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Topic: WHY'S EVERYBODY SO MAD???
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MainLine ModelD Knowflake Posts: 52 From: Philly, PA USA Registered: Mar 2008
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posted August 16, 2008 11:35 AM
Just throwing this out here,because I haven't been on the threads since Feburary. But, it seems like people reply to posts much more snotty and obnoxiously than they used to. I used to enjoy reading the posts and the comments because they were kind and genuine. some witty, some straight to the point. But, all together they seemed to intend to be helpful. - But I have notice a sort of sub-culture of some regulars who either are helpful to everyone or try to dismiss "newbies" by leaving snide remarks and comments. I am a firm believer in the golden rule. "Treat others how you want to be treated"...You never know what is going on in someone's life, and generally when people post something on the internet like this, they probably don't have other people to talk to about it, or are afraid to, or something like that. I am convinced that there is some negative energy out here in the world today, whether it be the stars or the stench of our human egos. Just the other day I waved randomly at a neighbor and had him stare blankly at me lol...What's the deal??? Life is tough, for everyone..no excuses...But, we could be nicer and kinder to one another... a little understanding and patience would be great. Or...if you have nothing nice to say...KEEP IT MOVINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG ...don't get me wrong, I love a difference of opinion..but tact goes along ways...Be Blessed IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 3823 From: nevada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted August 16, 2008 11:52 AM
I "second" the Golden Rule Welcome back MainLineModelD IP: Logged |
ladya22 Knowflake Posts: 86 From: Florida Registered: Jun 2005
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posted August 16, 2008 12:00 PM
HI MainLine-I third it! thanks for saying this. Alex IP: Logged |
CrimsonChyld Knowflake Posts: 329 From: Murray, UT Registered: May 2008
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posted August 16, 2008 01:22 PM
Yes! I agree that people in general are much angrier now days. Even at work. I too am a firm believer that you should treat others as you want them to treat you. I get a lot of that where I smile at someone or even say hello and they snub me more times then not. whaddup with that?------------------ Make new friends But keep the old One is silver and the other's gold IP: Logged |
BornUnderDioscuri Moderator Posts: 2913 From: Never Never Land Registered: Oct 2006
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posted August 16, 2008 01:31 PM
Mars is transiting over Pluto...that sounds like something that would make people really firey and angry about everything IP: Logged |
Deliverance Knowflake Posts: 440 From: Bolloxville, Nutbush Registered: Mar 2005
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posted August 16, 2008 01:34 PM
I dont see the anger, I think people are being more *real* these days.IP: Logged |
Kick It Knowflake Posts: 1032 From: Leeds Registered: May 2008
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posted August 16, 2008 02:18 PM
Its good that you bring this up, but what about the people who leave snide remarks etc? If they do, they may not realise this or even care, so this way of notifying people doesnt seem the best. Is there any other way which a problem like that, if there is one, can be resolved?IP: Logged |
Unmoved Knowflake Posts: 2160 From: Born in S.Africa Registered: Jun 2007
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posted August 16, 2008 02:23 PM
Kick ItYes, there is a way even though it is not the best way. You can contact a Moderator by clicking on their name... then you and the Mod can discuss the the issue and then a soltion could be worked upon. Or go to the source and email Randall for anything with which you are unhappy if you feel the Mod isn't comfortable for you. IP: Logged |
Kick It Knowflake Posts: 1032 From: Leeds Registered: May 2008
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posted August 16, 2008 02:31 PM
That is the best way! Thank you for that Unmoved.IP: Logged |
MainLine ModelD Knowflake Posts: 52 From: Philly, PA USA Registered: Mar 2008
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posted August 16, 2008 02:35 PM
Kick It, good point. But; if it's not intentional than so be it. and if they don't care, that's fine too. It takes all kinds to make the world go 'round. I just wanted to throw it out there to anyone, as a reminder. I don't think it's being "real" to be crass or tactless, and I just wanted to make the point that, people are looking for solutions not criticism. Why kick someone who is down? BUT...if someone does try to kick you when you are down. I would remind ourselves that they are probably hurting more, and are more confused and upset then we are. "Hurt people, hurt people" But don't let them hurt you. In short....Stay Positive!!!!!!!! IP: Logged |
deuxantares Knowflake Posts: 1197 From: Meet Me in Sofia Registered: Nov 2006
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posted August 16, 2008 02:38 PM
Guys, i think we need to use more smileys to avoid misinterpretation. Always remember that words do not always capture 100% what people exactly mean. Plus unlike in live conversation, here there is no body language or intonation or volume that the other person can use to gauge what we are trying to say. Some words have more than one meaning (worse, they even have connotative meanings) and the way we use them are colored or affected by other words that come before or after them. plus there are idiomatic expressions and euphemisms, oh no. What i'm saying is let's not be too sensitive and touchy. sometimes, we imagine slight/malice where there is none intended. you know, the other person may just be joking or their sense of humor is different than ours. remember, we come from different cultures and backgrounds, we look at the world through different lenses. it also helps to read other posts by the same person to determine their writing/posting style. And please let's read/review our posts before hitting enter. (is this what i really want to say? is this the right word to use?) add a smiley or a wink or a bouncing frog where necessary. LOL. let's rejoice in the fact that this great site has brought us together.
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Deliverance Knowflake Posts: 440 From: Bolloxville, Nutbush Registered: Mar 2005
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posted August 16, 2008 02:46 PM
quote: I don't think it's being "real" to be crass or tactless, and I just wanted to make the point that, people are looking for solutions not criticism. Why kick someone who is down?
I havent observed anyone being crass or tactless. If people are in fact being crass or tactless inform them as the person might not be aware are actining in that manner. We all have different perceptions of peoples responces. IP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted August 18, 2008 03:09 AM
Oh really? I think my eagle eyes might have spotted some crassness. Being the 'net this outlet of expression lends itself to snide comments, tactlessness and so forth. If anyone really wants to let off steam I can recommend competitive gameshow sites or anywhere where moderators are let loose with big axes to hack down outpourings of crassness. But, I always think, or maybe that is feel as I am Libran Moon at 0 degrees, you don't know what someone is suffering to make them behave that way. Being in the U.K, on some of the more aggressive sites, I have got talking to people in the U.S and have discovered that more than one was up in the early hours because they were in pain and taking cancer drugs. So, you just don't know. IP: Logged |
Deliverance Knowflake Posts: 440 From: Bolloxville, Nutbush Registered: Mar 2005
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posted August 18, 2008 05:57 AM
Like I said before, if someone is being crass or objectionable. Point it out to them - let them know they have offended you or whoever. Things wont change if you dont adress the culprits. IP: Logged |
koiflower Knowflake Posts: 1258 From: Australia Registered: Jun 2008
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posted August 18, 2008 06:11 AM
I have found people here to be wonderful. I have been visiting LL for a few months now. I know a recent thread has opened up a Pandora's Box - and it wasn't really connected to astrology - just one hot political debate!!That really has got to be a one-off thread of its kind. Coming here has been a hugely positive experience for me. My interest in astrology has been rekindled after a 25 year absence. There are all types of people who are quirky, cheeky, witty, fun, serious, loving, spiritual, egotistical, thoughtful, intelligent, studious, with so much to share and offer. We are all learning from each other. Sometimes we are tired, sometimes vibrant and eager to share our day. Sometimes angry, or even typing with an afterglow of having had a beautiful experience. Whatever is 'mad' will pass. I cannot see any negative feeling surviving long on this website. Oh my gosh, is this transit Venus conjunting my natal Venus by 0° talking here Seriously, this place rocks! and I have meet some very lovely friends here!! IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel Knowflake Posts: 6677 From: Australia Registered: May 2008
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posted August 18, 2008 09:21 AM
koiflower quote: Seriously, this place rocks! and I have meet some very lovely friends here!!
well said. totally agreed. i guess the thing is that it's open forum and everyone has different opinions and words of expressions and the right to express them. and it's a matter of interpretation. sometimes people are sensitive and take things in ways that were never intended. it only takes someone to be having a bad day to take something personally that wasn't meant that way. and vice versa, to say something in a way that they didn't mean. sometimes it comes down to ego. maybe it comes down to how seriously you take yourself too. i always keep in mind that with our usernames we have a persona to a point and that we only reveal certain parts or amounts of ourselves here. i think it's rude and out of place when comments are made attacking people's character, especially without knowing anything about them. that's just making it personal when it shouldn't be. i have noticed a pattern though. the ones that mainly complain and become hostile or most easily offended are the ones that are here for a short time - they post their charts, want to hear about themselves and then leave. no contribution to others' threads, no genuine interest in astrology or anyone else, or in friendship and socialising. most people are here in the name of fun, friendship and learning. and to me that's the spirit of the site. IP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted August 18, 2008 02:21 PM
It got pointed out. I hope the offenders are sharp enough to spot it. IP: Logged |
Deliverance Knowflake Posts: 440 From: Bolloxville, Nutbush Registered: Mar 2005
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posted August 18, 2008 04:54 PM
I hope so too IP: Logged |
Hexxie Knowflake Posts: 960 From: :::Libra Sun / 29* Gemini Rising / Aquarius Moon::: Registered: Jul 2005
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posted August 18, 2008 06:41 PM
Ok, this is a bit off topic...but I can't resist! quote: ..."`But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked. `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.' `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice. `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.' Alice didn't think that proved it at all; however, she went on `And how do you know that you're mad?' `To begin with,' said the Cat, `a dog's not mad. You grant that?' `I suppose so,' said Alice. `Well, then,' the Cat went on, `you see, a dog growls when it's angry, and wags its tail when it's pleased. Now I growl when I'm pleased, and wag my tail when I'm angry. Therefore I'm mad.'"
------------------ `Who are you?' said the Caterpillar. This was not an encouraging opening for a conversation. Alice replied, rather shyly, `I--I hardly know, sir, just at present-- at least I know who I WAS when I got up this morning, but I think I must have been changed several times since then.' ~Lewis Carroll IP: Logged |
MainLine ModelD Knowflake Posts: 52 From: Philly, PA USA Registered: Mar 2008
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posted August 18, 2008 07:26 PM
I must say, that I notice a bit of snide and under-handed remarks on this very post. Must be a clashing of personality types, but I don't understand why, some people insist on disagreeing by either totally dismissing the topic or saying that people are too sensitive or easily offensive or here for a short time, and don't contribute. (Yeah, I noticed that) Frankly, if you are insinuating something, do as one person mentioned and say it.However, I'd like to re- emphasize my point was just EMPATHY. -so what, if there here for one day and gone the next -so what if you disagree - and that's great if you haven't noticed BUT, If it was irrelevant and un-founded I doubt people would even respond to it...So I wonder...... I think some people just want to be "right" and when other people are involved..there is no "right". Anyway..God Bless IP: Logged |
MainLine ModelD Knowflake Posts: 52 From: Philly, PA USA Registered: Mar 2008
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posted August 18, 2008 07:33 PM
In the spirit of pointing out...I'd like to address this quote from PeaceAngel:"i have noticed a pattern though. the ones that mainly complain and become hostile or most easily offended are the ones that are here for a short time - they post their charts, want to hear about themselves and then leave. no contribution to others' threads, no genuine interest in astrology or anyone else, or in friendship and socialising. most people are here in the name of fun, friendship and learning. and to me that's the spirit of the site" Funny how you mentioned ego...however, you fail to recognize how obnoxious and precocious that comment is. - As if there is a secret society of users, and that you are a "Real" user if you post a lot, or do this or do that. Sorry, but you sound like judge and jury. There are no requirements except being respectful...and signing up for an account...(atleast that's the impression I was under) Also, to say that people have no interest in Astrology? You might what to consider how daunting the topic can be and intimidating to someone who is interested. Perhaps they..like myself, read many of the topics to learn...but only post if something really puzzles them. Regardless, this is the attitude I was referring to, when I said people act snotty towards newbies..as if what they post is ridiculous. That's just my opinion though. I guess I have a couple thousand posts to go, before my opinion counts...(sorry, mercury in aries..I can't help the sarcasm, you may detect)but its intended..for emphasis. And please don't misunderstand me, I'm not the least bit sensitive when it comes to words. I love a good debate..and clash of opinion...but I felt the need to speak for others, because of what I noticed. However, I also don't like negative energy, and people going out of there way to knock somebody. IP: Logged |
ScorpioCentaur Knowflake Posts: 72 From: Montreal Registered: Jan 2007
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posted August 19, 2008 12:13 AM
Main,I totally agree with your post. I started a similar thread about a month ago and got attacked... There is a definite air of superiority, "i'm right-you're wrong", and some sort of value system placed on the number of posts someone has etc... According to myself, the frequency someone chooses to post should not incite judgment as to their value, interest in astrology and so forth in regards to this site. I am not saying all lindalanders are this way but there are a few of those "mega-posters" that can't wait to put their snide 2 cents in. Peace IP: Logged |
CoralFrequency Knowflake Posts: 1432 From: Registered: Feb 2007
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posted August 19, 2008 12:39 AM
quote: WHY'S EVERYBODY SO MAD???
quote: I haven't been on the threads since Feburary.
It's because you left! S'all your fault jk IP: Logged |
blue moon Moderator Posts: 4700 From: U.K Registered: Dec 2007
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posted August 19, 2008 03:07 AM
Miss Alice has part of the answer. 'Mad' as a word means something different to me than other posters. Coming from varying cultural backgrounds we are going to have different means of expression before we even get down to personality and astrological types. Some posters don't have English as their first language, and even if it is that doesn't mean we are always going express ourselves as well as we would like. Humour can be misunderstood. A bit more tolerance would be nice, but that would go for the world in general and I don't expect it to happen any time soon. Curse words get blanked out on LL so that is a clear indicator they are not acceptable. Personal attacks aren't acceptable either. But there is little that can be done to protect against misunderstandings and taking what someone says badly. I don't think it is possible to create the kind of environment where no-one ever gets offended. It certainly doesn't happen in day to day existence. IP: Logged |
deuxantares Knowflake Posts: 1197 From: Meet Me in Sofia Registered: Nov 2006
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posted August 19, 2008 04:45 AM
When we start a thread, let's be prepared to receive different kinds of responses ranging from irrelevant to sublime. it's like life, you cannot order the universe to deal you only the best cards, so be prepared for all possible scenarios and hope that you are able to handle them with enough strength and poise.if you don't get a response, "bump" your thread and say that it's really important to you. you may add more information, supporting data, a picture, a map or a chart to aid the potential responders. hello, let's not expect others to do the legwork for us, they are busy people. remember, this is a free site and people spend time and energy to help us. my observations: our "success" in a board/forum takes time. being here is like being in a relationship (or a community), it requires nurturing, knowing the other person/s and learning when/how to compromise. and the most important, it should be symbiotic and not a host-parasite relationship. yes, most of us are newbies (i can't even tell aspects yet without looking at my notes! ), but a one-liner, an anecdote, an observation, a comment or even a joke once in a while will show that you care enough about the "relationship". PEACE! IP: Logged | |