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Unmoved
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posted September 02, 2008 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Hi All

As the topic says, I am annoyed - and den'sum... but the catch is, there is nothing that triggered it to my knowledge, unless of course I am in denial about whatever happened today that annoyed me.

I was fine yesterday. Actually, I started cracking yesterday where I just wanted to be alone, where people's voices were just a little louder than I can take, where I made it a point to avoid people. Today, the irritability is full blown.

Nothing caused it. The only thing I did that was different from all the other "happy" days was that I had a tot of gin as part of a ritual ceremony (don't ask), and maybe I haven't eaten as much as I should... I dunno.

Here's my chart below. I see a lot of 12th House action from transiting planets that could cause me to be like this, but it's not like they started transiting my 12th house yesterday - which makes me think that it might be the tMoon up to no good by doing a number on my nMoon. (??)

Could you please tell me what transits make people annoyed for no apparent reason?

Thank You.

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"I am certainly not one of those who need to be prodded. In fact, if anything, I am the prod." Winston Churchill.

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Happy Dragon
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posted September 02, 2008 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
t.Mars squaring natal Lillith is one possibility ..

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Unmoved
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posted September 02, 2008 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks HD.
That could be it.

I just noticed that tUranus went retrograde and it is opposing my nSun again.

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Happy Dragon
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posted September 02, 2008 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Happy Dragon     Edit/Delete Message
*** I just noticed that tUranus went retrograde and it is opposing my nSun again. ***
that transit in itself is known to be linked to potential temper tantrums :-) ..

i'm fairly prone to 'angry days' .. and it's usually a Mars transit that sparks it ..
weird thing is .. i've began to notice my temper level is much much worse under certain minor aspect type transits from Mars .. i had one of them recently .. it was aspecting natal Pluto .. .. i was literally in a murderous mood for a couple of days ..

anyhow .. a 'hard' Mars transit .. when one is allready under an outer planet transit of a challenging nature .. well .. in short .. it will have a tendency to 'trigger' the outer planet transit ..
.. if that makes any sense ..

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on the other hand .. and totally off topic .. maybe it's all in ones genetic makeup ..
'Commitment phobes can blame genes'
~ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/health/7593301.stm ~

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Unmoved
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posted September 02, 2008 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
I like the article. I believe it actually.
I could be genetically moody but I am not aggressive, I think.

Strangely, referring to the temper tantrum thing, people wouldn't believe that I can't raise my voice loudly. I usually tell someone his/her apples with the same tone that I would say "That's nice". Passive aggression is what it is, I suppose.

Right now, I am rolling my eyes a lot because it seems like everything I hear, I have heard before. I keep saying, "Not this **** again!" I am getting a larger number of people with issues talking to me and I feel so bad because in my mind I am just screaming, "SHUT UP!" I also have this very jaded unimpressed look on my face. That's why I am keeping to myself today.

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Kick It
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posted September 02, 2008 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kick It     Edit/Delete Message
All them planets in your 12th you mentioned and it could be that.

Its also your birthday coming up. You know what some women are like about their age!
Not that I want to remind you.

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Unmoved
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posted September 02, 2008 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
re:birthday thing. Yeah, my birthdays always suck but if it's that then it's subconscious.

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Kick It
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posted September 02, 2008 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kick It     Edit/Delete Message
Doesnt seem like much besides the 12th house stuff you mentioned. 12th house can indicate a period of isolation, to rest and recharge.
A little bit of what you described.

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mblover
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posted September 02, 2008 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mblover     Edit/Delete Message
With Sun Conj Saturn returns, Dear friend, You should expect these times.. the way to deal with it to accept, list out, and start working on thigns that are not in order..and you shall be happy as the cycle unfolds...

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EighthMoon
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posted September 02, 2008 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Unmoved,

Uranus seems to be spurring all of my late degree Virgo peeps these days!

Did you check out transits to your progressed chart? Another possibility...

Hope that things are "sunny side up" for you soon!

8th

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evander
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posted September 02, 2008 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for evander     Edit/Delete Message
how did you take the saturn venus contact?

as far as the rest goes. sucks that you feel that way. for what its worth i know quite a few people who are expiriencing similar feelings these days, so just. hang in there

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astroleolady
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posted September 02, 2008 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astroleolady     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Unmoved,

There was a transiting Moon/Mars conjunction in your 12th house yesterday at 11:58 pm EDT. Today, transiting Mars is squaring your nodal axis in the 9th and 3rd houses. Transiting Mars squaring the nodes is a time when people can be angry, frustrated and irritable. With the focal point in the 12th, you may well want to be alone and keep to yourself more. On the 8th, there will be a Mercury/Mars conjunction in your 12th as well.

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posted September 02, 2008 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Well t-mars is approaching natal saturn (as well as n-merc (angry words), n-pluto (intensity to annoyance)). You'll be might frustrated and annoyed for a few days but I think its pretty much what everyone else has said too. 12th house is your private retreat but everyone else around you can see your 12th house, the transiting planets in the 12th will make it even more visible.

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Unmoved
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posted September 03, 2008 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Ooooh. There's a lot of things going on then. Wow. The Venus Saturn meeting on my chart was not bad. It made me sober. I was able to love, laugh and feel but I was not caught in illusions of trying to make something out of nothing.

I'll will look at what you guys said closer. By the sounds of it, I've been handling this period very well.

but yes, I'm highly impatient with a lot of people and things. I just can't stand waiting for someone fumbling over what they want to say. I always feel like just walking away and asking them to call me when they are ready to speak. Rude. Rude. Rude. But I haven't said that to anyone, but I've acted it by escaping.

my thing is, if you can say it in one word, why the paragraph? Another thing I'm saying a lot in my head is telling people to get to the point. I'm not in a hurry so I don't get it.

I am avoiding people who aren't straight forward and brief. Vagueness annoys me these days. People being dramatic annoy me. People feeling sorry for themselves annoys me to. I just can't stand it. But all my life I could stand it. It's making me feel selfish.

Also, I can smell bs a mile away so before a person begins spinning bs, I tell them what they are about to say and tell them to buzz off. I sound like a dragon lady.

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Unmoved
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posted September 03, 2008 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Also, I'm not repeating myself to people. If I tell you something once, and you didn't listen, too bad. I'll see you after you burn.

Feeling like this scares me. It's like I'm cold. Actually I am cold. I can only be nice to homeless people. I still talk to them, give them food and stuff. They have no ego issues. They feel like equals. There is no power struggle with them.

the thing is, with this coldness, I'm open too, as if I'm not trying to be anything. I am probably tired of making other people feel good when all they give back is **** . So, I'm not entertaining anyone who depletes my spirit, maybe that's why I chase them away before they do more damage.

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belgz
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posted September 03, 2008 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Mars square your moody moon will def do it and also its conjunct ur mercury which represents the nerves and moon feelings.

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Sun.. Cancer

Moon.. Gemini

Mars.. Cancer

Mercury.. Cancer

Venus.. Leo

Ascendant....... Virgo

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Unmoved
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posted September 03, 2008 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
8th - I am now checking my progressed chart. I will tell you what I find. Sorry I rook so long. I am on my notebook now.

prSun, prVenus, prMercury RX are in the 12th House. The prSun is about to conjunct nMercury.

prMars in 2nd is square my PoF in 11th. (if I am correct)

evander - I answered you Q on the previous post.

astrolady - Thank you, Thank you Thank you for the time you took to look at the chart. Much appreciated.

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There was a transiting Moon/Mars conjunction in your 12th house yesterday at 11:58 pm EDT. Today, transiting Mars is squaring your nodal axis in the 9th and 3rd houses. Transiting Mars squaring the nodes is a time when people can be angry, frustrated and irritable. With the focal point in the 12th, you may well want to be alone and keep to yourself more. On the 8th, there will be a Mercury/Mars conjunction in your 12th as well.

23- I can see what you have said happening as we speak. but weirdly, I am just seething inside. For all everyone knows, I am ok. Hmmm... 12th House repressed feelings maybe?

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Xena
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posted September 03, 2008 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xena     Edit/Delete Message
I haven't been here for so long I almost forgot my username. Funny, I have also been feeling irritable - my Asc is at 17 deg. Virgo, and I'm thinking it could be the current (general) Sun/Saturn conjunction at fault? Just a thought.

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posted September 04, 2008 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Unmoved - it could be what you said. Mars moves relatively quickly though (it doesn't appear to be going rx either in the next month or so either) so you should snap out of it and then get a whole pile of energy.

Xena - saturn transiting over sun will give you discipline/good work ethic but maybe you will feel restricted or be stern. Mars in 1st might give you aggression and energy, assertiveness as well (which is what Unmoved should feel soon).

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Unmoved
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posted September 04, 2008 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you 23. Am I having Saturn return conjunct my Sun? Don't I have my Saturn return when tSaturn conjuncts my natal Saturn? I would understand it if my solar return is about to be hit by Saturn but still, I don't think that will happen on this solar return.

anyway, i'm still irritable. I thought it would pass quickly but I seem easily ticked off. Oh, and I'm really feeling those people who call to drain me by talking about the least interesting thing, themselves.

I just recommend people like that, who just love talking about themselves, to start blogging like the rest of us self involved people instead of defiling my precious ears. Gosh.

It's people set on telling me about the progress they have made in their lives like I asked. Gosh. I everytime I hear about that stuff I'm so tempted to turn it around and tell them about how I have it good. But I listen. And listen. And get bored. I am happy for people's successes but it looks like there's a conspiracy and everyone I know has to tell me about having done something I did in the past.

You know what it is? It's like people are competing when there's no competition. We live different lives. I'm self centred I suppose because I don't care about what people are up to because I've got stuff to do. So, one friend started having a breakdown about some good news I had. So now she calls all the time to hear me say good stuff about her and play myself down because that makes her feel better.

I mentioned in passing that I got invited to an award night, just saying that I'm not going because it is too far and my money is for more important needs and not partying. Her reaction made me learn to never tell her about places I get invited to or who invites me because I got venom. So much so that I was close to calling her on it when I decided to go breathe.

I'm sick of this. Why should I always be people's cheerleaders about problems that don't count as problems? I have to listen to stupid problems about men who ask her out. Gosh! All girls get that.

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EighthMoon
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posted September 04, 2008 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Unmoved,

It sounds to me like you're in a growth period and you're "outgrowing" your crew.

Someone taught me an amazing little tidbit...don't judge others by how funny they are, handsome/pretty, nice, etc. Judge those in your life by what they bring you. If they are bringing you down, don't feed into their energy.

For example, if your friend is talking to you about something you don't agree with, don't even say "uh huh." If you do, you're accepting her negative energy and she'll stick around. If you only speak what you believe and acknowledge what you think is right, (not respond to things you think are wrong) these kinds of people will miraculosuly start to phase out. The reason is that they can't feed off of you anymore, and they'll move on.

Works like a charm for me every time.

8th

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Unmoved
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posted September 04, 2008 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry guys. I had to let it out because I can't do it by talking but I can write my anguish quite well. Some guy I hardly know, a friend's boyfriend took the phone while I was talking to my friend, to tell me how he is buying a mine. wtf? I congratulated him with as much enthusiasm I could muster and I asked myself why people are so shallow talking about money all the time. He was telling me about his cc as if I aint got one. Gosh. Then he said I must look at his numbers quickly. That's when I put my foot down and told him that I'm not doing any readings because I'm looking after myself and health. I had to repeat myself. Then he said he'll show me the business plan. My question is, why the heck is he showing me? I'm just me. People want more of me than I can give and I'm about to blow.

okay. I shut up now.

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posted September 04, 2008 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Unmoved - I think that 8th has provided sage advice.

Real friends don't need to show off. I had this problem a few years back where work colleagues were starting to become "friends" of mine. These so-called friends would constantly brag about their next move, what they had and what they were going to achieve. Then they would support cliques to advance themselves and still brag to you but leave you out. I think that's lack of maturity as well a lack of confidence. That is what I have picked up in what you have written. They feel intimidated by you and feel the need to brag to you about what they are doing. These aren't real friends. A real friend is someone who is willing to be a shoulder to you during hard times and likewise you to them. I say get rid of them. I did, it did me no harm. Plus, you are self-focussed, you have all your planets in the Eastern hemisphere, maybe people sense you self-focus and envy that you are able to do it.

As for your saturn return, it is when t-saturn conj n-saturn. It's still a few years away for you. Maybe you'll retreat a lot in that time because it will happen in your 12th. I have my saturn in the 4th and I retreated myself when it happened.

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Unmoved
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posted September 04, 2008 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
That's good advice 8th + 23. That sucks though because she was almost like a sister apart from this thing she's doing lately. If I out grow her, that will be a sad day indeed. I'm happy that she's on holiday in Amsterdam now so that she can feel better.

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posted September 04, 2008 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Well sounds to me that you are happy she's also away. That might be an indication of what you truly feel, ie that you don't need her energy around you.

Also I noticed that saturn is moving through your 11th which means that you might be quite serious in regard to your friends or some restrictions. Maybe you might lose a few even. When it transited my 11th as a teenager, I had few friends myself, I just wasn't interested in the nonsense. Likewise, you might have "friend" issues when saturn transits your 12th and conj merc (ruler of 11th), again, there might be issues.

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