posted August 29, 2008 07:36 PM            

3 decanates make up a sign, 4 dwads make up a decanate. 12 dwads make up a sign such that a dwad is 2.5 deg in length. Go the front page for the aries dwad. The first dwad for a sign is always the native sign and then it follows in chronological order. So the first 2.5 deg of aries is aries, the next 2.5 deg is taurus and so forth. Likewise with decanates, they rule 10 degree parts of a sign and follow in a chronological order such that the first decanate is the native sign.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decan

For those who want to join in, make a list of all your planets and major points and class them into what decanate and dwad they fall in. Do you see any pattern, does it reflect the truth to you?

Then if you have a loved one, do the same with their planets/major points and compare the dwads of the various synastry aspects. Again, do you see any pattern, does it reflect the truth to you?

posted August 30, 2008 12:30 AM            

Cancer dwad Scorpio Sun
Gem dwad Libra Moon
Taurus dwad Scorpio Merc
Leo dwad Scorpio Venus
Aries dwad Capricorn Mars
Sag dwad Leo Asc

posted August 30, 2008 01:13 AM              

* Taurus sun, Taurus decanate, not sure whether 5.30 counts as Gemini or Cancer dwad... I think it might be Cancer.
* Scorpio moon, Pisces decanate, Pisces dwad
* Sagittarius rising, Leo decanate, Scorpio dwad

So for those first big three, we're looking at a grand water trine of dwads... lol.

* Venus in Gemini, Libra decanate, Scorpio dwad
* Mercury in Taurus, Virgo decanate, Libra dwad
* Mars in Pisces, Cancer decanate, Cancer dwad
* Jupiter in Aries, Aries decanate, Cancer dwad
* Saturn in Cancer, Scorpio decanate, Sagittarius dwad

* Gemini DSC, Aquarius decanate, Taurus dwad
* Leo MC, Aries decanate, Cancer dwad
* Aquarius IC, Libra decanate, Capricorn dwad

Oookaaay... this is interesting! What strikes me the most is that most of my placements are in water dwads. I'm already a grand water trine. A lot of them are Cancer dwads, which is odd because I don't think of myself as Cancerian (my only personal planet in Cancer is Saturn, which I don't really feel represents any Cancerian qualities in me). Of all the water signs, Cancer feels the most unlike me. So that is odd. Maybe it's that there's a little unconscious Cancerian part of me that wants to stay in its shell, and I protect myself from the vulnerability that I associate with Cancer with the sometimes extreme reactions of my Scorpio moon and/or I can tune out via my Mars in Pisces and Neptune in 12th.

Libra dwad of Mercury Taurus made a little light bulb pop up over my head, as I love it when guys have Mercury in Libra - I find it really attractive!

Taurus dwad of Gemini DSC made me laugh for some reason. Somehow, yes it's there.

The Sag dwad of Saturn in Cancer seems at odds with itself, and that's true. I think I'm at odds with wanting security in relationships, and also wanting freedom.

The Scorpio dwads make complete sense to me, there is definitely that dimension to my ASC and Venus. However, my Pluto squares my ASC and trines my Venus, so it's like a double dose of Scorpy energy.

posted August 30, 2008 02:19 AM            

I was thinking about this in terms of appearance but I could see it applying to all areas of life, why not? Yes Sco Web, it is very minute but I think that maybe this might be an area that is sorely neglected.

I was thinking that maybe the astro theory to appearance using dwads is:
* Rising sign, its decanate, its dwad
* Ruler of rising sign, its decanate and its dwad
* The depositor of the dwad of the ruling planet, and then looking to see its sign, decanate and dwad
* All planets in the first house, their sign, decanate, their dwad
* The despositors of these planets, their sign, decanate and their dwad

EDIT - planets in exaltation or domicile in the 1st may have a greater impact on appearance.

Of course this process can be reiterated over and over again but I'd stick to the initial planet and analysis of its depositor.

Here's a few appearance things for it to be tested on:

Example 1
Marilyn Monroe
http://famous-relationships.topsynergy.com/Marilyn_Monroe/AstroData.asp
http://www.flickr.com/photos/seattletim/458346261/

Rising - 13"05 Leo
Neptune (1st house) - 22"13' Leo
Ruler of rising is sun - 10"27' Gemini
Ruler of Neptune is sun - 10"27' Gemini

Rising - leo - decanate sag - dwad cap
Neptune - leo - decanate aries - dwad aries
Sun - gemini- decanate libra - dwad libra

Can you see all those elements in her?

Example 2
Elvis Presley
http://famous-relationships.topsynergy.com/Elvis_Presley/AstroData.asp

Rising - Sag 12"22'
Ruler of rising is Jupiter - Sco 18"04

Rising - Sag - Aries decanate - Aries
Jupiter - Sco - Pisces decanate - Aries

Now look to the sign of the dwad and the sign of the planet/point. Describe each one, does it look like you?

GL - I'd take it strict myself. So anything that is on the dot of a decanate change is the new decanate sign. 5"30 Tau sun would be the third dwad, cancer.

EDIT - dwads may have something to do with the power of an aspect as well. Take for example Mars at 29 deg aries squ Saturn at 29 Cancer.

Mars - aries/sagittarius/pisces
Saturn - cancer/scorpio/gemini

Then look to see where neptune is and moon to see the full flavour of the aspect.

posted August 30, 2008 02:22 AM              

I once started a thread on them, too. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/014631.html

They really differentiate the sign your planet is in.

I`m not too thrilled with the decanates, as they will only highlight the same element; whereas Dwads can fall anywhere, they are actually their own little zodiac.

Will have another look later.

EDIT:

posted August 30, 2008 02:24 AM            

Take a look at the Aries Appearance thread too, I did a dwad study yesterday and there are some VERY strong appearance themes happening. I'm going to add some more later.

Thanks for contributing!
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/018812.html

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Here's me in terms of appearance, I have to look at the rest later:

Asc 15-21 Aries - libra dwad
Ruler of ASC - Venus in 26-07 Sag - libra dwad

Jup 17-51 Aries - Sco (Jupiter in 1st)
Rulier of Jupiter - Pluto in 11-41 Libra - Aqu dwad

(Chiron 23-45 Aries - Cap dwad (Chiron in 1st)
Ruler of chiron - Saturn - 29-18 Cancer - Gemini dwad)

Mars 14-46 Aries - Sco dwad
Ruler of Mars: Pluto in 11-41 Libra - Aqu dwad

So I'm composed of Aries, Sag, Sco, Gem, Aqu and Libra. Oddly these are all the elements that were used when describing my appearance using "normal" astrology on the rising thread!

posted August 30, 2008 05:48 AM              

We both have Sag-Sun in the Libra Dwad.

My Moon in Aquarius - his Sun in Libra Dwad

My Moon in Leo Dwad - his Sun in Sagittarius

- those are actually nice connections to have especially since my Sun conjuncts his Moon and his Sun septiles my Moon (a minor aspect I know)

My Venus in Capricorn in Pisces Dwad; his Venus in Capricorn in Scorpio Dwad
- definitely another nice thing to have

My Venus in PIsces Dwad, his Mars in Virgo.
my Venus in Capricorn, his mars in Capricorn Dwad

- NOW that is definitely some shocking revelation
- we already have a weak trine of his Mars to my Venus with 5° and maybe the Dwads strengthen its effect?

my Venus in Pisces Dwad, his SN and ASC in Pisces.

my Mars in SAg, his Pluto in Gemini Dwad;
his Mars in Cap Dwad, my Pluto in Cap Dwad

my Vertex in Pisces Dwad, his SN, Antivertex and ASC in Pises

his Vertex in Leo Dwad, my Moon in Aquarius in Leo Dwad

my ASC in SAg, his ASC in Sag Dwad
his ASC in Pisces, my Venus, ERos and Vertex in Pisces Dwad

my Eros in Pisces Dwad, his Eros (and SN, Antivertex) and ASC in Pisces

his Eros in Gemini Dwad, my Sun and Mars in SAg and my SN and DSC in Gemini

posted August 30, 2008 09:11 AM            

I promised myself I'm not spending much time online today cause I have much work to do! Once again, you've posted an offer I can't refuse...lol!

AC:

Libra, Gem. Decan, Gem dwad!!! (Does this surprise you?)

Sun:

Pisces, Scorpio decan, Capricorn dwad (Interesting that I also have Mars in Scorp in the first house, Pluto widely opp sun, and Sun conj Saturn!)

Moon:

Gemini, Libra decan, Libra dwad!!!

(There must have been a sale on Gem/Libra the day I was born! A 2 for 1! Or since they're both dual signs...a 4 for 2? )

Venus:

Aries, Sag decan, Aqua dwad

Mars:

Scorpio, Scorpio Decan, Scorpio Dwad

8th

posted August 30, 2008 09:25 AM              

And yes very much Gemini / Libra. I like it.

23,

" Rising sign, its decanate, its dwad
* Ruler of rising sign, its decanate and its dwad
* The depositor of the dwad of the ruling planet, and then looking to see its sign, decanate and dwad
* All planets in the first house, their sign, decanate, their dwad
* The despositors of these planets, their sign, decanate and their dwad"

* ASC in Sagittarius, Sagittarius-decan, Aquarius-Dwad

* chartruler in Pisces, Cancer Decan, Cancer Dwad

* what do you mean by dispositor of the Dwad of the ruling planet? Do oyu mean something like:
My ASC in Sagittarius; ruler Jupiter in Cancer Dwad, so Moon would be the dispositer of the Cancer Dwad of my chartruler?

well in that case:
Moon in Aquarius, Gemini decan, Leo Dwad

* 1st house planets:
- Sun in Sagittarius, Leo Decan, Libra Dwad
- Mercury in Sagittarius, Leo-Decan, Libra Dwad
- Venus in Capricorn, Cap-Decan, Pisces Dwad
- Neptune in Sagittarius, Sag-Decan, Pisces Dwad

* Dispositor of my SAg-planets in 1st house:
Jupiter in Pisces, Cancer Decan, Cancer Dwad

posted August 30, 2008 11:38 AM            

Sun: Aquarius
Gemini decan, Virgo dwad

Moon: Libra
Gemini decan, Cancer dwad

Mercury (chart ruler): Aquarius
Libra decan, Scorpio dwad

Venus: Pisces
Scorpio decan, Aquarius dwad

Mars: Sagittarius
Leo decan, Leo dwad

posted August 30, 2008 04:26 PM              

ASC: Scorpio / Cancer decan
Dwad: Virgo - cj. my natal Venus and S.N.

SUN: Cancer / Pisces decan
Dwad: Aries - cj. my natal Chiron

Moon: Sagittarius / Leo decan
Dwad: Virgo - cj. my natal Venus and S.N.

Mercury: Leo / Leo decan
Dwad: Virgo

Venus: Virgo / Virgo decan
Dwad: Libra

Mars: Cancer / Pisces decan
Dwad: Gemini

Jupiter: Libra / Gemini decan
Dwad: Leo

Saturn: Taurus / Capricorn decan
Dwad: Capricorn - cj. my natal Eros

Chiron: Aries / Leo decan
Dwad: Leo - cj. my natal Mercury

Juno: Taurus / Taurus decan
Dwad: Gemini

Vertex: Cancer / Scorpio decan
Dwad: Scorpio - cj. my natal Aphrodite

North Node: Pisces / Pisces decan
Dwad: Aries - cj. my natal Amor

So - the dwads are conjuncting some of my "love relevant" chart-points mostly (Venus, Eros, Amor, Aphrodite...) Since my natal Venus is cj. SN as well - that could be one more hint that my (strange!) love life is linked to "past karma" - or what?

posted August 31, 2008 06:05 PM            

quote:

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Likewise with decanates, they rule 10 degree parts of a sign and follow in a chronological order such that the first decanate is the native sign.

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Is that true, or do they go in triplicity order like the wikipedia site says?

Sun Capricorn 5°16'40
Capricorn Decanate - Pisces Dwad (right?)

Moon Virgo 29°35'09
Taurus Decanate - Leo Dwad (ooh, interesting...Moon is in the 5th)
So Venus rules the decan (because it's the Taurus decan)? Interesting that my Moon is on the cusp of Libra.

Ascendant Gemini 2°53'38
Gemini Decanate - Cancer Dwad

Mercury Sagittarius 17°17'54
Aries Decanate - Gemini Dwad

Venus Sagittarius 10°10'47
Aries Decanate - Aries Dwad

Mars Scorpio 27°27'50
Cancer Decanate - Virgo Dwad

Jupiter Capricorn 16°38'36
Taurus Decanate - Cancer Dwad

Saturn Gemini 15°40'09
Libra Decanate - Sagittarius Dwad
It's interesting that Saturn opposes Mercury, and both of their dwads are also in opposite signs.

Uranus Libra 22°36'30
Gemini Decanate - Gemini Dwad

Neptune Sagittarius 6°04'02
Sagittarius Decanate - Aquarius Dwad

Pluto Libra 4°23'45
Libra Decanate - Scorpio Dwad

True Node Capricorn 16°51'40
Taurus Decanate - Cancer Dwad

MC Aquarius 13°41'56
Gemini Decanate - Cancer Dwad

Ok, now onto looks. You're taking the Ascendant plus any 1st house planets?

Rising - 2°53'38 Gemini
Saturn (1st house) - 15°40'09 Gemini
Ruler of rising is Mercury - 17°17'54 Sagittarius
Ruler of Saturn is Mercury - 17°17'54 Sagittarius

Rising (Gemini) - Gemini Decanate - Cancer Dwad
Saturn (Gemini) - Libra Decanate - Sagittarius Dwad
Mercury (Sagittarius) - Aries Decanate - Gemini Dwad

posted September 02, 2008 03:11 AM            

AG - I think it worked for you!

posted September 02, 2008 09:29 AM            

*Sun sign Ruler* Moon: Virgo (7th House)
Decanate: Virgo
Dwad: Libra
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Mercury: Cancer (6th House)
Decanate: Scorpio
Dwad: Capricorn
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Venus: Leo (7th House)
Decanate: Aries
Dwad: Taurus
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Mars: Cancer (6th House)
Decanate: Pisces
Dwad: Aries
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Jupiter: Libra (8th House)
Decanate: Gemini
Dwad: Leo
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Saturn: Taurus (3rd House)
Decanate: Virgo
Dwad: Sagittarius
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* Chart Ruler* Uranus: Libra (8th House)
Decanate: Libra
Dwad: Scorpio
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Neptune: Scorpio (10th House)
Decanate: Cancer
Dwad: Libra
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Pluto: Virgo (8th House)
Decanate: Taurus
Dwad: Gemini
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ASC: Aquarius
Decanate: Gemini
Dwad: Leo
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DSC: Leo
Decanate: Sagittarius
Dwad: Aquarius
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MC: Scorpio
Decanate: Cancer
Dwad: Libra
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IC: Taurus
Decanate: Capricorn
Dwad: Aries
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NNode: Pisces (1st House)
Decanate: Pisces
Dwad: Aries
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SNode: Virgo (7th House)
Decanate: Virgo
Dwad: Libra
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Chiron: Aries (2nd House)
Decanate: Leo
Dwad: Leo
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posted September 02, 2008 09:36 PM            

He looks SO much like a Libra to me. I know a few Libra men who he resembles strongly. (Don't get me wrong, I see his Cap too.)

But...his strongest sign according to Pullen (and to 8th... ) is Libra.

What's the skinny?