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Lara
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posted August 18, 2008 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Hey fellow knowflakes!

OK l am putting up this synastry that l have been working on to kill time and either i've lost my mind OR it really is pretty amazing...

Would you mind having a peek and giving your knowledgeable opinion on it all please? I included:
natal/natal
draco/craco
natal/draco
solstice/natal
Pluto/natal
Pluto/pluto (courtesy of VenusdeIndia)

Thanks guys x

ps. this guy is insanely into me and i'm just playing it cool.


His n sun trine my n AC (2)
His N sun square my N psyche (4)
His N psyche square my N sun (0)
His DR sun/NN opposes my DR moon(2) venus(2) Saturn(0) NN(1) Osiris(3) AC(2)
My PL sun square his N sun
My PL sun square his PL sun
My PL sun square his N mars
My PL sun square his N NN
my PL sun square his PL NN
My PL sun square his N eros
HIS PL sun square my n psyche

His N moon trine my N eros (4)
His N eros trine my N moon (3)
His n moon square my n juno (3) karma (1)
His n moon/venus square my n sun (2)
His DR moon conjunct my DR Osiris (2) AC (3)
His DR moon square my DR atlantis(2) cupido(0)
My dr moon opposes his N Pluto (3)
My PL moon square his Neptune
my PL moon/venus trine his PL karma

my n venus sextile his n mars (3)
His n venus/psyche square my n juno (2)
His n venus square my n karma (0)
His DR venus opposes my DR Osiris (2) AC (3)
His DR venus square my DR atlantis (2) venus (0)
His dr venus conjunct my n Pluto (2)
My PL venus sextile his N Pluto
My PL venus conjunct his N jupiter
My PL venus square his N kaali
His PL venus/vertex square my n karma / juno

His n mars square my n psyche (0)
His DR mars conjunct my DR moon (2) venus (0) NN (3) amor (1)
His dr mars opposite my N eros/vertex (0)
My dr mars opposes his N vertex (0)
His dr mars opposite my N eros/vertex (0
My PL mars conjunct his N Jupiter
my PL mars square his PL karma
My PL mars square his N Pluto
His PL mars trine my n moon / n venus / Saturn / NN
His PL mars square my n isis / psyche
My solstice mars conjunct his N venus
His solstice venus conjunct my n mars

His dr Saturn conjunct my N valentine (1)
His PL Saturn conjunct my n siva
my PL Saturn conjunct his PL AC

His dr Pluto conjunct my N psyche (4)
My solstice Pluto sextile his N venus
His solstice venus trine my n pluto

His n NN sextile my n NN (4)
His PL NN trine my n moon / Saturn / NN

His n Chiron conjunct my n Osiris (0) / AC (1)
My PL Chiron trine his N moon
my PL Chiron conjunct his PL valentine
My PL Chiron opposes his N valentine
My PL chiron trine his N chiron
his PL chiron opposes my n saturn / NN Osiris

His dr valentine conjunct my N mars/isis (3)
His DR valentine opposes my DR siva (3)
My PL valentine square his N kaali
his PL valentine opposes my n osiris

His n Osiris square my n isis (1)
His n Osiris sextile my n NN (3)
My n Osiris sextile his n NN (0)
His Dr Osiris conjunct my Dr amor (1)
His dr Osiris opposite my N vertex/eros (2)
My dr osiris opposes his N Pluto (2)
my PL Osiris conjunct his PL isis
My PL Osiris opposes his N isis
his PL Osiris square my n isis / Neptune
My PL Osiris sextile his PL Osiris
My PL Osiris trine his N Osiris
My PL Osiris conjunct his N siva
My PL Osiris conjunct his PL siva
My PL Osiris opposes his n AC
My PL Osiris conjunct his PL AC
MY GOD, LOOK AT ALL THOSE OSIRIS/ISIS HARD ASPECTS!!!!

His isis conjunct my moon (1) venus (0) Saturn (3) NN (3) amor (3)
His dr isis square my Dr valentine (1)
His dr isis opposes my N siva (2)
My dr isis opposes his N vertex (0)
My PL isis conjunct his N Neptune
My PL isis trine his N karma
his PL isis opposes my n moon / venus / Saturn / NN / amor
his PL isis square my n valentine
My PL isis square his PL karma

His n siva opposes my n moon (4) / venus (2) / amor (1)
His n siva square my n valentine (1)
His dr siva conjunct my N siva (0)

His N kaali square my N karma (2)
His N karma conjunct my N kaali (0)
His dr kaali conjunct my N Pluto (1)
My dr kaali conjunct his N venus (2)
My PL kaali opposes his n Mercury
his PL kaali square my n sun / juno / karma

His N eros square my N psyche (1)
His N psyche sextile my N eros (1)
His Dr eros opposes my Dr moon (0) venus (0) Saturn (2) NN (1) amor (3)
His Dr eros square my Dr valentine (1)
My PL eros opposes his PL Chiron
My PL eros conjunct his N chiron
My PL eros opposes his PL valentine
My PL eros conjunct his N valentine
*his PL eros square my n mars / isis / psyche

His N psyche square my N karma (0)
His Dr psyche opposes my Dr Osiris (3) AC (4) cupido (1)
His dr psyche conjunct my N Pluto (0)
My PL psyche square his n karma
My PL psyche opposes his N Jupiter
*his PL psyche square my n sun / mercury / karma / juno

His dr karma opposes my N Osiris (0)
His DR karma opposes my DR sun (3)
His DR karma conjunct my juno (2) DR karma (4)
My PL karma trine his n Pluto
his PL karma square my n kaali
My PL karma square his PL sun / PL NN / PL eros

His N AC conjunct my N venus (0)
My N AC trine his N venus (3)
(ruler of both 7th H’s)
My N AC sextile his N NN (0)
His N AC conjunct my N NN (3)
His AC conjunct my moon (2) amor (2) saturn (4) AC (3)
His Dr AC square my Dr Pluto (3) DNA (3)
His Dr AC conjunct my Dr Aphrodite (3)
My PL AC trine his n NN
My PL AC opposes his n chiron
His n AC square my n valentine (0)
My PL AC conjunct his PL Chiron / valentine
my PL AC opposes his n valentine
his PL AC opposes my n venus / amor

His Dr MC opposes my Dr Pluto (2)
His Dr MC conjunct my Dr DNA (1)

His dr juno conjunct my N eros/vertex (1)
His DR juno opposes my DR moon (4) venus (3) amor (0)
My PL juno square his PL sun / NN
my PL juno square his n sun / NN / eros / aphrodite
his PL juno square my n mars / isis

his n vertex opposes my n sun (0) mercury (0)
his n vertex conjunct my n juno (0)
my n vertex sextile his moon
His DR vertex conjunct my DR atlantis (1) MC (4)
His DR vertex opposes my DR cupido (1)
my PL vertex trine his n sun / eros / chiron
his PL vertex conjunct my sun / mercury
My PL vertex opposes his PL NN / valentine

His amor sextile my amor (0)
My dr amor conjunct his N valentine (3)
my PL amor square his n kaali / psyche / venus
his PL amor trine my amor / Jupiter / kaali
My PL amor opposes his PL vertex

His N lust opposes my N vertex (2)
My N lust trine his N vertex (2)

His n atlantis conjunct my n juno (1)
His n atlantis conjunct my n karma (3)
My n atlantis square his n Chiron (4)
His DR atlantis square my DR vertex (2) eros (3)

his n DNA conjunct my n juno (3)
his n DNA opposes my n sun (2)
his n DNA sextile my n atlantis (0)
His DR DNA conjunct my DR atlantis (3)
His DR DNA square my DR AC (2) Osiris (1)
His DR atlantis conjunct my DR atlantis (1) MC (1)

His n lust trine my n lust (2)
His n lust opposes my n eros (1)
His n lust conjunct my n Chiron (1)
My n lust conjunct his n kaali (3)

His Dr Aphrodite conjunct my Dr moon (4) Saturn (2) NN (3) Osiris (0) AC (0)

My N sun/moon midpoint square his N vesta (2)
My N venus/mars midpoint opposes exact his N vertex
My N venus/mars midpoint square his N moon (1)

My solstice DNA conjunct his N AC
My solstice valentine trine his n moon / sextile his n venus


DOUBLE WHAMMY’S
His N kaali square my N karma (2)
His N karma conjunct my N kaali (0)

My dr mars opposes his N vertex (0)
His dr mars opposite my N vertex (0)

*His N AC conjunct my N venus (0)
*My N AC trine his N venus (3)
(ruler of both 7th H’s)

*My N AC sextile his N NN (0)
*His N AC conjunct my N NN (3)

His N lust opposes my N vertex (2)
My N lust trine his N vertex (2)

His N sun square my N psyche (4)
His N psyche square my N sun (0)

His N moon trine my N eros (4)
His N eros trine my N moon (3)

His N eros square my N psyche (1)
*His N psyche sextile my N eros (1)

My solstice mars conjunct his N venus
His solstice venus conjunct my n mars

My solstice Pluto sextile his N venus
His solstice venus trine my n pluto

His N sun/moon midpoint conjunct exact my N psyche
My N venus/mars midpoint square exact his N psyche

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Lara
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posted August 18, 2008 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
oops... l meant to say ASTEROID lovers !

(freudian olympic slip)

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darkdreamer
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posted August 19, 2008 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry, Lara, but I can`t get through all of these aspects.


Maybe if you first only looked at the natals including the asteroids Amor (unconditional love), Psyche (soullove), Eros (passion) and Anteros (mutual love), along with Karma (past lives) and Destinn (this life`s direction, destiny).

And then in a second step you could add the Draconics, and only in a third step the Plutonics (we are still experimenting with them and don`t know if they really are that reliable).

Also, I think the house positions would be important.

oh btw I resent that mail.

It`s just stupid of me, I first typed your name wrongly and I think someonelse received a long, weird mail today, too. OUCH. How embarassing. But luckily this someone will now know me.

DD

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darkdreamer
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posted August 19, 2008 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
I meant "that someone does NOT know me."

What is wrong with me today. I`m thinking one thing and typing something completely different.

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Lara
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posted August 20, 2008 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
ok thanks DD,
I will separate them out and list my analysis

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koiflower
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posted August 20, 2008 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message

omg - i thought you 'resented' Lara's email, as in 'extreme dislike'

oh no, i thought - this is going to be another "mad" thread..

but then i realised that you had to 'resend' the email


can you believe i teach reading??!!!!


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Lara
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posted August 20, 2008 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
LOL

Happy Birthday Koiflower! xxx

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venusdeindia
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posted August 20, 2008 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusdeindia     Edit/Delete Message
who is this guy ?

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Lara
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posted August 20, 2008 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
hey VenusdeIndia,

Someone who just sprung into my path ad I was minding my own business!

May I ask why you ask please? Do you see something? Thanks x

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darkdreamer
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posted August 20, 2008 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
"Someone who just sprung into my path ad I was minding my own business"

Does his Eros aspect your Pluto?
Your sentence reminded me so much of the Eros-Pltuo-story.

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posted August 20, 2008 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
no Eros/Pluto aspects
We have these Eros DW's though
Eros/moon
Eros/mars
Eros/Saturn
Eros/psyche
Eros/Eros

Plus single
Eros - Venus, nn, vertex, Juno, Osiris, Isis aspects.

Maybe it's karma conjunct karma exact, Osiris/Isis square, valentine sextile valentine exact or lust trine lust?

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posted August 20, 2008 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
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darkdreamer
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posted August 20, 2008 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Nope I was specifically looking for the Eros-Pluto aspects. Not even in Draco?

It is said that Pluto was walking along, minding his own business, never wanting to fall in love, when Eros hit him with his arrow, and solitude-seeking Pluto fell desperately and passionately in love with Persephone.

I sometimes experienced that, too, being Pluto in an Eros-Pluto-aspect, being completely surprised by an attraction.

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posted August 20, 2008 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta-sister     Edit/Delete Message
DD, do you think that would work if your persephone fell directly on thier pluto ?

Also, noticed your name on Kim's site I am waiting to get in so I can ask a few questions.

I also needed to ask you about the semisquare and the effect in synastry and midpoints? Not sure if it will work well or go the other way? plus what is your take on a yod in the composite?

Sorry, so many questions just had a lot on my mind recently.

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posted August 20, 2008 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
oh well ok, in Draco we have
His Eros semi sextile my Pluto exact
My Eros sextile his Pluto (2)

would that do it?


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posted August 20, 2008 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Persephone / Pluto - yes that might of course do it. But there`s a dangerous quality to it, a very dark one.

After all Pluto was so obsessed with her that he abducted her into the underworld and raped her.
On the other hand Persephone is also said to have eaten the seed of the pomegranate down there, voluntarily (I don`t need to translate the symbolism of the seed, do I` .
She was a goddess so she KNEW, if she ate something there, she would have to stay there. Also, Pluto actually made her queen of the underworld and unlike his two brothers he seems to have been a rather faithful husband. He was just not interested in anyone else but his queen. Actually they were equal partners then.


The one who really mourned was Proserpina`s mother Ceres, from whom Pluto had taken Proserpina.
But I also read that there was a psychological need for Persephone / Proserpina to be "taken" to dissolve the too close ties to her mother.
In a way the Proserpina myth represents the growing up and awakening of an own sexual Self in a woman. She needs to leave that tight mother-child-relationship to become a woman herself. She obviously needed a bit of persuasion to do that, change the Status Quo, and in the myth it is pictured a bit drastic.
Also, it`s not always said that Pluto raped her (I really detest the thought), but in some versions he abducted her, married her without too many objections from her side. So, it`s definitely interesting to look at that couple.

Persephone: 399
Proserpina: 26

Funny enough there are some aspects between Ceres, Pluto and Persephone / Proserpina in my synastry.

My Ceres conjunct his dr Persephone
my Ceres opposite his dr Proserpina
my Pluto opposing his Ceres
my Pluto trine his Proserpina
my Persephone opposing his dr Persephone
my Proserpina exactly sextile his Pluto
my dr Proserpina conjunct his Ceres
my Ceres exactly antiscion his Pluto

Did you notice the dw on Pluto / Proserpina?
And on Pluto / Ceres?


Shocking, I just realized in the composite there is Proserpina conjunct Venus in 12th house exactly squaring Pluto in 8th house. This really looks like a trip to the underworld. lol

And Eros at the IC has an exact trine to Venus and Proserpina in 12th and an exact quinkunx to Pluto in 8th.

And Cupido is exactly conjunct Amor and both are conjunct Mars and NN, widely conjunct Pluto (5).

BTW composite Cupido, Amor and NN happen to fall exactly onto his natal PLuto and Anteros and DR ASC with composite Mars conjuncting it.
Whereas it is square my ERos and Vertex and Sun-Moon-midpoint and exactly sextile my Proserpina.
Oh well...

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posted August 20, 2008 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

I`m not so keen on semisextile and sextile in Draco. But maybe that will do it, or has anyone of you Eros in the other ones 8th house or in aspect with the 8th house ruler or a planet in 8th house?

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posted August 20, 2008 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
ok I dig, thanks DD - SO interesting but yes, scary dark

Ok his Eros is in my 6th and my Eros is in his 6th.
In equal his Eros is now in my 5th along with sun/Venus/Juno/psyche!

His 8th ruler is Scorpio. So is mine. Pluto is also in rack others 6th's!

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posted August 20, 2008 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
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posted August 20, 2008 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
So, Pluto and Eros are in the same sign or house?

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posted August 20, 2008 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta-sister     Edit/Delete Message
Well, we have ceres conjunct ceres.
as well as many other aspects.

In looking at the solar returns ect...
I noticed that my progressed sun is sitting on natal venus and his solar arc venus is right there along with his solar arc sun and moon and natal mercury.

One thing I never noticed before is that his eros/psyche midpoint sits directly on his NN wich is directly square my NN and directly trine my AC.
Plus I discovered that our moon/ verte conjunction falls in direct opposition his sun/moon mid and aphrodite. Conjunction in the seventh house ruler of seventh house is mercury and mine is conjunct his AC.

Looked up point of facination for him - directly on my DC.

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posted August 20, 2008 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Great progressed aspects, Vesta - sister.

My crush and me also have tight connections with DSC-ruler. In our case it`s his DSC-ruler conjunt my ASC by 2° (my DSC ruler conjuncts his ASC-ruler and some more aspects like that). Oh DSC-ruler is also Mercury.

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posted August 20, 2008 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
my Eros 4' libra
His Eros 16' Leo

Same houses in equal system.

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posted August 21, 2008 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta-sister     Edit/Delete Message
DD,

after looking a little closer at the charts (solar) I noticed that he has my name (solar) conjunct his solar venus and siting directly on his solar valentine 10.51 exact! and this is also conjunct my natal venus, juno and ASC (solar amor on my ASC) right next to his solar sun moon conjunction and I discovered a few other things as well.

My solar ASC has progressed to his natal ASC with my solar venus, mercury, and uranus.

In my chart his solar name falls on my natal sun.

My solar vertex conjunct his natal vertex.


He also has my solar name progressed to my natal IC wich is his vertex/sun midpoint.(also where his name sits in my chart natal)
asteroid (my name is first and last)

connections with his (midpoints)
all conjunctions (1-2 deg orb only)


vertex/venus (progressed) my solar NN

vertex/ moon (progressed) solar juno

vertex/sun (Natal) my IC

vertex/ceres (natal) my solar mars

vertex/juno (progressed) moon, MC

vertex/eros (natal) conj my vertex

ceres/venus (natal) conj ceres

ceres/merc (natal) conj my juno

ceres/sun (natal) conj my ASC

ceres/juno (natal) conj my jupiter.



Caroll Wills said she likes the ceres midpoint conjunctions for care and comfort.
and tha vertex midpoint conjunctions for those special relationship connections.

she uses only 1 deg orb conjunctions.

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posted August 21, 2008 04:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
we have
Pr sun trine his pr mars
My pr Venus trine his pr mars
My pr mars square his pr sun
My pr mars trine his pr mars

My pr karma trine his pr moon
My pr valentine conjunct his n kaali exact/psyche
My pr vertex conjunct his n DNA/vertex exact
My pr vertex square his n psyche exact
My pr vesta conjunct his n Chiron/AC
My pr vesta trine his n sun/Eros
My pr valentine trine his n Venus
My pr valentine square his n Venus


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