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alvarella777
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posted September 30, 2008 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
Hi star-lovers,

there are a lot of threads about the “nicer” points and parts in a natal chart or in a Synastry … like: the cozy and romantic “Love”-asteroids for example. But there are also “scary” asteroids around … and of course some Arabic Parts that don’t seem to promise very nice things. I dared to study my own “scary” points now … and will list some of these below.

Maybe some of you would like to add theirs … and join in to a discussion on how these “scary” points might work out in your life (or: which effects they had in the past)?

Be courageous! Join in! ;-)

This is really giving interesting clues – at least for me. I found out that most “scary”-points are found in the 3rd quadrant of my natal chart - the potential "partner"-sector. And another thing: My love life seems to be closely linked to some (karmic?) problem with “deception”/”un-faithfulness”/lies and betrayal. This is definitely a pattern that I saw now, in several areas of my chart … hm.

Curious about your insights - on your own natal “scary” points!!!
(And/or also about your impressions of mine, if you have any impressions to share on these …;-))


My 1st-house “scary”-parts:
- none –


My 2nd house “scary”-parts:

Achilles conjunct my P.o. “Plays” in Capricorn: Well I am not very reasonable with money, quite the “risk-taking”-type in this regard …really: bad with money!

P.o. “Illness/Accidents” cj. “Catastrophe” cj. “Abundantia” cj. “Lust” cj. my EX-boyfriend’s Name-asteroid, haha: This probably should warn me … about my own Lust which can lead me into a catastrophe too easily … “Abundantia” tells me that I might experience many of such “lusty” and ”catastrophic” situations … Since this is placed in my 2nd house, my self-worth might be negatively affected. I should be more cautious then.


My 3rd house “scary”-parts:

P.o. “Danger” cj. Neptune/ASC-Midpoint: Beware of misunderstandings and lies, deceptions and betrayals!

Sun/MC-Midpoint cj. Moon/Amor-Midpoint cj. Corruptness cj. Damocles: Damn – I hate this one!!! It tells me that I am way too easily swayed by “love declarations” given to me – that I might be “corrupted” by sweet words and compliments too easily … which might lead to disappointment and failure soon. (Guess there might be something about it…)

P.o. “Discord” cj. Moon/Fortuna-Midpoint cj. Saturn/Neptune-Midpoint: Huh – does that imply that I can react harshly when my idealizations/illusions are crushed ….?


My 4th house “scary”-parts:

Cupido cj. P.o. “Treachery” and also: Amor cj. P.o. “Swindle” - Does this mean I will ALWAYS be betrayed by the ones I fall in love with….??? One thing is for sure: I have always been faithful myself – but have been cheated on already, several times …


My 5th house “scary”-parts:
- none –


My 6th house “scary”-parts:

Saturn cj. Hades cj. Anteros cj. Sirene – Never a peaceful and fulfilling relationship for me? Or: a very stern and strict, cold and emotionally distant partner? Closeness and “togtherness” tied to “hard work” and only possible with lots of effort…?

My 7th house- “scary”-parts:

Sun/Saturn cj. Mars/Saturn cj. Venus/Chiron cj. draco Psyche cj. draco DSC : Again … unhappy love in store for me? Maybe … an old “karma”-thing, since the two dracos, Saturn und Chiron are involved? How could one dissolve the spell of this negative little stellium in 7th? I’d love to know!


My 8th house “scary”-parts:

Icarus cj. P.o. 2nd marriage cj. Pluto/Chiron: Gosh – so my 2nd “marriage” will be devastating for me and bring much hurt. I hope that I’ve passed this one already with my ex-boyfriend whom I split with in spring, haha! I really, really hope that had been my “2nd marriage” … and that I am through with that now. ;-)

P.o. Foolhardiness cj. my Venus/Saturn – cannot read this one. It might mean … that a certain pessimism inside of me might spoil my relationships …? Or … that my own foolish tendencies act like a road block to serious bonding with a partner?

Mars cj. P.o. Disappointment cj. Saturn/Uranus cj P.o. Abundance: Hm – many separations caused by disappointment – I actively flee such situations and leave, and often quite suddenly – so this is very true!


My 9th house “scary”-parts:

Venus cj. SN cj. P.o. “Deceit” cj. “Atlantis” cj. “Addiction” : Love and “Deceit” linked again! Like in my 4th house!!! And again: “Karma” involved through SN – what the heck is this about???


My 10th house “scary”-.parts:
- none –


My 11th house “scary”-.parts:
- none –


My 12th house “scary”-.parts:

Melancholia cj. Proserpina cj. Leviathan cj. Understanding cj. my own draco-Name-asteroid cj. draco-Jupiter: In my eyes this tells me that I don’t show my own sadness and loneliness in public, rather dwell on it alone, in secret – that I am dealing a lot with “myself” in my soul … and that – maybe – I have the capacity to finally “understand” and learn about my (hidden) sadness…

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koiflower
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posted September 30, 2008 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message

Just to confirm P.o. Alvarella - is it Part of Fortune? Is Part of Fortune dictated by birth time?

Cheers, xox

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alvarella777
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posted September 30, 2008 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
Hi! I used P.o. as a short version for "Part of ...". There's P.o. "Fortune", P.o. "Discord", P.o. "Danger" and so on and so forth. ;-)

Here's an online Arabic-Parts-Calculator:
http://www.noendpress.com/pvachier/arabicparts/index.php

I also collected more "Arabic Formulas" for other so called "parts" from other sources - and added them all to my personal "natal-chart-table" over time ... That's why I've collected quite a few of these...

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haybelly
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posted September 30, 2008 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for haybelly     Edit/Delete Message
hmmm I don't know about me, I have a chart posted on the thread " is this day good for surgery" or something like that. Is there something scary there> I don't know. Sometimes its scary that I made it this far.

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