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sunshine_lion
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From: ann arbor mi
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted September 18, 2008 10:28 AM
 
 The first chart is of an accident that almost took my daughters life a few years ago. The second chart is of my accident this summer that totalled my new mustang and cost me a ton of money although no injuries, a lady ran a red light.. I am posting for reference for those of you who collect data to further your studies and also to see what in our charts at that time would point to some event. I think merc was retro during mine..which caused problems with settling and insurance and what not..but other than that...anyone?
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alanabelle86
Knowflake Posts: 1840
From: Connecticut
Registered: May 2005
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posted September 18, 2008 11:11 AM
In the 2nd one..
Transiting Sun, Mercury, and Venus conjunction natal Jupiter/2nd house cusp = protected from physical harm
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sunshine_lion
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From: ann arbor mi
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted September 18, 2008 02:23 PM
ok, so the aspects to jupiter may be protective. But what points to the possibility of accidents I wonder.Also, I almost lost this daughter twice, once as a baby and in this accident. pluto in the 5th in my chart scares me as I have heard it may point to loss of a child...(or rebellious children - which all of my children are very strong willed individuals). and both of my twins have natal uranus and saturn in the 8th house..and a stellium in the 8th and 12th houses. IP: Logged |
blue moon
Moderator Posts: 4700
From: U.K
Registered: Dec 2007
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posted September 18, 2008 02:39 PM
The Pluto in 5th myth is easily disproved by putting up a chart of someone who has lost a child but doesn't have Pluto in 5th, and someone without children who does have Pluto in 5th. I'm not going to, but take it from me. IP: Logged |
sunshine_lion
Knowflake Posts: 919
From: ann arbor mi
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted September 18, 2008 04:59 PM
of course you are right. I know people with pluto in the 5th with no children. IP: Logged |
deuxantares
Knowflake Posts: 1197
From: Meet Me in Sofia
Registered: Nov 2006
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posted September 18, 2008 05:02 PM
Sunshine, i think accidents have something to do with Mars-Uranus transits. I just don't remember my source.EDIT: And i won't be surprised if Neptune is present, too. IP: Logged |
blue moon
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From: U.K
Registered: Dec 2007
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posted September 18, 2008 05:26 PM
George Bush senior has Pluto in the 11th house. Sadly, he lost his daughter Robin to cancer when she was just 3 years old. http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/2GLau7yQ7U6a.htm The loss of Robin is also mentioned here, in an article about George Bush Junior: http://www.astrologyforthesoul.com/steffanvanel/gwbcancerlibra.html
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sunshine_lion
Knowflake Posts: 919
From: ann arbor mi
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted September 18, 2008 05:28 PM
off subject, but I just looked....what a well rounded chart he has.IP: Logged |
writesomething
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From: meet me in montauk
Registered: May 2006
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posted September 18, 2008 07:11 PM
the first chart had saturn transit the 3rd house(gemini), which rules small trips, communication,driving, etc... which could explain the accident......the 2nd, it looks like transit sun/mercury/venus were all squared your natal uranus, which rules unexpected events. IP: Logged |
belgz
Knowflake Posts: 719
From: sydney
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted September 18, 2008 07:22 PM
First chart has uranus square jupiter and so does the second chart. I think in the first chart its moving towards a square to the ascendant also along with saturn in 3rd.In regards to george bush that might explain why hes a sadistic cancerian and caused that much pain in the world. ------------------
Sun.. Cancer Moon.. Gemini Mars.. Cancer Mercury.. Cancer Venus.. Leo Ascendant....... Virgo IP: Logged |
LadyNeptune
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Registered: Dec 2007
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posted September 18, 2008 08:03 PM
1st chart: tPluto opposite natal mars. 2nd chart: tUranus conjunct chiron - wounding, loss of a beloved object...hope and wish to have a brand new car? IP: Logged |
Kick It
Knowflake Posts: 1032
From: Leeds
Registered: May 2008
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posted September 19, 2008 10:23 PM
1st chart...only thing I can see on forst look is Mercury square Venus, which is 1st ruler square 12th ruler. Can mean a visit to hospital.
More details needed though. If it was an accident with a car, you look to 3rd house. Accident while on holiday would 9th house possibly.The second chart doesnt show much. As it involves cars, look to the third house.
12th ruler Mars is conjunct 3rd ruler Moon. 12th can be benefical in the protective/guardian influence spoken about, above.
Only thing I can see really. An accident can show as positive aspects, which may mean the positive influence shows you dont get badly hurt...like a plane survivor. Not as simple in the second natal.
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koiflower
Knowflake Posts: 1258
From: Australia
Registered: Jun 2008
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posted September 20, 2008 05:07 AM
Finally made it here  sunshine lion - firstly, I'll just say what an anxious time it must have been for you when your daughter had her accident. I hope she has recovered fully and can embrace life as a beautiful place to be - not always dangerous. Sorry to read about your car!! I know new cars start with a dream, a flutter of excitement and a lot of damn hard work!!! Thank goodness you are okay, but you could have done without it! I checked my accident transits from 30 years ago (on 29 September - gulp, its anniversary is only 9 days away). I have no tUranus square Jupiter as you and your daughter have. (That was the aspect that jumped out for me on her chart. As belgz said, it is on both of yours!! Quite amazing!!). I looked only at Uranus, Pluto, Saturn, Chiron and Mars on my transit accident day: tSat opp Sat 7°
tSat conj Ura 5°
tSat semi-sex Mars 1° tUra trine Sat 1°
tUra sext Ura 0° tPlu quin Sat 0°
tPlu semi-sex Ura 2°
tPlu trine Jup 7°
tPlu conj Mars 5°
tPlu opp Asc 4° I have no significant Chiron aspects on that day. However, it has suprised me that there is a Saturn Return of sorts for me. Thirty years ago I had that accident. A few weeks ago, a problem has re-surfaced for me with this old injury, which may cost me a lot of money to fix. Drat - can do without that!! Take care, my friend. Will catch up via email.
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Kick It
Knowflake Posts: 1032
From: Leeds
Registered: May 2008
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posted September 21, 2008 06:49 PM
My brother was playing football today and fell on his arm, hearing a crack. Bruised arm, damaged nerves and whatever else.
Cant see anything obvious, but 3rd ruler Mars, opposes Moon and is conjunct Pluto. Also a ssx to Mars itself.Oh yeah and Mars (3rd ruler) is sextile Neptune (2nd ruler) - I guess if it was a square or maybe Quincunx, it would have been much worse. In my Mums natal, 5th (child) and 4th (childs hospital) ruler are both conjunct.
He was in and out very quickly. IP: Logged |
belgz
Knowflake Posts: 719
From: sydney
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted September 21, 2008 07:14 PM
YEs i just had a look at the first chart and it does have pluto opposite mars AND.. its making an aspect to the chart ruler mercury as well as mars in first house.And its making this aspect at the same time IP: Logged |
Iqhunk
Knowflake Posts: 2269
From: Chennai
Registered: Oct 2005
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posted September 23, 2008 07:03 AM
As others have pointed out, most accidents do have a Mars-Uranus component. This was the research of Carl Tobey, the world's first mathematical astrologer. Tobey is also the pioneer of Nodes and "Moon Wobbles" as additioanl triggers for accidents.Chart 1 of Emily has South Node exactly square Natal Uranus, this triggered the accident. Chart 2 of Kris has Natal South Node square Natal Uranus, meaning accidents are part of Kris life. Transit North Node was conjunct retro Chiron on the fateful day, and Moon conjunct Uranus to trigger the accident. Watch out every 5 years for similar cycles, to break the negative loop you have to release the thought process that attracts accidents in your consiousness. IP: Logged |
sunshine_lion
Knowflake Posts: 919
From: ann arbor mi
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted September 23, 2008 07:15 AM
looks like mars pluto conjunctions oppositions and squares mean be careful.I would want more examples to see. I have one more I can try to post up later. My ex husband was in a car accident many years ago that left him paralyzed from the chest down. I never ran the chart, I will try to do it later today. What was wierd about his accident is he daydreamed it years before it happened when we were still married, right down to every detail, like wanting a tatoo to cover the scar down his back and the type of tatoo he wanted. He said he couldn't stop it from playing out in his head, I thought it significant and wrote it all down, then a few years later, after our divorce, everything he said that day..happened, and through the years the rest of what he said came to pass. Truly paranormal. IP: Logged |
sunshine_lion
Knowflake Posts: 919
From: ann arbor mi
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted September 23, 2008 07:18 AM
iq hunk. please explain further. I want that out of my life. tragic accident have taken many loved ones and it is a terrible thing and I appreciate life so much becasue I know it can be taken in an instant. I don't want accidents as part of my life anymore. It really takes you to your knees.my first boyfriend - killed in car accident my twin nephews - both killed at 18 in car acciedent two other 18 year old cousins - one killed in car acciedent , one fell in bathtub and killed by head injury trust me, I have every reasons to want to know accident chart type pointers, although you can't do anything about someone running ared light and just can't avoid accidents no matter how careful you are. IP: Logged |
sunshine_lion
Knowflake Posts: 919
From: ann arbor mi
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted September 23, 2008 09:22 AM
this is my ex's chart (my evil twin) he is actually only a little over an hour older than me, so our charts are very very similar. This is the transits the day of his accident.
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Iqhunk
Knowflake Posts: 2269
From: Chennai
Registered: Oct 2005
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posted September 23, 2008 02:27 PM
Dear friend,
You need a detailed remedy. I just noticed that your birthdate is 29, numerologically the toughest day number, one that needs the patience of Job.
We need to ensure that your name number is numerologically ok as well. It should not be 8 or 4, ideally it should be 3 to vibe with Jupiter and get added luck. Your car number digits should not be 8 nor 29.
To eradicate the accident consciousness, there has to be a belief system change and several practical exercises, it might take weeks but I can try and get the best resources for you including chakra spinning, emotional release, visualizations of safety and some advanced exercises using something called hyperspace violet tetrahedral protection to prevent accidents.
You must teach this to your kids too.
Give me an email to tsaied@rediffmail.com, lets give it a whole hearted try.
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sunshine_lion
Knowflake Posts: 919
From: ann arbor mi
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted September 23, 2008 03:17 PM
I really think you are on to something as the day of my ex's accident notice south node square uranus BOTH natally and in TRANSIT? WOW!IP: Logged |
sunshine_lion
Knowflake Posts: 919
From: ann arbor mi
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted September 23, 2008 03:17 PM
my licence plate number is I don't know how to figure numerolgy.IP: Logged |
koiflower
Knowflake Posts: 1258
From: Australia
Registered: Jun 2008
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posted September 23, 2008 04:59 PM
Firstly, it's wonderful to see iqhunk online!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I think you ara amazing, iq).Secondly, oh no - I have south node square natal uranus. (Does it have to be south node? could it be north node?) sunshine-lion - what tough lessons you've been through... quote:
It really takes you to your knees.
I understand.... love to you  IP: Logged |
sunshine_lion
Knowflake Posts: 919
From: ann arbor mi
Registered: Apr 2008
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posted September 23, 2008 06:42 PM
Koi - both are square...if south node is square so is north node. I've been thinking about you. I will email soon.IP: Logged |
koiflower
Knowflake Posts: 1258
From: Australia
Registered: Jun 2008
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posted September 23, 2008 10:18 PM
I checked transits on the day of my accident considering transit North Node:tNN square nJupiter 3°
tNN square nMoon 1°
tNN opposite nChiron 5° IP: Logged |
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