posted September 16, 2008 12:15 AM         

My case:

Well, I have a Virgo friend and I do notice that we click so well when it comes to intellectual conversations. We can talk on and on about life, the world, you know, topics like that and I love this!
He also makes me feel so relaxed and calm.

One thing is that I don't feel a strong emotional-mystical connection with him as I have felt with other water signs. Of course I may be biased because every time I meet a water sign I expect to have the mystical connection, it usually becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Also, I don't know if we have not achieved this connection because we have not opened ourselves to it....he is not emotionally ready to be in a relationship (he got burned in the past) and I am too afraid to show my vulnerable side. So, we don't shout our emotions. Mind you, that there have been times when we have touched upon the connection and I feel awed...so, maybe there is a possibility that Virgos and Scorpios can have the mystical connection I am talking about.

Other than that, let's see...We always try to resolve discussions without letting them escalate. We are funny...we really get along pretty well.

posted September 16, 2008 07:24 PM         

I think the Scorpio/Virgo dynamic is this: Virgos respect Scorpios for their sense of loyalty, emotional intensity, and "bring on the world" attitude. Scorpios respect Virgos for their sense of quiet determination, caring, and logical assessment of life.

As for cons... While most Scorpios aren't too intense for ME (with my Scorp rising and 5 fire planets), I could see them maybe coming on a little strong for other, less dominant Virgos. Virgos, on the other hand, with their tendency to nitpick and criticize about the little things, could annoy the heck out of Scorpio.

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I have a Virgo friend and I do notice that we click so well when it comes to intellectual conversations.

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He also makes me feel so relaxed and calm.

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You may not have the same mystical/spiritual connection that you have with other water signs, but it is a different type of connection that you will have with an earth sign. It doesn't make it better or worse, just different.

Hope that helps!

posted September 17, 2008 01:04 PM         

This is interesting.

How do I know I make him feel calm?
I do sense that my Taurean (practical)aspects sort of ground him too, and then, there is my sensual, sweet, intense, sentimental side....that seems to make him feel comfortable and attracts him (maybe because he doesn't express this side himself?)

And I must say, he rarely expresses himself emotionally. He is quite an action person.

One thing though....

I find that I have a very practical and also emotional side on me. My practical side is flourishing strongly with him, maybe because of my Taurean aspects and his Virgo attracting one another. But at the same time, I have read that Virgos are attracted by what they can't express themselves openly: emotions, feelings, intensity. So, should I try to be more Scorpionic?
Not that I am not Scorpionic with him but I don't know if I should stay in the middle or show him my sentimental side more?

Of course, I may be overanalyzing this myself.

Another thing too:

Do Virgo men try to appear cool and calm to people? He always says he is laidback but...

I do notice that a) he gets worried b) gets confused c) gets anxious d)has mood swings.

Note on the mood swings, they are not emo mood swings. He just feels burned out or down...

Last but not least:

He got burned by his ex, a pisces.....
It seems this has really affected him a lot, as in, it hurt him greatly, he is still a tad bit jaded, not ready to invest emotionally or for a relationship and of course, he is afraid.

I am surprised since I used to have the impression that Virgos are robotic creatures that don't get hurt...

posted September 17, 2008 02:42 PM         

In my experiences, Mercury is clearly in control of Gemini. But I definitely agree that Virgo must have a co-ruler along with Mercury. There is something else mysteriously at work with these women. Like their opposite, Pisces, these females can be complete enigmas.

Virgo males always seem quite different to me. They strike me as being simple and vapid.

Every Virgo female I've known has been very difficult for me to predict from one day to the next. I recently stayed for a couple months at a Cancer buddy's place with his Virgo girlfriend. I thought she and I had been good friends until at a bar one night she just came out and said, "You know, you are really on my sh*t list." What in the world?!?! It seemed completely without merit as I had always been very polite and compromising with her. She refused to explain herself. That pretty much summarizes my relationships with Virgo girls.

The romantic relationships I've had were nothing short of rollercoasters. They made intense sweeping changes spontaneously. One minute was hot, the next minute was cold. The girls I've been with avoided me, then came on really strong, then disappeared. The avoidance, the come-on, the disappearance, happened randomly and seemingly without meaning, and I felt helpless to effect each stage from our first meeting to our parting.

posted September 18, 2008 12:16 AM         

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enchantress299, excellent analysis.. and i have seen it in so many relationships..

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How do I know I make him feel calm?

And I must say, he rarely expresses himself emotionally. He is quite an action person.

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You answered your own question right there. Virgos are big on actions NOT words. In fact, we distrust words very much, so people who are charming, but false usually don't escape our perception. As a result, we usually prefer actions over words.

Also, it's the SMALL things that we do for others that makes a difference. Sooo... Let's say that when you're around said Virgo, he seems very relaxed and open with you. Chances are, in the very least, he definitely thinks that you are a close friend. Does he do little thoughtful things for you and remember little details about you that no one else would? That's a Virgo thing... Of course, it also depends on where his Venus and Mars are.

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So, should I try to be more Scorpionic?

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NO! Don't be anything but yourself. Virgos are good at spotting liars and charmers (usually). It's better to simply be genuine and have a good time with the Virgo you're with.

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Do Virgo men try to appear cool and calm to people?

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Virgos in general try to appear cool, calm, and collected because we hate vulnerability. Our emotions often threaten to overwhelm us and so we'd rather deal with them on our own.

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I do notice that a) he gets worried b) gets confused c) gets anxious d)has mood swings.

Note on the mood swings, they are not emo mood swings. He just feels burned out or down...

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Yup. That's typical Virgo. We get inwardly anxious. If you want a visual, think of a boiling pot of water with the lid on... On the outside, you couldn't tell that anything is going on, except for the little bit of steam that is rising from the top. However, if left on for too long, the pot starts to boil over. That's kind of how Virgos are. We inwardly simmer from anxiousness and worry, but there has to be a release somewhere, or it all comes out anyway.

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He got burned by his ex, a pisces.....
It seems this has really affected him a lot, as in, it hurt him greatly, he is still a tad bit jaded, not ready to invest emotionally or for a relationship and of course, he is afraid.

But anyways, as a friend, what can I do to make him feel more secure?

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Yup. Jaded Virgos tend to stew in their own emotions for quite awhile when it comes to love. Once we work through our emotions inwardly, we come back to the real world, but it can take time.

As for making him feel more secure, really the best thing to do is be honest and open with him. Have fun with him. Enjoy the time you have with him. Enjoyment of life and being in the moment tends to distract us from the millions of things going on in our heads. Be trustworthy. That's really all I can tell you on that.

Hope that helps!

posted September 18, 2008 12:20 AM         

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I agree with a common belief that the Virgo female is perhaps the most misunderstood sign-gender combination.

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I agree, but that's just me.

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I thought she and I had been good friends until at a bar one night she just came out and said, "You know, you are really on my sh*t list." What in the world?!?! It seemed completely without merit as I had always been very polite and compromising with her.

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Well... Are you fake? There's a difference between polite and compromising and fake, and I find that many people don't get it. Are you a charmer, overly flattering, or deceitful? Like I said, a Virgo can smell a liar a mile away.

That being said... Some Virgos make snap judgments based on first impressions that are wrong. Some of my best friends have turned out to be people I absolutely hated for one reason or other when I first met them. As you can see, that critical element of Virgo does come into play.

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The girls I've been with avoided me, then came on really strong, then disappeared. The avoidance, the come-on, the disappearance,

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Virgos get the bad rap of being cold and unfeeling because we hate showing our emotions, because showing our emotions is showing our vulnerability. The truth of the matter is, we don't like to admit that we're vulnerable or that we've got deep emotions that we can't always control. As a result, we overcompensate. And when we're on the verge of a big deep emotion like LOVE, we freak out because we realize how easily we could be hurt.

Actually... The avoidance, come-on, disappearance cycle is something I can say I'm guilty of. In fact, I think I did that very thing with the Cancer that I recently dated, but that's a long story...

The avoidance part of it usually means that the Virgo likes you, perhaps too much. ALTHOUGH, the Scorpio guys that I've known have often come on very strong in the beginning, and so as a result, I've felt the need to slow things down and I usually do this by avoiding the topic or ignoring the person's advances.

The come-on part is fun and intense. Hahaha...

Until the disappearance which usually happens when a Virgo gal either found a reason to dislike you OR the exact opposite, she really really likes you, but for some reason can't be with you. Messy emotional breakups are anathema to Virgos. We hate the hurt that comes along with them and don't see a need for the fireworks.

It's EASIER for Virgos to simply walk away and cut all ties than it is to go through the emotional mess, which usually leaves us reeling for months, if we really care about the person.

Do we make a little more sense now?

posted September 18, 2008 04:34 PM         

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You answered your own question right there. Virgos are big on actions NOT words. In fact, we distrust words very much, so people who are charming, but false usually don't escape our perception. As a result, we usually prefer actions over words.

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Wow….interesting.

Because he did imply the weakness of words. Something along the lines that people lie or pretend when speaking, whereas actions, such as having sex, eating, drinking, etc are more real. It reminds me of the song Enjoy the Silence by Depeche Mode.

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Sooo... Let's say that when you're around said Virgo, he seems very relaxed and open with you. Chances are, in the very least, he definitely thinks that you are a close friend. Does he do little thoughtful things for you and remember little details about you that no one else would?

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This is a big shocker because, don’t Virgos need a lot of time to trust folks? When he said: I trust you after knowing each other for only three weeks…I thought “what?” He is also really open with me. And well, he does have a good memory. The problem here is I have strong trust issues and I am afraid he may feel hurt by this….he did ask me once, “don’t you trust me?” and I did not respond. But, he is understanding…and I have valid reasons.

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Yup. Jaded Virgos tend to stew in their own emotions for quite awhile when it comes to love. Once we work through our emotions inwardly, we come back to the real world, but it can take time.

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That’s fine with me. I am very patient and enjoy going with the flow. I really like being his friend anyways. And well, I have read that a good friendship or at least a strong friendship bond is very important for Virgos in relationships, is that true?

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be honest and open with him. Have fun with him. Enjoy the time you have with him. Enjoyment of life and being in the moment tends to distract us from the millions of things going on in our heads. Be trustworthy. That's really all I can tell you on that.

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And I am definitely doing a very good job on this…I hope.

Now that you have described him better, I can understand the attraction between Virgos and Scorpios or at least, evolved female Scorpios and male Virgos.
Because just like Virgos, Scorpios appreciate honesty, straightforwardness and openness. At least, I do. I don’t care much for flattery and fakeness, gushing because I can see right thru it….maybe this explains my issues with Libra….Gemini...?

posted September 21, 2008 07:49 PM         

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I'm a Scorpio and my longest relationship I had was with a Virgo. We had great communication, and attraction was good, but we ended up breaking up because he didn't really fit my needs anymore.
He wasn't really romantic, but was pretty needy and unsure of himself. I'm a very creative person also, and he didn't really have a creative bone in his body. So he didn't really connect to my artists side.
He did keep me very grounded though, and I liked that he was stable. I could always count on him and he was extremely loyal.
Virgos are very nice to date,practical,grounded,and they will always remember your birthday, but if your looking for some deep connecting intensity I wouldn't count on it.

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I was wondering this myself....I did mention the mystical connection in an earlier post but I don't know...maybe I don't care as much for it due to my Taurean aspects. I mean, the fact that he is so loyal, warm, laidback, passive and craves security (just like me) is enough for me, you know?

I dated a Cancer and let me tell you, the connection and the intensity formed themselves so fast and deep, we were 'awed'...but yuck, those mood swings, emotional manipulation. I dumped him.

Pisces: too much lalaland....

Maybe I can handle a water sign with some Earth on their chart.

So, in conclusion: I'll take practicality or at least a combination of practicality and emotions.
Certainly, I have not known him that long, so, I don't know. Maybe with time and when he feels more secure with me, I'll get to see his more romantic side. I don't know.