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Astra
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posted September 27, 2008 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
I know I still have 6 or 7 years until my Saturn return, but I want to be prepared. I have Saturn in Scorpio in my tenth house, so I'm kind of wondering what possible issues I will have to deal with when that time comes?

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted September 27, 2008 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Astra,

Don't worry about your Saturn Return right now. Maybe you should be thinking about your current Saturn square Saturn. If your Saturn Return is 6 or 7 years away, that makes you between 21 and 23.

Saturn's transits are markers of maturation. Every 7 years Saturn is at important hard aspect to itself. At age 6, 7 and 8 Saturn is square Saturn for the first time. We lose our baby teeth and grow adult teeth. Teeth are ruled by Saturn, we begin a different stage of physical growth.

At age 13, 14, 15 Saturn opposes Saturn and we become teenagers, we go through the puberty stage of growth, we may rebel against authority (Saturn rules authority) hormones ready our bodies for the process of reproduction.

At age 21 Saturn is square to itself again, we have completed our education and we are looking for careers, lifetime spouses and beginning families.

At age 28 Saturn Returns to it's natal home base, it conjuncts itself. You are "supposedly" a fully mature adult. If you haven't settled down into a home, career or family, this is the time when (in our society) you begin to firm up those plans, dreams and goals. For some people there may be difficulties to deal with or stress, but it doesn't have to be the scary monster that it's advertised to be. If you think of it as a maturation process, between now and then think of where you'd like to be at the age of 28, what you'd like to have, what goals you want to come to fruition.

If you think in terms of creative visualization and creating your own reality, Saturn rules reality. Start a visualization, THINK BIG and consider the date of completion to be at the time of your Saturn Return. Your vision should be in solid form at that time. Saturn rules solids, structure, PLANS, completion, the end of things. What can you think of that will take 4, 5, or 6 years to build solidly and clearly? That's a great way to think of your Saturn Return, a dream coming true.

Saturn rules truth.

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koiflower
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posted September 28, 2008 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message

**Be true to yourself.
**Trust your instinct.
**Know how to say "no".
**Do what's right for YOU!!

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taurusvirgoleolady1974
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posted September 28, 2008 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurusvirgoleolady1974     Edit/Delete Message
If you worry about the future, you may miss lessons you can learn now. These lessons you learn now will prepare you for your saturn return. Relax and live your life.

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heart cakes
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posted September 28, 2008 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heart cakes     Edit/Delete Message
hey! i'm in my saturn return right now! it was exact a week or two ago.. and wow, let me tell you! it has been a huge challenge but a tremendous blessing. i feel the crystalization on a very deep level of all i ever wanted to be and do coming into a synthesis with my self concept. i feel suddenly like i am an adult and that i have a right to my full autonomy and dreams, and that i can and should and will behave according to my deepest principles and with a self respect and wisdom that has been lacking. the time approaching my saturn return was difficult and there are still a few hurdles left to jump and things to do, but basically i feel that saturn has given me permission to live according to my ideals and fully embrace who i am! i suppose it's brought all of my fears to the fore, to be faced, and though that was challenging, i now feel an almost spiritual invincibility and can sense the devine benevolence behind all that is much more powerfully. it is a challenging, but lovely time and it is definitely not to be feared, but embraced! i would say, focus on what you want to bring to and achieve in this world and look at the patterns you are stuck in in your life and begin the process of aligning your self image and beliefs with that which ultimately matters to you and put your focus there. keep happy and centred. saturn return definitely feels like a wonderful opportunity to pull it all together and bring it into the world through disciplined action and disciplined thought. it's great!

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Peri
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posted September 28, 2008 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
~by Virginia Marie Swift

The Awakening

A time comes in your life when you finally get it ... when, in the midst of
all your fears and insanity, you stop dead in your tracks and somewhere the voice inside your head cries out "ENOUGH!" Enough fighting and crying or struggling to hold on.

And like a child quieting down after a blind tantrum, your sobs begin to
subside, you shudder once or twice, you blink back your tears and begin to look at the world through new eyes. This is your awakening.

You realize it's time to stop hoping and waiting for something to change or for happiness, safety, and security to come galloping over the next horizon.

You come to terms with the fact that you are neither Prince Charming nor Cinderella. And that, in the real world, there aren't always fairy-tale endings (or beginnings, for that matter).

And that any guarantee of "happily ever after" must begin with you ... and in the process, a sense of serenity is born of acceptance.

You awaken to the fact that you are not perfect and that not everyone will always love, appreciate, or approve of who or what you are ... and that's OK. They are entitled to their own views and opinions.

And you learn the importance of loving and championing yourself ... and in the process, a sense of new-found confidence is born of self-approval.

You stop complaining and blaming other people for the things they did to you (or didn't do for you) and you learn that the only thing you can really count on is the unexpected.

You learn that people don't always say what they mean or mean what they say, and that not everyone will always be there for you, and that it's not always about you.

So you learn to stand on your own and to take care of yourself ... and in
the process, a sense of safety and security is born of self-reliance.

You stop judging and pointing fingers and you begin to accept people as they are and overlook their shortcomings and human frailties ... and in the process, a sense of peace and contentment is born of forgiveness.

You realize that much of the way you view yourself and the world around you is as a result of all the messages and opinions that have been ingrained into your psyche.

And you begin to sift through all the junk you've been fed about how you should behave, how you should look, how much you should weigh, what you should wear, what you should do for a living, how much money you should make, what you should drive, how and where you should live, who you should marry, the importance of having and raising children, and what you owe your parents, family, and friends.

You learn to open up to new worlds and different points of view. And you
begin reassessing and redefining who you are and what you really stand for.

You learn the differences between wanting and needing and you begin to discard the doctrines and values you've outgrown, or should never have bought into to begin with ... and in the process, you learn to go with your instincts.

You learn that it is truly in giving that we receive. And that there is
power and glory in creating and contributing and you stop maneuvering
through life merely as a "consumer" looking for your next fix.

You learn that principles such as honesty and integrity are not outdated
ideals of a bygone era but the mortar that holds together the foundation
upon which you must build a life.

You learn that you don't know everything, it's not your job to save the
world and that you can't teach a pig to sing.

You learn to distinguish between guilt and responsibility and the importance of setting boundaries and learning to say NO.

You learn that the only cross to bear is the one you choose to carry and
that martyrs get burned at the stake.

Then you learn about love. How to love, how much to give in love, when to stop giving and when to walk away.

You learn to look at relationships as they really are and not as you would
have them be. You stop trying to control people, situation, and outcomes.

And you learn that alone does not mean lonely.

You also stop working so hard at putting your feelings aside, smoothing
things over and ignoring your needs.

You learn that feelings of entitlement are perfectly OK, and that it is your
right to want things and to ask for the things you want ... and that
sometimes it is necessary to make demands.

You come to the realization that you deserve to be treated with love,
kindness, sensitivity, and respect ... and you won't settle for less.

And you learn that your body really is your temple. And you begin to care for it and treat it with respect.

You begin to eat a balanced diet, drink more water, and take more time to exercise.

You learn that being tired fuels doubt, fear, and uncertainty and so you
take more time to rest.

And, just as food fuels the body, laughter fuels our soul. So you take more time to laugh and to play.

You learn that, for the most part, you get in life what you believe you
deserve ... and that much of life truly is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

You learn anything worth achieving is worth working for and that wishing for something to happen is different from working towards making it happen.

More importantly, you learn that in order to achieve success you need
direction, discipline, and perseverance.

You also learn that no one can do it all alone ... and that it's OK to risk
asking for help.

You learn the only thing you must truly fear is the greatest robber baron of all: FEAR itself.

You learn to step right into and through your fears because you know that whatever happens you can handle it and to give in to fear is to give away the right to live life on your own terms.

And you learn to fight for your life and not to squander it living under a
cloud of impending doom.

You learn that life isn't always fair, you don't always get what you think
you deserve, and that bad things sometimes happen to unsuspecting, good people.

On these occasions you learn not to personalize things. You learn that God isn't punishing you or failing to answer your prayers. It's just life
happening.

And you learn to deal with evil in its most primal state ... the ego.

You learn that negative feelings such as anger, envy, and resentment must be understood and redirected or they will suffocate the life out of you and poison the universe that surrounds you.

You learn to admit when you are wrong and to build bridges instead of walls.

You learn to be thankful and to take comfort in many of the simple things we take for granted, things that millions of people upon the earth can only dream about: a full refrigerator, clean running water, a soft warm bed, a long hot shower.

Slowly you begin to take responsibility for yourself by yourself and you
make yourself a promise to never betray yourself and to never, ever settle for less than your heart's desire.

Hang a wind chime outside your window so you can listen to the wind.

Keep smiling, keep trusting, and stay open to every wonderful possibility.

Finally, with courage in your heart , take a stand, a deep breath, and begin to design as best you can the life you want to live. CHOICE BY CHOICE

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heart cakes
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posted September 28, 2008 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heart cakes     Edit/Delete Message
holy doodle!!! how appropriate! thanks peri, i'm going to print this off! how perfectly this illustrates the saturn return experience. wow.

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deuxantares
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posted September 28, 2008 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deuxantares     Edit/Delete Message
Peri, that is
Thanks for posting.

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Astra
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posted September 28, 2008 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
Geocosmic Valentine:

Thank God I've already passed through my Saturn square Saturn, but right now Saturn is squaring my Sun and Uranus. Neptune is also squaring my natal Saturn, so life does suck right now. I frequently hear about how scary Saturn returns can be, but I love the optimistic way you describe it: "a dream coming true."

Koiflower,

Thank you for your words of encouragement! I'm still working on trusting my instinct. Perhaps that will be one of the lessons I have to face later on.

Taurusvirgoleolady,

That's very true, though I don't think I can miss out on my current lessons. Saturn is killing me right now.

heart cakes,

First off, I wish you the very best with your Saturn return. It sounds as though all of the pain of a Saturn return is well worth the rewards. Even though I am 23 and living on my own, I do still feel like a kid, so hopefully my Saturn return will make me feel like an adult for once. Lol. I guess the only thing to do is just face it head on and see what happens.

Peri,

That was really beautiful! I can definitely see what lessons I still need to learn. It's obvious that although I have acquired a lot of knowledge in my 23 years, I still know absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things.

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let ther b light
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posted September 29, 2008 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for let ther b light     Edit/Delete Message
peri
that was a totally amazing read!

going thru my saturn return now(will be exact mid dec), so that really helped.

thanks!

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