, anxious mind.
I do this A LOT lol! ------------------
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EighthMoon
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posted August 15, 2008 08:05 PM
I still think good ole Chiron could be the ruler of Virgo. I always think of Virgos as healers...wounded healers would make even more sense. Those that I know always make their past pain "useful" by helping others. So many in the medical field!  8th IP: Logged |
enchantress299
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posted August 16, 2008 02:17 PM
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I still think good ole Chiron could be the ruler of Virgo. I always think of Virgos as healers...wounded healers would make even more sense. Those that I know always make their past pain "useful" by helping others. So many in the medical field!
I agree!  Virgos are good healers, and I've always thought Chiron should maybe rule us. However, I also have Chiron prominently displayed in my chart, with aspect to my MC, so maybe that's why I think that. ------------------
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From: Outside, to watch the nightfall in the rain
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posted August 16, 2008 08:25 PM
Well BM - you've just described that ceres is domicile in virgo in effect. However mercury would be the primary ruler of virgo. IP: Logged |
Dragoon
Knowflake Posts: 148
From: Saturn
Registered: Dec 2007
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posted August 16, 2008 08:40 PM
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When Virgo energy is overused, it loses it sense of purpose, analysis turns into criticism, discernment becomes perfectionism, and the quest for purpose gets lost in a mass of details. Virgo's warm, sensual side gets buriedn in the dry world of the overused, anxious mind.
I agree. The fire power of a Virgo in the critical and perfection mood is definitely unmatched by any other signs. IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross
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From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
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posted August 17, 2008 01:06 AM
balancebull wrote:
quote:
I read somewhere that a more accurate translation of the word Virgo is "whole unto oneself" rather than the oft-quoted (and misquoted) "virgin". The nature of Virgo is inner directed, self-sufficient and discerning. Virgin may have some of these qualities but the word itself is too distracting and narrow. We need to recognize the Virgo energy as one that acts on inner authority, and get away from these ideas of virginal, clean, unsullied, uptight etc.
Liz Greene, herself a Virgo, has some good things to say about this in her "Astrology For Lovers". That may be where you read it.
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Heart--Shaped Cross
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From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA
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posted August 17, 2008 01:09 AM
EighthMoon,I'm partial to the theory that Chiron rules a process which extends from Virgo through Sagittarius. There is another theory, which I find interesting, that Ceres is the true ruler of Virgo. IP: Logged |
mblover
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posted August 17, 2008 02:27 AM
Hi HSC, isn't Liz Pisces? The description she has provided about Pisces is way too deep...IP: Logged |
Azalaksh
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posted August 17, 2008 10:48 PM
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