posted October 05, 2008 07:22 AM         

I am comparing the personal planets and points:
Sun, Moon, Asc, True Node, Merc, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn

Orb = 3 degrees for all except conjunctions where 5 degrees is used due to significance of the event and ease of total calculation.

Total aspects: 12
2 45
2 90
2 60
2 120
2 150
1 conj
1 opp

p(Planet aspect same Planet)
= Total Aspects/360 x Orb = 1/10

Comparing charts of Self with Son, Daughter and Wife.

S means there was an aspect, F means no aspect.

Self-Son
============
Sun-Sun = S
Moon-Moon = F
Merc-Merc = F
Ven-Ven = S
Mars-Mars = S
TN -TN = F
Asc-Asc = S
Jup-Jup = S
Sat-Sat = S

6 success and 3 fail.

P(Success) = 1/10
P(Failure) = 9/10

Total Probability = 9!/6!3! * (1/10)^6
* (9/10)^3

or Approximately 1/17000

[Reference for Math:http://www.easycalculation.com/statistics/learn-binomial-distribution.php ]

Self-Daughter
=============
Sun-Sun = F
Moon-Moon = F
Merc-Merc = F
Ven-Ven = F
Mars-Mars = S
TN -TN = S
Asc-Asc = F
Jup-Jup = F
Sat-Sat = F

2 Success, 7 Failure

Total Probability = 9!/2!7! * (1/10)^2
*(9/10)^7

or Approximately 1/6

Self-Wife
=========
Sun-Sun = S
Moon-Moon = S
Merc-Merc = F
Ven-Ven = F
Mars-Mars = S
TN -TN = F
Asc-Asc = S
Jup-Jup = F
Sat-Sat = S

5 Success, 4 Failure

Total Probability = 9!/5!4! * (1/10)^5
*(9/10)^4

or Approximately 1/1200

The probability of these 3 charts belonging to my family occuring by Random Chance
is the product of these three probabilities
or 1/17000 x 1/6 x 1/1200
or 1/122,400,000

or One in 120 Million.

So is Astrology Random Chance or Cosmic Design ?

Note that I have not compared Sun to Moon or Venus to Mars etc else several more aspects come into play and the odds get even bigger in favor of astrology.

The above provides a mathematically irrefutable proof that Astrology in our lives is cosmic design and not random chance.

Try it with your parents chart or siblings chart or even close friends/people with whom you share an emotional bond.
As a rule of thumb, you will get between 3 to 4 successes out of 9 for every family member. With random strangers [provided year of birth is some years different else Saturn/Jupiter will always aspect], it will rarely exceed 2 successes.

posted October 05, 2008 07:35 AM         

Dear IQ

Welcome back , we all have been missing you,including the newbies who have thorougly checked out all your posts and threads hihihi

Congradulations on your daughter ( the last time you were here i only remember that your 1st son had been born)!

Well iīll be going to check out the probabilities of my family members ( but of course i will also look at the one with my J.)

posted October 05, 2008 07:57 AM         

I LOVE your statistics! They confirm my faith in the validity of astrology.

So let`s see:

me and my Mom:

NN / NN
(ASC/ ASC)
- so not so much.
(we are using conjunction, sextile, square, trine and opposition, right?)

me and my Dad:

Saturn / Saturn
NN / NN
(jupiter / Jupiter)

- again not so many hits, but what`s that about the nodal connection?

me and my first brother:

(Sun / Sun)
(Saturn / Saturn)

me and my youngest brother:

Mercury-Mercury
Mars - Mars
Jupiter - Jupiter

Mmh, maybe I have been born into the wrong family?

But you are right, if I start comparing different planets, there are more hits, especially with my youngest brother.

posted October 05, 2008 08:12 AM         

my Mom - my 1st brother:
Moon - Moon

my Mom - my youngest brother:
no hits

my Dad - my 1st brother
Mars - Mars
(Moon-Moon)
(Venus-Venus)
(ASC-ASC)

my Dad - my youngest brother
Venus - Venus
Mars - Mars
Jupiter - Jupiter

my brothers towards each other:
Mars - Mars
NN - NN
(Venus-Venus)

Me and my aunt / stepsister:
(Moon - Moon)
Venus - Venus

my mom and my aunt:
no hits

my dad and my aunt:
no hits

my 1st brother and my aunt:
no hits

my youngest brother and my aunt:
(Sun-Sun)
ASC - ASC

posted October 05, 2008 08:39 AM         

Here it goes:

i added VX and DNA also just to see:

Self with Twin-Sister (should i add my twin?)

Sun-Sun = S
Moon-Moon = S
Merc-Merc = S
Ven-Ven = S
Mars-Mars = S
TN -TN = S
Asc-Asc = S
Jup-Jup = S
Sat-Sat = S

VX-VX = F
DNA-DNA= S

10 sucess and 1 fail

SELF - Older sister (birth time unknowned)

Sun-Sun = F
Moon-Moon = S
Merc-Merc = F
Ven-Ven = F
Mars-Mars = F
TN -TN = S
Asc-Asc = NOT ABLE TO SEE
Jup-Jup = F
Sat-Sat = S

DNA-DNA= S

4 SUCESS and 5 fails ( 1 is impossible to see)

SELF - BROTHER (time birth unknown)

Sun-Sun = F
Moon-Moon = F
Merc-Merc = F
Ven-Ven = F
Mars-Mars = S
TN -TN = S
Asc-Asc = NOT ABLE
Jup-Jup = S
Sat-Sat = F

VX-VX = F
DNA-DNA= F

3 sucess and 7 fails ( 1 not able to see)

PS-although it was a low sucess his planets conects highly my ascendant.

SELF-MOTHER

Sun-Sun = S
Moon-Moon = F
Merc-Merc = S
Ven-Ven = F
Mars-Mars = S
TN -TN = F (my NN cj her DNA )
Asc-Asc = F (wide cl 7š)
Jup-Jup = S
Sat-Sat = S

VX-VX = F
DNA-DNA= S

6 sucess and 5 fails

again here there is a high conection between both asc and each otherīs planets

SELF - FATHER (time birth unknowned)

Sun-Sun = F
Moon-Moon = F
Merc-Merc = F
Ven-Ven = S
Mars-Mars = F
TN -TN = S
Asc-Asc = UNABLE TO SEE
Jup-Jup = F
Sat-Sat = S

VX-VX = F
DNA-DNA= S

4 SUCESS and 6 fails ( 1 unable to see)

And again my fatherīs planets aspect highly my ascendant.

posted October 05, 2008 08:53 AM         

I have read most of your posts in the past and would like to say a huge "Thank You" for all your wisdom.
Blessings to you and your family.

ok

Self-man
=========
Sun-Sun = F
Moon-Moon = S
Merc-Merc = F
Ven-Ven = S
Mars-Mars = S
TN -TN = F
Asc-Asc = S
Jup-Jup = S
Sat-Sat = S

Total aspects: 12
1 30
1 90
2 conj
2 opp

6/S 3/F

posted October 05, 2008 08:56 AM         

Sun-Sun = S
Moon-Moon = S
Merc-Merc = F
Ven-Ven = F
Mars-Mars = S
TN -TN = S (Exact solstic cj each other)
Asc-Asc = F
Jup-Jup = F
Sat-Sat = F

VX-VX= S
DNA-DNA= S

6 SUCESS and 5 fails

i thought about the lowest sucess conections between my brother and Me. i thought it was strange cause we got an excellent relationship so i went to see the Solstice points and found:

his S.P.Saturn is cj my Karma/Valentine 3
My S.P.Venus is cj his AntiVX 3
My S.P.Sun is opose his NN 0
My S.P.Mars is cj his Saturn
My S.P.ASC is cj his Pl 0

posted October 05, 2008 09:09 AM         

I and mom,

sun-sun - S

moon - moon - S

mer - mer - S

ven - ven - F

mars - mars - F

sat - sat - S

jup - jup - S

Tn- Tn - F

Asc - Asc - F

5 Successes, 4 failures

------------------------------

I and dad

sun-sun - S

moon - moon - F

mer - mer - S

ven - ven - F

mars - mars - S

sat - sat - F

jup - jup - S

Tn- Tn - S

Asc - Asc - F

5 successes, 4 failures

-------------------------

dad and mom

sun-sun - S

moon - moon - S

mer - mer - S

ven - ven - S

mars - mars - F

sat - sat - S

jup - jup - F

Tn- Tn - F

Asc - Asc - S

posted October 05, 2008 10:28 AM         

If you see, most of you average 4-5 successes per family member. This means the Probability is 1/1000 to 1/2000.
However, you have to multiply them to check the overall, and thats when it gets mind boggling.

Also, this test is just my personal sample. It wont work with all of you, but for those who have similar karmas as I do with my family. There are some who will have phenomenal Pluto, Venus, Nessus and Saturn contacts. Some will have Eros, Karma, Mars and Venus contacts that go beyond probability.

The idea is to find the recurring pattern and check the deepest relationships for that pattern.

posted October 05, 2008 10:40 AM         

There are several overlapping aspects of different planets though; however I think it`s nearly impossible to handle that within a statistic, because there are just too many possibilities.

In my family there seem to be an emphasis on certain spots in the signs.

EX: Libra - Aries

My Pluto 09 libra
my MC 05 Libra

my Dad`s Mars 09 Libra

my Mum`s Saturn 09 Libra

my bro`s Mars 07 Aries
my Mum`s Jupiter 06 Aries
my Dad`s TN 09 Aries
my own IC 05 Aries

Only my middle brother has nothing close to that degree; but his Mercury is on 7 Capricorn squaring that opposition.
Funny though, he`s got the Down syndrome, and of course a lot of work and attention and focus has been invested in the development of his talking and writing skills (as far as they could be developed); it has been the focus of every part of our family.

posted October 07, 2008 02:00 AM         

Bvanzy
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posted October 07, 2008 11:12 AM         

So good to see a post from you! We have all learned so much just from reading your old threads. Your brilliance continued to reverberate around here...whether you were posting or not.

posted October 13, 2008 02:53 PM         

3 - 90
1 - 120
1 - 150
1 - 45