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writesomething
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posted August 14, 2008 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for writesomething     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont like to be on any anyone's south node. I dont want to be in someone's life and "hold them back" on their life purpose. I feel like with these connections, theres a lot of ease/closeness, but would never want to be the reason theyre not growing.

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posted August 14, 2008 04:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is exactly How I feel,
My husbands sun is conjunct my SN
And I always felt like he is holding me back.
I just can't grow with him and told our karma is over. He is begging me to stay but I am so depressed, I feel like I can't move there is just no life left in me.

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posted August 14, 2008 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my maternal grandfather's Moon was almost exactly conjunct my stepgrandmother's South Lunar Node. The conjunction in Pisces.

They were married for over 40 years and had 4 children together(5 if including my mother who was from my grandfather's first marriage which was very short) until my grandfather's suicide,but that had nothing to do with my grandmother. My grandfather had a long history of alcoholism and had Hepatitis C as well as cirrhosis of the liver. There was definitely some co-dependence in the marriage.

my grandfather was my stepgrandmother's first and only love. She met him when she was 13,and he was 19. They got married 3 years later.

interestingly, my grandfather's Moon was in alignment with Markab which is known as the Star of Sorrow. That also means that my stepgrandmother's South Node is in alignment with Markab too. The dispositor of my grandfather's Moon in Pisces, Neptune opposed his Stationary Saturn in Pisces.


I think that there are other factors besides the South Node that can indicate being held back. Many couples have conjunctions of the South Lunar Nodes,and don't feel that way. South Lunar Nodes in synastry can indicate an instant feeling of familiarity which could be from a possible pastlife if you believe in reincarnation.

also conjunctions and other aspects to the geocentric south planetary nodes(especially the nodes of the objects that orbit before Jupiter) can indicate possible pastlife connection.


South Lunar Node is also known as Ketu in Vedic Astrology, and its known as the planet of liberation,detachment but also loss and suffering. Those tended to be connected.

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posted August 14, 2008 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think we are in charge of our own destiny and whether we move forward or not is up to us. By saying you cannot fulfill your destiny or that someone can hold you back from fulfilling your destiny is giving them total control and power in your life.

If someone is on your South node, they may not "contribute" to your growth, but I think it is unfair to say they hold you back.

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posted August 14, 2008 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

GemGemGem

Well said

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posted August 14, 2008 05:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gosh - this "holding back"-factor ... I've got my own VENUS exactly conjunct my SN in Virgo. Does this mean my love could "hold me back"????

SN and Venus (Virgo/9th house) are also tighly conjunct (orb 1) Prudentia, Deceit, Sensitivity and Atlantis - and I have been wondering whether my perception of love might be "outdated" in this lifetime...? Whether I should compromise my moral/ethic ideas of love for the sake of more ... "easy going" ...?

I also feel a certain tension between my love life and my need to expres myself intellectually/professionally. BUT: My Venus-cj-SN trines beautifully my Juno and Ceres in 5th house.

Okay, this is not a Synastry-question, but tell me what you think, please: Venus cj SN - Love as a hinderance?

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posted August 14, 2008 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

hey avarella - check out the ic/mc thread just below for details on magnetic axis etc.

Also, Lindaland is a great forum for sharing ideas. If someone feels 'something' for 'some reason' based on an astrological aspect, then so be it. Let's add it to our repertoire of knowledge, and use it for further evalutaions.

I don't often say things like this, but I will.... I think it's a bit unfair to say someone is a bit unfair for what they are deducing. Otherwise, everything that everyone is saying here on the Astrology forum is unfair.

I won't even charge 2 cents for that. That's my Leo generosity!

Have a great day, knowflakes

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posted August 14, 2008 06:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
KOIFLOWER: Thanks for that hint! I will! Too kind of you! (Actually I am still in that "exile"-situation, in "his" town .. But everything is FINE!!! That job I'm doin' here is great - and I am surprised to learn how much I am "over him". I lost all my fear when I came here - I don't care if I meet him or not, by coincidence. I am just doing my thing, meeting great people ... and feel great, great relief - because I got the feeling that I "passed this test";-) )

Thanks for your support. I'll check that thread out.

* edit * : hey, KOIFLOWER - I hope you're the right one to speak to ... That Leonine who shares some astrological positions with "you know who";-)

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posted August 14, 2008 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SN action ~ well I checked and sure enough my husband's Mars is conjunct my South Node.

Holding me back, well yes, from the freedom to do exactly what I like. So maybe it is just as well. As for life purpose, my NN and Mars in the 3rd, he is the person most likely to tell me to put that to good use and that I shouldn't sell myself short.

Oh, and that Mars/SN synastry is Opposite my Mars in Aqua (obviously CNJ my NN). Of course, like most husbands/men/Mars in Leos he likes to try and tell me what to do. But I tell him to get stuffed. Secretly, he likes that.

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posted August 14, 2008 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Mars conjuncts my South Node in early Capricorn. I suppose my actions (Mars) are in some harmonized accordance with holding myself back (Cap Mars = self restraint, but I also have Moon conjunct Saturn).

I say this because I've been incredibly happy in the couple intimate relationships I've had with early/mid Capricorn women.

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posted August 15, 2008 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

SN & NN are definitely worth looking into!! I'm sure it acounts for a 'pull' feeling.

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posted August 15, 2008 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
a777

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I've got my own VENUS exactly conjunct my SN in Virgo.

an interpretation of that could be that until you learn to love yourself that you can't move forward with (or to) omeone else.

i have virgo in south node/pisces north node too. i highly recommend jan spiller's book "astrology for the soul" if you want to learn more about this. it's brilliant.

EDIT: the relationship stuff that she talks about is so so good and useful.

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posted August 16, 2008 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you do read Astrology for the Soul, make sure to read the section based on your house position as well. I have NN in Scorpio in the 6th and the section on NN in Virgo was just as true for me as the chapter on Scorpio.

As for the SN holding one back, I still haven't decided if that's true. I think that it indicates (often intense) past life associations and therefore, until both people agree to work through those previous life issues, it may indeed feel as though we are being held back from moving forward. This might be expecially true if only one person is interested in growth.

Having said that, I also think that you need to consider NN aspects as well. I have my current bf's SN conjuncting my Moon and my SN conjuncting his Jupiter and sometimes I do feel like I am being held back. (Maybe he does too?) We also have NN conjunct NN and so there's also a sense of moving in a very similar direction together through life. My NN is also conjunct his Vertex.

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posted August 16, 2008 05:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Love, PA and A777

Just a quick note: "astrology for the soul" I also found that the sidereal placement also said a little about myself as well.

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posted August 17, 2008 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
vesta

ah, brilliant idea. i would never have thought of that. i'm off to astro.com right now. thanks for that.

EDIT: now that gives me aquarius nn, but still in 12th house. aqua is also my moon sign. i always find that when i look at the different types of charts - draco, trop, etc - that they always seem to correspond with each other in some way - say the same thing even through different placements - even numerology and personality type fits perfectly with my astrology. really fascinates me.

back to "astrology of the soul". the nodes are the first things i look at in a chart. i really think they're the most important placements. also, if you find that book valuable - jan spiller has another one which is just amazing and talks about each planet in each sign and house. it's called "spiritual astrology" and it is just brilliant. highly highly highly recommend it to anyone and everyone. if you've seen it you'll know what i mean. it also discusses eclipse signs in brilliant detail.

EDIT 2: vesta
there's a thread in lindaland central for you.

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posted August 17, 2008 08:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PeaceAngel: Thanks a lot for that hint with that book! I'm also gonna try that sidereal thing with astro.com soon. *edit*: So: Thanks vesta-sister as well! *edit *

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posted August 17, 2008 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you cannot have a south node contact without a corresponding north node contact. people (and your own planets) on your south node do highlight the gifts and experience you bring from the past - and maybe they were there while you developed same! - but that doesn't mean they hold you back! it can just as easily be seen as a good foundation to take off from, and those people can be your rock....as said above, you can't blame your south node connections for holding you back...the south node is part of your chart, as your blue eyes are part of your physical vessel. embrace your past for bringing you to where you are today! XX

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posted June 12, 2011 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good thread about SN in synastry

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posted June 12, 2011 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alma Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I dont like to be on any anyone's south node. I dont want to be in someone's life and "hold them back" on their life purpose. I feel like with these connections, theres a lot of ease/closeness, but would never want to be the reason theyre not growing.

I hear ya, feel the same way about SN. But if there are any trines or even sextiles to their NN, they probably won't feel so held back.

And I think I've read at cafeastrology that the SN person may eventually outgrow the relationship and move on, but I don't find that to be true. People who touch my SN/Pluto always leave first. It's the NN/Vertex people that sticks around for me. Guess they know I still need some help growing into my NN.

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