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PLF
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posted September 13, 2008 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PLF     Edit/Delete Message
I'm curious to see just how well those who DONT know me (which is all of you folks on this site apart from a few I've had the pleasure of briefly chatting with) can tell about me just through powers of astrology ( interpreting my chart)

I'm not an astrology skeptic. But am not a fanatic or crazy follower either. You can say I'm an astrology newbie. Not compared to most people on the street but definitely among you more knowledgeable folks here.

What can you say about me just from my chart then?
I'm curious. Everyone's allowed a fair-shot and a go. It doesn't matter whether you're a novice or an expert. Have a crack at it if you fancy.

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23
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posted September 13, 2008 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
Your mission in life is to be more self-centred, driven, passionate and to be a leader - NN in aries. If it is in the 1st, then you must direct this mission to yourself, you must discover who you are.

You are a very stable, practical person. Highly ambitious, maybe reserved and cautious (cap planets in 10th). Career will be a major focus in your life, at minimum, you might define yourself by your public persona/career. Your thinking and your ego maybe creative artistic, maybe a bit undefined and nebulous (neptune conj sun/merc), creativity might be an option in your career.

You like very intense relationships with deep exploration and heavy emotion (ruler of DC, venus in 8th/sco and pluto in 7th). You might not see the intensity of yourself when you relate to others and you seek that in others (pluto in 7th).

Your chart ruler is mars, it is in 12th/pisces. Maybe you hide your drives/energy from others a bit but they can see it (12th house). According to another post, mars in pisces might sap your energy a bit but it might be replenished by the conjunction with jupiter. You direct your energy emotionally and spiritually. Maybe the usage of this might help discover who you are (mars rules your asc and NN, NN in 1st possibly).

In terms of love, you may find a loved one at work or in a public environment (5th house ruler is in cap/10th). You are likely to be very loving but very serious at the same time (leo-cap), maybe even dreamy about it (sun conj neptune)

You are a serious/practical thinker but also a radical thinker - ura/saturn in 9th. Also you might take a few trips to a few eccentric places or visit historical places.

Your IC is in cancer which indicates maybe a tight connection to the past/family but this is at odds maybe by your moon being in cap. Maybe you try to restrict your feelings on these issues (moon in cap) and you use your past or family to establish social connections (moon in 11th)

You are publicly focused with emphasis on self (all planets on horizon, SE quadrant heavy).

Maybe you feel shy or lack confidence in communicating - chiron in gemini/3rd, its is also rx, which means that maybe you have issues concerning that from the past/early life.

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Love
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posted September 13, 2008 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I'll see what I can add.

Ruler of the 7th house in the 8th and ruler of the 8th house in the 7th, both in Scorpio...are your relationships intense? Do you crave that intensity from a partner? Do relationships feel like they shift something (huge) at your core? I would think that the answer is yes.

Even more so since the ruler of your 5th house is Moon which is sextiling your Venus and your Mars (Mars being your chart ruler). And Venus and Mars are trining between Scorpio and Pisces and the 8th house and the 12th house, whose rulerships are traditionally the 8th and 12th houses.

You have everything in the upper or public half of your chart, except for NN and Chiron, however, SN would land in your 7th house.

Basically, underneath all of the more rational aspects of your chart, I see someone who is deep and intense and feeling. I'm not sure how private you are about this stuff though...there seems to be struggle in regards to what you say and what you do as far as privacy goes...maybe it's easier to talk about the deep stuff than it is to engage in it??

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evander
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posted September 13, 2008 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for evander     Edit/Delete Message
in few words: quick temper, persistent feelings, didn't have the easiest elementary school experience, probably very confused about career path

there's really good book quotes on some of your harder aspects. you should look it up. i don't doubt it would be useful.

and do u happen to have a scar on your feet? [that's just a theory im testing, probably nothing]

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koiflower
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posted September 13, 2008 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message

Just a threed killa moment

23 and PLF - you will relate to this

My partner and I went out for a drive yesterday and she commented on how I like to be first taking off from lights

How's that for an Arian moment!!!

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belgz
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posted September 13, 2008 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
OMG pluto is going over your MC

Your in for a tough 2 years. Its time to make an appointment with your shrink :P

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Sun.. Cancer

Moon.. Gemini

Mars.. Cancer

Mercury.. Cancer

Venus.. Leo

Ascendant....... Virgo

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koiflower
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posted September 13, 2008 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message

Venus in Scorpio 8th house - deep, intense lover, with Pluto in the 7th, strengthens the desire to transform relationships to their greatest heights or possible depths.

Saturn/Uranus in Sag - deep profound morals and philosophies, with an ability to set reforms for change.

Neptune in Cap - seems like an oxymoron combination. Maybe a harsh dry view on spirituality.

Sun/Mercury in 10th with Neptune - strength in occupation using rationales and clear objectives.

Mars in Pisces 12thH square Sat/Ura in Sag - highlights a need to direct energy into higher orders goals with a sense of purpose, without getting too strung-out and over-anxious about it.


Overall - you're a people's person with your heart in the right place. Deep, sensitive, with a need to find fun in the simplicities of life. The ability/drive to transform individual or group's direction toward idealistic goals.

............all in my novice opinion!

koifower oxo

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writesomething
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posted September 13, 2008 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
werent you that "ambitious" capricorn? i think you got a lot of helpful responses last time(big thread i believe) even from geo(whos a professional astrologer)...so im not sure why youve started another one asking again.

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PLF
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posted September 13, 2008 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PLF     Edit/Delete Message
I have my reasons.

quote:

there's really good book quotes on some of your harder aspects. you should look it up. i don't doubt it would be useful.


Could you direct me to where and how I would go about doing that, Evander?

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and do u happen to have a scar on your feet? [that's just a theory im testing, probably nothing

I do have a circular burn-scar on my left foot which has significantly faded however over the years and is now almost unrecognizable. This was from my childhood when my foot got caught on fire briefly while camping in some forest, many many years back.

Nowadays, I have a little black scar on my left big toe-nail which I received while playing soccer I believe a couple months ago.

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Some very interesting posts here thus far guys & gals. Gracias.

@kflower, thanks for your thoughts and as for your 1st post here, all I can say is LOL!

@23, you never cease to be helpful!
If my life's mission is to discover myself, then yours seems to be to help others do that.

@Love, you in particular hit a couple very interesting points which has got me thinking....

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CoralFrequency
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posted September 14, 2008 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message
Since you're 21, you're probably studying something at the moment - either law, business, maybe philosophy (Pisces Jupiter!) and the ruler of your MC is in Sagittarius.


I don't think I have much to add, other than what has already been said - you are definitely practical, possibly a workaholic. Pisces Mars means - you have girls all over you but you don't necessarily like it.

PERFECT in a leading position. You have lots of cardinal placements in your chart and your NN/ASC are in Aries, so any area you go into, chances are, you'll achieve a leading position.

With both Venus and Mars in water signs, you are actually highly emotional and take sex VERY seriously. You can't stand anything false or surface. The Jessica Simpson type - is probably not your idea of a perfect match.

There are many things you want to work on and change in the world. I'm saying this because a majority of your planets are in transpersonal signs AND transpersonal houses, so you are more interested in world affairs, than you are in *yourself* or *interpersonal relationships*.

Scorpio is known for regeneration and change. There are certain things you want to take out by the roots and abolish or at least completely change them - in society. You also want to be in a position where you would be able to do this. If this is a clear, set-out goal for you – you will probably achieve it later in life.

I actually like your chart. I have a lot of the same signs and I specially like the Pisces Jupiter trine Pluto. It makes for a strong moral streak – most people find it easy to place their trust in you.

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PLF
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posted September 14, 2008 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PLF     Edit/Delete Message
Wow... yet another very interest post! Thanks CF!

Some of it is bang-on! Some I can't quite identify with but perhaps there are reasons for that.
Though this post reminds me of something I probably should've mentioned at the beginning of thread but forgot to. My apologies. I have mentioned it in other threads before however and that is the fact that the time of birth in the chart above (11:32am) is not exact. I just put that, to get a full chart. It is roughly correct however as we know I'm an Aries rising and was born not too long before noon. (Let's say no earlier than 10:30am...)

Now as an astrological newbie, I don't know how much this would change the aspects and hence the interpretations you guys have given me considering the 'exact' time isn't certain. But I imagine, the stuff you guys are mentioning (all of you) are more or less correct even if I were born half an hour or so before or after the above time, right? Or are your interpretations THAT specific and exact? In which case, I'm sorry I didn't clarify this sooner.

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CoralFrequency
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posted September 14, 2008 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message
My interpretation wouldn't change much.
You still have North Node in Aries - which is an important karmic point.

The other thing I said about transpersonal houses, also wouldn't change.. because whether you have a Pisces or an Aries Ascendant - a majority of your planets would still be in transpersonal houses.

But it would be good if you could get a more exact time. The main points in astrology are: Sun/Moon/Ascendant.. In your case the Ascendant can be either Aries or Pisces (if you were born sometime between 10.30 am and 12.00). This has a lot to do with your physical appearance and the way you come across to people in general.

Aries is the first sign of the zodiac, sometimes perceived as childish but also brave & honest. They usually have bushy eye brows and dark eyes. Pisces is the last sign so they are perceived as mature and spiritually deep. They usually have very watery eyes and *huge* lips. I'm not sure if that helps

The problem with your chart is, even if you had an Aries Ascendant - the ruler of this Ascendant is Mars in Pisces. The ruler can also be significant to your appearance.. so you are likely to have Piscean traits either way. It might be difficult to identify which one it is, unless you can find out the time.

The only things that change in your chart are: the Asc sign and probably some of the houses - you can check and see which ones.

Any of the replies about houses, could be mistaking.

But your Moon and the other planets stay practically the same.

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funnyface
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posted September 14, 2008 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for funnyface     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry to butt in and divert from the main topic,forgive me.
Belgz, you said pluto over MC is a tough time. I have pluto going over my MC first direct then retro and I am wishing that it ends soon. One tough time after another. My dad was diagnosed with prostate cancer two months back and it has been an emotional rollercoaster for me since. Will it stop after pluto goes into Capricorn for good? I have moon in Capricorn at 18 degrees so it is a worrisome thing for me now.

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koiflower
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posted September 14, 2008 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message

CF - thanks for the tip on 'huge lips'. That makes sense for me!

Oh, the simple things that can make my day

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PLF
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posted September 14, 2008 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PLF     Edit/Delete Message
@funnyface, no worries. It's obviously been a tough time for you and your family recently. I sincerely hope things get better.

@CF, very helpful post, my friend!! So it is the 'houses' that can change not the signs of planets. Nice to know. I do study Business by the way.

As for rising sign or ascendant, if there is one thing I know quite well about astrology amigo is this because I've done crazy amount of hours researching it. I'm 99.9% sure I'm an Aries rising.

And the decision becomes even easier when the 2 possible options are Pisces and Aries. Because although I am a little 'fish-like' on the inside (a rather small part of me I'd say), people don't get to see that. They see something closer to the opposite in fact.

Now if the decision was between Leo or Aries, it'd be a bit tougher because I get mistaken for both regularly. But it's not. Yet even then, I'm pretty sure of the Aries thing because I've spent hours reading about what Aries rising signs are like (bookmarked some as well which I can share with you guys, especially capricorns with aries rising sign which were very eye-opening reads! ) and it is just like me. When I first discovered my 'Arian ascendant' in fact, everything made so much more sense suddenly. Some of my wants, needs and needing to appear a certain way. It clicked! And explained a big part of my personality in terms of how I'm perceived as so different than what most people would expect from a traditional and typical cap (which I definitely AM! Hell I'm a triple Cap and proud too! Yet people except those close to me can't see that or even guess at it). They think I'm outgoing, very social, fun, fearless, hilarious, domineering and 'macho'. I guess I 'appear' that way but on the inside, I do still feel somewhat introverted, cautious and reserved.

So take my word for it that I'm an Aries rising and let's move on from that. My question now is 'would any of the houses have changed compared to the 11:32 birth-time in chart above if I were let's say born at the beginning or ending time that would still fall under 'Aries' rising? Or will they be same as the chart above which would be good news.

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted September 14, 2008 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Hi PLF,

The exact time is very important even if your Ascendant remains in Aries. When it comes to more advanced astrological techniques such as Secondary Progressions, Solar Arcs and Tertiary Progressions (which can give you future projections and predictions to the minute), you really need to be fair to your astrologer and yourself by letting them that they either have or don't have the exact time.

For example, in the case of twins, the exact time can be the only tool the astrologer has for giving each of them an exact reading tailored to each individual. Not only that, if you don't know the exact time, you don't know exactly where your Moon is and since the Moon can move 13 degrees each day, that is a huge symbol to pass up. There is a big difference between 10:30 AM and 11:32 AM when it comes to determining your Ascendant.

Geocosmic Valentine

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luv and light
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posted September 14, 2008 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for luv and light     Edit/Delete Message
Your a young (wannabee) porn star!!!

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CoralFrequency
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posted September 14, 2008 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message
Hey! glad it helped. I just get the feeling you might get confused again.. so just to clarify.

10.30 AM - your Moon is at: 26'54° Capricorn

12.00 Noon - your Moon is at: 27'51° Capricorn

It moves exactly 1 degree.
And as I said, the other planets stay the same. The Moon moves fastest.


There is a huge difference in Ascendant though, as Geocosmic said:

10.30 AM - Ascendant: 10'39° Pisces

12.00 Noon - Ascendant: 14'23° Aries

There is a distance there of around 34°. Every sign has 30°. The reason the houses change is that - the Ascendant is actually the line of the 1st house. I'll just use Einstein's chart, to show you what happens.

If he was born later, the Asc line would move in the direction of the red arrow and so would ALL the house lines.

If he was born earlier, the Asc line + all house lines - would move in the direction of the green arrow.

To see how this alters things. Right now, his Pluto is in Taurus in the 11th house. If he was born earlier - the Asc line would move up in Cancer.. and the line of the 12th house would also move up - thus Pluto would end up being in the 12th house (but still in Taurus - same place)

You can actually do your chart on astro.com for 10.30 AM and then re-do it for 11.42 or 12.00, and see what the changes are - when it comes to houses.
Then if you look at interpretations of planets in houses, you may be able to work out what suits you better.

Have fun!


luv & light,

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Your a young (wannabee) porn star!!!

where did you see that? lol

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deuxantares
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posted September 14, 2008 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for deuxantares     Edit/Delete Message
Hey PLF, when i saw your photos earlier you reminded me of a very dear friend who has Sun and Mars in Capricorn, and Venus in Scorp. He was born January 1, a few years before you. I was pleasantly surprised to know later on that you are also a Cappy Sun, which means my astro-novice self can now pinpoint similarities in the looks of people with common placements. Yay! He is from the Middle East, and i was earlier thinking you or your family must be from somewhere there, too. And now i see that you were born in Iran, so çlose.

The difference is he has Moon in Aqua, which makes him very much interested in philanthropy and anything concerning the betterment of mankind. He is a businessman and he is engaged in sports, music and entertainment.

Another thing is that his Ascendant is in sexy Scorpio, which makes him a magnet for both girls and gays of all ages. Seeing that you are an Ass Model (re: your profile), i think that you and my friend have a lot of things in common.

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Sun:Scorpio, Moon:Scorpio, Asc:Gemini

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funnyface
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posted September 14, 2008 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for funnyface     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks PLF for being so understanding. I have uranus square the ruler of my 4th and 2nd house too, so with the pluto transit and the uranus square, life has been difficult. To add to my joys, next year pr.uranus will conjunct my natal Asc.
I am just tired, want to lay my head down and hope never to wake up. Will I ever see better days?

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PLF
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posted September 14, 2008 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PLF     Edit/Delete Message
You will FF. You no doubt will! Just hang-in there!

@CF, You're right, I was getting confused. But now thanks to your lengthy explanation and edited chart with arrows! I believe I get it. Danke.

Since 10:30 am would make 'Rising' sign fall under Pisces however, it's out of the question and we no longer need to consider it a possibility.

@GV, what's up amigooooooooooooooooooooo!!!?!! Looooong time no see man!! How have you been? I hope everything including your business has had its fair share of further success since we spoke about 6 months ago or so!

Thanks for the post. I understand the situation better now and the 'twins' example really is an appropriate one which helps us grasp it better.

@deuxantares, I bet we do have a lot in common!

Though, I'm personally not a magnet for gays. Or at least if I am, I don't know about it because I've never been approached by one. Then again, that doesn't mean I'm not one. Just that, since it's less accepted in the society and since I do have somewhat of an intimidating and dominant presence with perhaps a bit of a homo-phobic vibe even, they may hold themselves back and assess the possible risk and decide this one is not worth going for lol. In which case, they're right and better off keeping their distance.

As for the occupation, haha... that's just a lame joke on my part.
Though my @$s is probably well qualified for the job then lol, I've never really given that any thought.

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Wow!!! You've got me all figured out missy!

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PLF
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posted September 16, 2008 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PLF     Edit/Delete Message
Can anything in regards to sense of entitlement be interpreted from my chart?

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posted September 16, 2008 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know if the sense of entitlement refers to other posts or not, I'll just take it as it doesn't. I'd say that entitlement might come from tau which is possession. Ruler of 2nd is venus, venus in sco/8th. Venus trine mars - maybe positive assertion of right to entitlement? Otherwise maybe heavy earth emphasis - mundane? or sun issue.

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PLF
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posted September 20, 2008 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PLF     Edit/Delete Message
Hey 23,

Sorry. Been very busy the past few days.

No, it didn't have anything to do with any other posts. Just something I thought of then and wanted to ask about.

In regards to your very first post here, I found it very interesting and informative. Much like other replies I've gotten here which I'm very much thankful for.

There's a couple things I was hoping you could elaborate more on however as I'm not sure I quite understand....

quote:

In terms of love, you may find a loved one at work or in a public environment (5th house ruler is in cap/10th). You are likely to be very loving but very serious at the same time (leo-cap), maybe even dreamy about it (sun conj neptune)

Where is the 'Leo' bit you speak of coming from?

quote:

You are publicly focused with emphasis on self (all planets on horizon, SE quadrant heavy).


Could you be more specific? Not sure what that really means but I kinda have a clue so I want to make sure I'm thinking what I think you're saying.

Finally...

quote:

You like very intense relationships with deep exploration and heavy emotion (ruler of DC, venus in 8th/sco and pluto in 7th). You might not see the intensity of yourself when you relate to others and you seek that in others (pluto in 7th).

The bolded part, I'm not sure I understand...

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AcousticGod
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posted September 20, 2008 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
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Can anything in regards to sense of entitlement be interpreted from my chart?

Knowing that you're a highly competitive Capricorn with Aries rising, it would be easy for people to assume you have a sense of entitlement just based on how they view your self-confidence. Any time they see you assume a roll not bestowed upon you, they may see you as unjustly thinking you have the right to that position. It's a negative spin on whatever social ease you possess.

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