posted August 28, 2008 10:24 PM         

Apparently he was into drugs, too. I haven't seen or talked to him in years. I just remembered that he had the same birthday as me, and almost the same time.

posted August 28, 2008 10:37 PM         

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

posted August 29, 2008 12:05 AM         

Also, you may work compulsively and exhaust yourself through overwork. You can be a tyrant with co-workers, and it may be easier for you to work in solitude.

...Maybe he was so obessessed with self-improvement and psychoanalyzing himself that he couldn't take it anymore.

posted August 29, 2008 01:44 PM         

His chart:

posted August 29, 2008 02:13 PM         

His choices with the astrological blueprint and the energies awarded to him in this lifetime were his choices. You chose and still choose to use your energies in a different manner.

posted August 29, 2008 03:17 PM         

BUT how many people think about that when reading a chart? It's really above any astrologers capability, thus rendering astrology kind of useless.

Maybe I'm just in one of those black or white type moods that are so typical of moon/pluto aspects....?

posted August 29, 2008 03:47 PM         

I`m very sorry about your friend.

Astrologically speaking the Transpersonal astrology in Germany would observe something like that:

° his Pluto exactly on his 6th house cusp
- in this astrological system the 6th house is not only the house of health and work, but more so the house of expressing your emotions and even more so how you modify your emotional expression to adapt to your environment, which can lead to an almost fantatical observation of one`s own feelings and how others react to them. With Pluto here this can get obsessive. Also it can mean that a person expresses their feelings in a very dramatic, uncompromising way; or at the other end he could alsso bottle up his feelings and suppress them, until they explode out of him

° Mars as ruler of 11st house is very close to the DSC
- prone to very impulsive actions (Mars on DC) as a tool of liberation (rules 11th house, which also can point to liberation and freedom)

° this Mars also opposes Chiron on the ASC; in extreme cases this could indeed point to someone who is able of impulsively (Mars) hurting (Chiron) himself (AC) (this is just ONE way this aspect can be expressed)

(BTW you have Saturn as ruler of 8th house on your DSC - a completely different situation. The 8th likes things, including life, to be longlasting. And Saturn is not prone to impulsive actions).

° Venus, as the ruler of his 12th house is not only placed at the end of a sign, but also at the end of a house - that must feel like being stuck between two doors. I guess it definitely points to emotional stress.

But after all is said and analysed, I agree that the soul chooses how she or he expresses the potential (all these constellations could have been expresed differently and in much more healthy ways)

posted August 29, 2008 04:27 PM         

As for Pluto in 6th - I have this and although I love to anslyse it would not drive me to destruction of self.

posted August 29, 2008 07:41 PM         

I'm really sorry to hear about the loss of your friend.

I think what jumped out at me was the geometry. Your friend has T Square and air trine while you have a trapezoid.

Transiting Pluto is conjunct both of your Saturn/Uranus and square both of your Venus.

The geometry may show a difference as to how the energy would flow/effect each of you as individuals.

posted August 29, 2008 07:52 PM         

Pluto = Saturn/Ascendant. That means that Pluto is conjunct his Saturn Ascendant midpoint (I am calling the Descendant the "Ascendant" for now because it is an axis, a circle and it sometimes acts the same). It translates as:

"Violent upset; deep anguish; being put down by others."

It probably had a whole lot to do with relationships or a particular relationship in his life. Since Saturn rules his 8th house of death and Pluto has been transiting over and over it and Pluto is now sitting almost exactly on his Ascendant/Descendant axis...

It was MUCH TOO MUCH pressure, hard work and loss for him to bare. I feel terrible for the guy. Stressful Saturn-Pluto aspects are THE most difficult aspects. There are many people on this forum who have been dealing with Pluto transiting back and forth over their Ascendants over the last year because they have it in the later degrees of Sagittarius.

Pluto-Saturn aspects don't always mean death, but it always means very, very hard work and sometimes that hard work just comes to loss, but for some reason you learn the biggest lessons from that aspect when it occurs. You don't always understand it right away, but you eventually do. It's like breaking down muscle before you can build it up again. It really all depends on how your individual chart is set up.

I guess I'm trying to say that this doesn't mean that you are going to commit suicide, it is just meant to show you that time of a chart is of tremendous importance and you can now see for yourself why it potentially hasn't affected you the same way.

I was friends with a man who's actual twin brother killed himself when they were both 24 years old. His brother was born 15 minutes after he was and he was diagnosed schitzophrenic at the age of 24. He couldn't handle the medication and he stopped taking it. He couldn't handle whatever the illness was doing to him when he stopped taking it and he killed himself shortly after the diagnosis.

I'm so sorry to hear about your friend.

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posted August 30, 2008 11:59 AM         

SS: I'm not sure what he was doing. I don't think he was in school.