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bullhead
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posted September 26, 2008 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bullhead     Edit/Delete Message
this month i met 2 men with moon & pluto in their natal, both gem, interesting enough, i never ran into gem b4, now 2 in one month

my question is moon/pluto tends to hide their feeling i heard...... how do i crack those codes, is there any hints i can pick up?

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blue moon
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posted September 27, 2008 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Well, bullhead, looks like we are reluctant to open up and tell you. But, as someone upset me yesterday, this gives me chance to offload and maybe it will be helpful for us both.

The main thing I'd say, is don't probe too much or try and put them in a situation you they feel vulnerable or like they are obliged to open and share their vulnerabilities. At least, if someone does this to me, I can feel the shop-shutters start to slam down. They'll get short vague answers, or I'll change the subject. That's Moon/Pluto/Scorpio Rising retreating into their armoured coat.

Also, I have this combination Trine Saturn and Mercury. I don't talk about my feelings much, I keep them to myself mostly. But to someone I am close to I might open up. I'd have to feel comfortable with them though. Or be very drunk.

I particularly dislike people sitting you down acting all nice then telling you something negative in a sugared way. I prefer the give it straight approach, especially done light-hearted. That's the Gemini Sun, but also the over-powering influence of Mars on my chart. It's Trine the Sun, and Sesquiquadrate both Moon and Pluto.

I don't cope well with unfair criticism or people acting unjustly. That's Moon in Libra. If I know I've done something wrong, I will offer an apology and or promise to do better next time, as long as the point isn't driven home too much. But if it's unfair, chances are I will get very upset, and the Scorpio sting will lie in wait for the time to strike.

Just thinking of people who I can get along with emotionally. The Moon Square Saturn people I can chug along with, there's a couple in my family. They tend to be: if you can't work it out, I'm not going to tell you! This is quite like me, but that is my disassocated Moon/Saturn Trine.

My aunt is Cancer Sun with Aries Moon. She says she really identifies with her Sun sign. She is a watery, emotional person who cries mid-sentence. But she gives it straight how she feel, if something has hurt her, she won't hesitate to say. She doesn't interrogate other people about how they feel, so somehow that puts me in an environment where I can share back. But we are closely related and quite alike so I suppose that helps. We are both forthright, straight-talkers who hate b.s. Just one is water-based, the other is water-void, but not void of emotion, not at all, I just hide it.

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Got Gemini?
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posted September 27, 2008 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
How old are they if you don't mind me asking? I suspect in their 70s?

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Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚
And yes, i'm a guy!

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blue moon
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posted September 27, 2008 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
I assumed she meant Gem Sun with Moon CNJ Pluto on the chart.

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Astra
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posted September 27, 2008 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
I'm a Gemini with moon (capricorn) square pluto (scorpio), so perhaps I can help. The key with moon-pluto people is to earn their trust. Prove that you're loyal and a good friend. After you've known them for a bit, tell them something about yourself. It doesn't need to be some deep, dark secret. It just has to be something you are comfortable sharing and that it won't make you emotional. Sometimes, this can prompt them into sharing something about themselves. IF they don't, then don't push the subject.

If you notice that they're upset about something (they probably won't cry, but they will wear a very cold expression on their face), then pull them aside and speak to them privately . Tell them gently that it seems like there's something bothering them and that you want to help. If they still don't want to say anything, then just say that you understand, but will be here for them if they need someone to talk to.

In short, just be a good friend and they'll open up sooner or later.

This part is very important: make sure you never betray them! Complete loyalty is especially important to moon-pluto people. Usually, there's been someone in their past that has hurt them deeply. Keep in mind that moon-pluto people have great emotional depth, so they feel everything intensely even if they don't show it. This means a loved one's betrayal can hurt them (possibly destroy) to the extreme and these people will never forget it.

They can be vengeful (depends on rest of chart) if slighted and you do not want to be on their list of enemies. They can forgive small slights against them, but if you hurt them deeply, you will be dead to them. You no longer exist to them.

If they haven't been mistreated by a loved one in their past, then they have some sort of vulnerability that they just are terrified to share, particularly when their Sun is in Gemini (i.e. the sign that is terrified of emotions). They are well aware that their vulnerabilities can be used against them, so they only allow certain people to know about their vulnerabilities.


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bullhead
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posted September 27, 2008 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bullhead     Edit/Delete Message
hi bluemoon and astra, tks for the in depth answer, yes, he was born of yr of 72, but i made a mistake, he is actually a cancer with pluto, moon in virgo. venus and saturn conjunct in gemini.

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