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Mysticr
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posted September 30, 2008 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mysticr     Edit/Delete Message
I’m on the Libra/Scorpio cusp and don’t have a great relationship with my mother. I lovely her dearly but she can be extremely annoying and overbearing. I’m 29 and she’s still treating and talking to me like I'm a child even though I left home aged 18. A few of my Scorpion female friends and relatives also have problematic relationships with their mothers. So do you reckon this is a Scorpion trait?

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spunknini
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posted September 30, 2008 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spunknini     Edit/Delete Message
Hi there, im a Libran with Venus in Scorpio & yes my relationship with her is not good but it is hard to be general with this type of question as it all depends on your circumstances & your mothers emotional make up.

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posted September 30, 2008 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message
I've actually seen the opposite with my Scorpio friends. The Scorpio women are very close to their mothers, almost tied to the aprons strings still. The men, however, all have issues with their fathers. Either the father has abandoned them, or died or acts in a divisive manner.

I think you'll have to look more closely into the aspects in their charts.

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haybelly
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posted September 30, 2008 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for haybelly     Edit/Delete Message
I am a pisces and my mom is an aries and we don't get along. I moved 800 miles away.

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blue moon
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posted September 30, 2008 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Traditionally, your Moon is going to tell you more about the native's mother. The Moon's natural house, the 4th and its ruler might also be a good place to look.

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Astra
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posted September 30, 2008 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
Actually, my mom was very close to her mother and truly admired her. Unfortunately, my mom lost her mother during her childhood and to this day she still feels like she's not "complete." Though I'd imagine anyone who has lost a parent must feel the same way or similar.

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aries sun
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posted September 30, 2008 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aries sun     Edit/Delete Message
How does the moon tell about the child's mother?

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Snow_Dream
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posted September 30, 2008 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snow_Dream     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Mysticr

I too am on the cusp of Libra/Scorpio and I have a diffucult relationship with my mother.

What day were you born?

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posted September 30, 2008 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonPixie     Edit/Delete Message
I have scorpio Moon....

I find my mother overbearing and quite often she has put me and people in my family in a position where we have little to no power. For example, she refuses to cosign for a loan so I can go to college unless she gets to choose what college I go to and what major I take. My father would cosign for me but he has poor credit because of all the house bills my mom refuses to pay on time because she's angry with my dad. There's a lot of drama in my house, but my mom uses a lot of manipulation tactics to get what she wants.

My mom is a Cancer Sun, father Aries Sun. I have Cancer MC. She was definitely the dominant parent, and I found much more nurturing comfort from my father than her. She and I have a poor relationship and I'm moving 800 miles just to get away from her.

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posted September 30, 2008 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine_lion     Edit/Delete Message
wow moonpixie! I thinki t is a good thing sometimes to really spread those wings and fly on your own. I am kinda surprised that firey aries dad lets her call the shots. Aries men I always thought had a way of making things happen the way they want it to and knocking down each obstacle like they are swatting knats. Usually very strong personalities.

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posted September 30, 2008 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonPixie     Edit/Delete Message
he's an aries moon! i just don't get it, which is why i'm starting a new topic on their marriage right now....

he's very take charge with everyone but my mother. he's your typical dad with me... protective and always calling me... and but with my mom she gets all control. i just don't get it sometimes... but she's cancer venus and scorpio mars conj asc so it makes sense on her part.

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posted September 30, 2008 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message
I also wanted to add that an astrologer friend of mine has a theory about Scorpios. I have found that it has held true for all of the Scorpios (and Scorpio Mooners) I know, but I have no idea if it would apply in a general sense.

His theory/observation is that Scorpios, being children of Pluto, generally must contend with some sort of traumatic event in their childhood which forces them, from a very early age, to deal with death. As I mentioned in my above post, all the Scorpios I know have lost their fathers in some manner. One lost his father to a career in the Serbian police force which made his father completely cold and unavailable - sort of like a robot. Two of them lost their fathers to alcoholism and subsequently death. Another, a woman, lost her father when he abruptly left and started a new family, completely cutting her out. For these Scorpios, it all happened when they were about 5 years old. Mind you, they were all born on the same day (but not the same year). All 4 of them have mothers who seem to want to keep them tied to their apron strings in some way.

The Scorpio Mooners I know, on the other hand, all 'lost' their mothers however not in a physical manner but in an emotional one. These stories are much longer, but suffice to say that although they technically have their mothers in their lives, they were abandoned by them. By the time all of these mothers returned to make amends, these Scorpio Mooners were no longer emotionally available.

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posted September 30, 2008 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snow_Dream     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, Love that theory is something. I lost my father when he left my mom for someone else. I don't remember how old I was, but I know I was over age 5. Also, I lost my father to death when I was age 26, he was an alcoholic.

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spunknini
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posted September 30, 2008 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spunknini     Edit/Delete Message
WOW OH WOW!! I have to agree with that 100%.

although my astro make up is Libra Sun, Sag Moon, Venus Scorpio.

On a different thread I was saying how my mother was physically there but not emotionally & now that I am 35 she want to make up & play mother & daughter, but the feeling of love I had for her as a child is simply not "there" now I am not emotional about this anymore, I feel like im in a place of acceptance of myself & my feelings in regards to it all, I don't hate her but I don't love her either.

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posted September 30, 2008 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message
I have the Sun conjunct Pluto in Scorpio along with Venus and Mercury in Scorpio and the Moon in the 8th. Not to mention a ton of Pluto aspects (all of my personal planets and my chart ruler have Pluto/Scorpio aspects or sign placements).

I'm very close with my mother. We've had our fair share of power struggles, but I love her to death. My father and I have a distant relationship that was far worse from childhood until about 2 years ago. We're not close, at all, and I harbored intense resentment towards him for many years. My mom and him are still together, and he's always been around, but he's never really shown much interest in my sister and I besides discipline. Now that I'm older, he feels he can relate to me so now it's like hes making up for lost time or whatever.


But yea! I love my mama, we're very very close.


I think you're better off looking to the condition of the Moon, its ruler, the 4th house (or 10th...depending on who you felt was more "nurturing") and its ruler..as well as planets in the 4th.

I don't believe the Moon in Scorpio itself influences difficult relationships. At a basic level, it means the individual may have experienced their mother as intense, secretive, passionate, protective, observant, mysterious, powerful, controlling, stubborn, and/or controlling. All traits associated with Scorpio.

My Moon squares Pluto from the 8th house. As I stated, my relationship with my mom is terrific. There were power struggles as a child, but now that I'm older the aspect and influence has manifested as a deep and profound, almost spiritual or psychic, attachment and understanding of her.

The ruler of my 4th house, Mars is in Aquarius and exactly opposes my Moon...which could explain why the emotional attachment is so strong and active.


So as my natal 3rd house Jupiter gets the best of me, I'll close with --


Do Scorpion women have difficult relationships with their mothers?


Not in my personal experience
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lolagirl
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posted September 30, 2008 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lolagirl     Edit/Delete Message
what an interesting theory.......... my little 7yr old Scorpio child has never met her father. She is a beautiful child though, i keep praying the right person will come along to fill that slot. She has Donuts for Dads coming up and sh e is not too happy about it, that and the Daddy-daughter dance too.

Oh well!

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Black_Lily
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posted October 01, 2008 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Black_Lily     Edit/Delete Message
My Pluto in Scorpio is exactly opposite (1° orb) my Moon in Taurus and sometimes I wonder if there even is a relationship between me and my mother...

I also got the feeling that I'm the "bad guy" (or girl actually) and have the upper hand. She seems so weak sometimes...

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posted October 05, 2008 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpioCentaur     Edit/Delete Message
I am Sun/Venus/Jupiter in Scorpio... My sister is Sun in Libra, Moon and Mercury in scorpio...We both have very difficult relationships with our mother. Maybe its our mom's leo sun and Taurus moon ..but she has been very manipulating and uninvolved. My sister has always had big problems with her...since forever and over the last 5 years or so, both of us have had big difficulties with her..so much as to being estranged for over a year...

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posted October 05, 2008 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgOh     Edit/Delete Message
My ex GF of 3 years was a Scorpio, her mom was a Sagittarius, she couldnt stand her and she blamed her for every bad thing that ever took place in her life from a failed force dmarriage to current day to day life

I am virgo with Scorp moon and I love my Libra mother to death but dont get along well with my Cancer dad and at times despise him.

So Yes I suppose

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posted October 05, 2008 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for savanna20     Edit/Delete Message
My mom is a virgo and i sometimes clash with her critical nature!!! She relies on me too much and sometimes I need a lot of space!!! So that's where our problems arise. I guess our relationship is mediocre...not too good, not too bad. I get along with her, but I'm better off living without her. As a matter of fact, I'm moving out this week.

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