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sunshine_lion
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From: ann arbor mi
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted September 03, 2008 06:36 AM
 
do you think the venus in scorpio stabalizes the sag from a wandering eye? This sag breaks the stereo=typical mold of the wanderer. Very focused, intense..comes off more like an aires focused on the goal / win. Fascinated with me is a good word. Call - several times a day...comes off very sincere to me, and I am usually a good read of sincerity in an individual. Leos and sag always get on like peas and carrots, and have more fun than most...but this is more intense from that scorpio influence I think. Is it maturity, neediness.. or is it just a trick? Seem like I see more scorpio traits than sag. anyone with experience on those placements? IP: Logged |
belgz
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From: sydney
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posted September 03, 2008 10:05 AM
who said venus in scorpio was loyal to begin with? they love their sex too much and i dont know anyone who has venus in scorpio that is loyal especially those libras!!------------------
Sun.. Cancer Moon.. Gemini Mars.. Cancer Mercury.. Cancer Venus.. Leo Ascendant....... Virgo IP: Logged |
sunshine_lion
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From: ann arbor mi
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posted September 03, 2008 10:22 AM
It has to be something else then.
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augentier
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From: KS
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posted September 03, 2008 10:26 AM
yeah..i am a scorp venus but i wouldnt consider myself loyal.------------------
Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moon Mercury:: Sagittarius
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Scorpionic Web
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From: Pennsylvania
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posted September 03, 2008 10:52 AM
I have a long history with Sag girls. Of the four Saggies I've been involved with, I know three have Scorpio Venus, and I don't know what the placements are of the 4th girl.One is incredibly loyal:
Sag Moon, Sag Merc, Scorp Venus, Cap Mars, Taurus Asc Another is terribly fickle but very moral, and she doesn't have a "wandering eye":
Gemini Moon, Sag Merc, Scorp Venus, Cap Mars, Pisces Asc The third is a shameless cheater (but hey, at least I was "the other guy", and not the guy being cheated on):
Aqua Moon, Sag Merc, Scorp Venus, Aries Mars, Sag Asc *Edit: Of course, this is all assuming that my perceptions are correct... no one can ever be sure of their lover's fidelity, but Sagittarius girls, cheaters or not, always seem honest with me about who they are. IP: Logged |
sunshine_lion
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From: ann arbor mi
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posted September 03, 2008 11:17 AM
here is the chart of the person in question.  IP: Logged |
sunshine_lion
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From: ann arbor mi
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posted September 03, 2008 11:20 AM
ok, so kick it./...duex.....are you here? I see two numbers on the neptune in scorpio, one is 14 and the other 34 or something, which one is the number you were referring to in the other thread? if you are not bored with me yet. thanks.IP: Logged |
sunshine_lion
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From: ann arbor mi
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posted September 03, 2008 11:25 AM
damn close on the pluto virgo thing too. very interesting kick it. very interesting...
and thanks so much for all of your input guys! appreciated!IP: Logged |
deuxantares
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From: Meet Me in Sofia
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posted September 03, 2008 11:26 AM
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deuxantares
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posted September 03, 2008 11:30 AM
Sunshine, it is very helpful if you memorize the meanings of those symbols on the lower left side of the chart i posted. The small square stands for square aspect, the triangle is trine, etc etc.IP: Logged |
sunshine_lion
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From: ann arbor mi
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted September 03, 2008 11:33 AM
most of those I know I know but the.. bq... I don't know what that one means...and I don't know the math formulas. that will have to come later I think. Nor do I undersatnd how to pinpoint transits. Very very hard to understand.IP: Logged |
deuxantares
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From: Meet Me in Sofia
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posted September 03, 2008 11:44 AM
Ok, now i forgot what your question was.  Let's try to recap: Kick It was saying your 7th house is ruled by Pluto because the cusp is in Scorpio. quote:
Because Pluto rules your 7th, as Scorpio is on the cusp, the 7th house is all about Pluto.Your relationships/partner (7th) involves manipulation/power games (Pluto) with dating/children (5th house) More ways to look at it than that.
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sunshine_lion
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From: ann arbor mi
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posted September 03, 2008 11:49 AM
well my origanal question in this thread was the sag with venus in scorp being faithful, or no wandering eye...but then the true love thread got my attention, the placements kick it said were pivital were a neptune at 14 degrees scorp or 14.42, and pluto at 17 virgo, which is not possible in this lifetime... my next question would be does the degree or is the degree the first second or last number listed on the chart next to the placement aspect? see how there are three numbers there? and if what he is saying is true, this might be the closest thing possible for love indicator relationship unless I run to london to find that other guy born dec 18th...that could take years. Here is the synastry also.  IP: Logged |
Kick It
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From: Leeds
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posted September 03, 2008 11:53 AM
Sunshine, the 1st number is degrees and the 2nd number is minutes. Concentrate on the 1st number.IP: Logged |
sunshine_lion
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From: ann arbor mi
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted September 03, 2008 11:57 AM
so do look at it the opposite way, as in am I what he would look for as a true love indicator chart...the ruler of his 7th house would be cancer or ruled by the moon. and his 11th house ruler would be sag and ruled by jupiterif I am not mistaken.IP: Logged |
deuxantares
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From: Meet Me in Sofia
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posted September 03, 2008 11:57 AM
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Sunshine, if you are looking for a partner, look to your 11th house and your 7th house rulers. 11th - Neptune, 7th - Pluto.
Look for transit aspects to Neptune from Neptune and/or from transit Neptune to Pluto.Neptune moves back and forth quite a bit, so it likely the person will be roughly the same age as you. Millions of people even.
So look for someone with Neptune at 14 Scorpio, which is conjunct that Neptune, but also sextile Pluto. If you find that and a combination of Pluto at 17 Virgo, that is ideal, but I dont think that combination happens with that Neptune/Pluto cycle. Add to that your 7th house ruler which is Pluto. You find someone with their 7th house ruler conjunct yours.
1st step, look for someone with Neptune at 14 about 14.42 Scorpio.
2nd step, find someone with their 7th ruler conjunct yours and any other house rulers which are important.
Your Neptune is at 17.13 Scorpio. I think he wants you to look for a person whose Neptune is at 14 or 14.42.  IP: Logged |
sunshine_lion
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From: ann arbor mi
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted September 03, 2008 11:59 AM
right, if I am reading marks chart correctly, his neptune is at 14 degrees and his pluto at 12 in virgo. no? IP: Logged |
deuxantares
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From: Meet Me in Sofia
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posted September 03, 2008 12:02 PM
That means Mark fits the requirement, Kick It? His Neptune is at 14.17 Scorpio.IP: Logged |
Kick It
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From: Leeds
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posted September 03, 2008 12:03 PM
This should really be in the other thread Sunshine, use whole sign house system like you have done in the example of the guy just posteda few messages above and you will see Scorpio is on the 11th for him. Which means Pluto.
As Moon rules his 7th, you need to find someone with his Pluto the same position as him, in aspect to his Moon, or equally, someone with a Full Moon conjunct his Pluto, to make it perfect.
It can work with the one you just posted, but it would be more better for you than him. You dont need to go to London to find anyone, it can be anywhere in the world. Place does not matter, only the chart positions. IP: Logged |
sunshine_lion
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From: ann arbor mi
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted September 03, 2008 12:04 PM
so to reverse it, of course after kick it comes back and verifies, to look at his jupiter and moon how do I compute it the opposite way? do you know duex? why is it different when you run whole house. the other way it looks as if jupiter is the ruler of his 11th? no?IP: Logged |
deuxantares
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From: Meet Me in Sofia
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posted September 03, 2008 12:06 PM
Ahahaha, i think you're right Kick It. Anyhow, it's related to Sunshine's earlier thread. So let's link the two thread together later after you finish Sunshine's case. IP: Logged |
GrlyGirl20
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posted September 03, 2008 12:06 PM
To answer your question sunshine lion:I actually was involved with a sag guy who had venus in scorpio. I'm a cancer and I have a slew of pluto stuff going on in my chart so I guess he found that attractive. He was a double sag...and yes he did have a VERY VERY big roaming eye...he would not cheat, he had been previously cheated on and thought that was very disloyal...however even though he didn't cheat he was a jerk of a guy who truly hurt me in every way possible. And then dropped me like a hot potato for another girl lol...so to answer your question he will probably be loyal...just don't fence him in too much. IP: Logged |
deuxantares
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From: Meet Me in Sofia
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posted September 03, 2008 12:10 PM
Ooops, I need to digest Kick It's formula in the other thread. LOL Will be back later.IP: Logged |
sunshine_lion
Knowflake Posts: 919
From: ann arbor mi
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted September 03, 2008 12:17 PM
ok, my pluto is almost an exact conjunct to his pluto..so wouldn't it make the same aspect to his moon? I am trying to understand here. I still am not sure why there is a difference in house rulers when you do the whole house chart as opposed to the western. And since pluto is such a slow moving planet, wouldn't this aspect be generational, like all 1962 people would be close with the pluto placement. That gives a pretty big pond to fish in..if I were fishing.IP: Logged |
Kick It
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From: Leeds
Registered: May 2008
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posted September 03, 2008 12:27 PM
To hell with doing it for you lot. Heres an example for me....I need to find someone born on this date:
25th September 1968, 03:25. London, England. Should be 25 Leo rising. The place and time doesnt matter, just as long as its the same ASC. We both have the same Jupiter and Mercury. My 11th house is Sagittarius, therefore ruled by Jupiter.
When she was born, Jupiter was almost comjunt my natal Jupiter. In her chart, her 11th house has Gemini on the cusp, therefore Mercury as its ruler.
When I was born, Mercury was almost conjunct her natal Mercury. Her Mercury is seperating 3 degrees from my Mercury, while her Jupiter is applying 3 degrees to my Jupiter. So while its not exact, if you take a planet seperating 3 degrees (-3) and add a planet applying 3 degrees (+3) then you come up with an exact combination. -3 (+) +3 = 0. Exact. Close enough seems fine. Add to that both 7th rulers conjunct and that is ideal.
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