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posted August 25, 2008 09:31 PM         

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A guy I was involved with and fell for basically left me hanging, broke up w/ me for no good reason..so I started to move on. Today I really felt myself moving past...and then, out of the blue, he talks to me. He found out I was getting over him, and now he's trying to hold on. And in the most manipulative way..asking for sex, sex, sex..

He's a Pisces sun, Taurus moon, Aquarius Venus & Mars. He did the typical Aquarian detachment thing..so what the hell is he doing now? Between us we have a lot of Plutonian energy..that Pluto-Venus conjunction, Pluto-Mars trine, we both have Pluto conjunct our ASC. My Pluto opposes his Moon. Yeah. Not that fun, but really really intense.

Is this something to be expected from someone like him..is Pisces this wishy washy? How do I avoid the manipulation game..it IS easier said than done, anyone with this type of attraction would agree..

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Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moon

Mercury:: Sagittarius
Venus::Scorpio
Mars::Pisces

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posted August 25, 2008 09:37 PM         

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The fact that he is an Aqu might make him detach, the fact that he has pluto on the ASC would mean that he won't be able to detach, it has coloured him with a sco element. I am the same, I have aqu sun and pluto on the DC and I don't detach easily even though I appear to.

In aspects, where he is pluto means that he won't be able to detach easily, he is the one who will be the obsessive partner.

Sounds like plutonic stuff to me, the sex bit is his plutonic way of holding on. Whether its negative or not, I dont know, you would be able to interpret.

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posted August 25, 2008 10:26 PM         

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He is the Pluto in both the Pluto-Venus and Pluto-Mars...yet I find myself being extremely attached and obsessive..although that is hard to distinguish, whether it's those aspects playing out or the fact that my Venus and ASC are in Scorpio which would naturally make me obsessive about a lot of things (which i am). Or both. yikes.

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posted August 25, 2008 10:28 PM         

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Well you lust him (mars), you love him and enthralled by him (mars). He obsesses over you and is secretive with you (pluto) but the fact that your venus is in sco makes you obsessively enthralled.

Depending on what type of aspects they are will determine how you feel, eg squ, uncomfortable but excited etc

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posted August 26, 2008 12:07 AM         

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I wouldnt blame everything on Pluto...heck to some people, Pluto isnt even valid anymore because it was demoted. Personally I think Pluto needs to be within 2-3 degrees for it to be significant. But anyways, there could other factors besides "pluto"...maybe something 12th, or 4th house related. His mars is in your 4th? sounds to me hes emotionally aggressive torwards your emotions, this aspect can be very painful or very hypnotizing depending on what kind of relationship youre seeking and how your synastry plays out between you 2. I just hate to see all the blame rest on Pluto, although Im sure it doesnt help...

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posted August 26, 2008 12:17 AM         

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Well no, not everything is dependent on pluto. But the topic was framed around pluto so for myself, I could only respond in terms of pluto. There are other aspects and transits going on for sure plus the other bits of synastry. But maybe Augentier might be right, it is a highly plutonic relationship, or it least appears to me.

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posted August 26, 2008 10:01 PM         

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yeah, i know pluto is not always the bad guy..i just feel this extremely strong pull..and this is definitely a relationship in which we are both evolving..personally, and with each other..

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