posted October 06, 2008 06:50 PM         

I checked out the Magi Aspects
I checked both Geocentric and Heliocentric Charts. Magi Astrologers
focus a lot on heliocentric charts when it comes to financial
astrology

HELIOCENTRIC CHART

Heliocentric Yod of Earth-Mercury quincunx Mars-Saturn sextile:

Earth Quincunx Mars - very bad aspect for any business
chart....especially for business of making weapons of war

Heliocentric Mercury Quincunx Mars - this aspect creates excessive
aggressiveness in communication and is another aspect that you should
avoid when trying to negotiate any business agreements. It is also
not good to include it in a business chart because it restricts the
business from being able to "get out the word."

Earth Quincunx Saturn - This is singularly the worst aspect to have
for any endeavor. a sign of self destructiveness. business would most
likely blow up from internal causes

Heliocentric Mercury Quincunx Saturn - this is a bad aspect to have
for any business chart,especially for almost anything ruled by
Mercury;therefore,this aspect would be particularly bad for business
involving publishing,the Internet,and computer software

GEOCENTRIC CHART

Geocentric Venus square Chiron - Impossible Dream Clash - The worst
turbulent aspects for business are Saturn aspects because they are
actively negative,but this is one not far behind. It is especially
bad for business endeavors in areas that are ruled by Chiron. One
result of this aspect is an ability to obtain loyal employees;all the
good ones leve and the bad ones stay

Geocentric Saturn quincunx Chiron - Heartbreak Clash - this is one of
the worst activations to have for business matters;avoid natalizing
this aspect under any circumstances
(this aspect present in stock market crash of Sept 29, 2008)

Geocentric Sun square Jupiter - very harmful in business charts, this
aspect creates spending and overexpansion,eventually leading to
financial disaster

Interpretations from Magi Society's KEY TO SUCCESS IN LOVE AND MONEY

note: Magi Society says that Earth Aspects are like Sun
Aspects,therefore I gave the Sun's interpretations for the Earth
Aspects

posted October 06, 2008 07:38 PM         

Would you mind sending it to me, also? I've been obsessed with this "Economic Turmoil" as it's being called and I really think some horrendous issues are going to happen this week with the economy. I'm in New York and the atmosphere here is EXTREMELY ON EDGE.

There was another story on Yahoo today talking about the benefits the executives of these companies are seeking. Actually they just updated the story:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081006/ap_on_go_co/meltdown_lehman;_ylt=Agm7b0jFIgQBUr5quZGChLms0NUE

I'd love to see the Magi's take on this. I'm knee deep in this thing. Thanks in advance if you can.

Geocosmic Valentine

posted October 07, 2008 02:49 AM         

The world's financial system is a house of cards and the fiat currency "bubble" is ready to burst.

The simplest astrological explanation is Pluto re-entering Capricorn but the reality can be found out by progressing the chart of the "Bretton Woods" Agreement.

posted October 07, 2008 04:12 AM         

Geo - sure l will email you the info - l just need to find my PC as l just moved house and l can't find it anywhere!!
Can you give me your email please, or did you already and i'm being blonde today?

posted October 07, 2008 02:59 PM         

You can reach me by my email or MySpace page. Addresses are below:

posted October 08, 2008 08:18 AM         

I wonder if the charts of current Dow Jones Industrial Average, the NASDAQ, NYSE, USA, other regions of the world all exhibit the same/similar bad aspects Astrodienst doesn't create charts that date too long so I have no clue..

http://www.stariq.com/marketweek.htm

Dear Lara,
do you mind sending the Magi info to me as well? thank you so much <3

posted October 08, 2008 08:23 AM         

quote:

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Longer-Term Thoughts

Let me share a quote from the “Forecasts for 1996” book that was written 13 years ago:

But based upon these assumptions… there is not likely to be a major world war, nor nuclear holocaust, nor world wide economic collapse, nor major collapse of a political system that strongly influences the course of Humankind for the next twelve years minimum… Why 2008-2011? That is because there are no periods of time in which multiple aspects between the major long-term planets form in cardinal signs until then. And what happens then? Pluto ingresses into Capricorn, Uranus into Aries, Saturn into Libra. In addition, the Moon’s North Node will also move back into Capricorn. The last time these three planets (and Node) were all in Cardinal signs was 1967-72 and 1929-1931.

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posted October 08, 2008 02:26 PM         

Thank you for that information.

Glaucus, I wonder if you would do me a favor. Would you take a look at a business chart for me from the Magi perspective and/or your own perspective. I wonder what your opinion of it is? I understand if you can't do it, but if you can I would appreciate it and I'd love your opinion on it.

The birth data is:

MR Decorating
December 11, 2007
10:04 AM
Garden City, NY

Thanks for your consideration,

Geocosmic Valentine

posted October 08, 2008 02:31 PM         

as soon as my computer is found l will get on the case!

Problem is, i can't find it so l might have to go back to my old house and see if l left it there

Yes, Glaucus, that Magi stuff is very interesting... l can't wait to get my passwords back so l can look on the site for you!!!

posted October 08, 2008 02:49 PM         

Glaucus, I wonder if you would do me a favor. Would you take a look at a business chart for me from the Magi perspective and/or your own perspective. I wonder what your opinion of it is? I understand if you can't do it, but if you can I would appreciate it and I'd love your opinion on it.

The birth data is:

MR Decorating
December 11, 2007
10:04 AM
Garden City, NY"

I would be glad to

but I am no Magi Astrologer...I mean..I don't regularly use Magi Astrology. Lara knows a lot more about Magi Astrology than I do. I only know as much from the Magi Society's 3 books. They have made changes like adding asteroids. I know nothing about asteroids from the Magi Astrological perspective. I don't know a lot about heliocentric charts too.

posted October 08, 2008 03:14 PM         

but in 67-72 pluto was in virgo, and though saturn was in aries it crossed into taurus in late 68/early 69, so that time was very different in flavour. it was a sat/uranus opposition, but pluto was out of the picture really....

posted October 08, 2008 04:48 PM         

It doesn't have to be just Magi. I just happen to really admire all of your astrological skills. You're always so thorough and right on target. I just wanted to get an opinion from an astrologer that I think is really good.

You don't have to go really deep, I know it takes a lot of time to go deep. Just a general glance over is fine. Whenever you have a moment, there's no rush at all.

Geocosmic Valentine

posted October 08, 2008 07:12 PM         

"but I am no Magi Astrologer...I mean..I don't regularly use Magi Astrology. Lara knows a lot more about Magi Astrology than I do. I only know as much from the Magi Society's 3 books. They have made changes like adding asteroids. I know nothing about asteroids from the Magi Astrological perspective. I don't know a lot about heliocentric charts too."

posted October 13, 2008 08:50 PM         

Moon trine Saturn - the book doesn't have any interpretations for this aspect.....I believe that Moon-Saturn aspects are like Sun-Saturn aspects,but emotionally charged
Both the enhancement and the Turbulent aspects are among the worst aspect times for anything to do with love and money; fortunately, they do not last long, so it is easy to bide your time and bypass such aspects. Both aspects are a sign of self-destructiveness unique to the Saturn-Sun aspect. Marriages and businesses with any Sun-Saturn aspect are most likely to blow up from internal causes. This is singularly the worst aspect to have for any endeavor. Success can come, but at a great price and it's rarely enduring. The most likely outcome is that Saturn somehow makes a relationship or business highly susceptible to disruptions and crises that are rooted primarily from within.

Sun parallel Mercury - this aspect has helpful characteristics in a job or business related to Mercury; it is a great aspect under which to begin work as a writer,newscaster,or announcer. It's also good for releasing a book or recording; and starting a business in singing,book publishing, and developing and selling computer software

Mercury parallel Jupiter - helpful,especially for achieving success in business endeavors involving anything ruled by Mercury, such as publishing,software,writing,communications,and the Internet.

Venus trine Mars - a helpful aspect for making money in Mars endeavors such as sports,munitions,and weapons; construction and labor-intensive work; dance,aerobics,and physical therapy; and farming

Venus contraparallel Chiron - a very beneficial enhancement to have in any business chart, it is a Super Aspect. It is especially good for corporations that have anything to do with entertainment, and it is one of the three best aspects to have in the formation of an entertainment company(the others being Jupiter-Chiron and Jupiter-Uranus)

Jupiter conjunct Pluto - one of the best aspects to include in any Business Chart, especially when starting a new job,business,or corporation

Moon oppose Mars
Moon contraparallel Mars - neither the enhancement nor the turbulent version of this aspect is helpful in love or money. The enhancement is not harmful, but the turbulent aspect can be problematic, and it is better not to have either during any important activities, such as a wedding or an employment date. The Moon-Mars aspect is symbolic of hyper-emotionalism

Heliocentric Aspects
Magi Society says Heliocentric Aspects are like Sun aspects......the Earth like the Sun represents the business itself

Earth square Uranus - very bad aspect under which to begin anything regarding business, as it creates incessant upheavals. Be certain to avoid this aspect.

Earth trine Neptune
Earth parallel Neptune
(bilevel)
- is one of the most helpful aspects under which to start a job. Neptune will help the job be peaceful and long-lasting. This makes this aspect good for starting bank and brokerage accounts. But this aspect is not really helpful for other business charts, such as an incorporation date. Neptune is the most impressionable and least competitive planet, and a corporation born under a Sun-Neptune enhancement will be less willing and less able to compete in the dog-eat-dog world of big business---or even small business.

Earth contraparallel Jupiter - corporations born under this aspect are very fair and generous employers, with the workplace being a great place to be because it is a sea of tranquility. Employees will be most loyal to business with this aspect, but try to add a Venus- and - Pluto - based Super Aspect as well.

Jupiter contraparallel Neptune - this Super Aspect is one of the best aspects for maximizing money-making potential, especially in areas ruled by Neptune. A rare aspect, take advantage of it when it occurs, even if it is just to open a bank or brokerage account

(Earth-Jupiter-Neptune planetary synchronization in the heliocentric latitudes....very strong business for maximizing money-making potential as well as peaceful and longlasting)

Venus trine Jupiter - very helpful in business related to beauty, such as the fashion and makeup industries. It is a good day for starting anything where integrity and loyalty are of utmost importance, such as a law firm or bank

Venus conjunct Saturn - a good aspect to have when incorporating a company, since the company will be ambitious and move mountains to meet its objectives. Microsoft Corporation has this aspect.

Venus trine Pluto - as a Super Aspect, this is one of the best aspects for making money; do whatever you can to natalize this Super Aspect in business charts,including contracts. This aspect is also very helpful for starting dates of jobs,bank,and brokerage accounts,and investments

Jupiter trine Saturn - if Saturn is not APPLYING toward Jupiter, this is a helpful aspect. If Saturn is applying toward Jupiter, this aspect is a problem and you should make certain to avoid it in any electional chart.

Saturn trine Pluto - it's wide but it's within orb of 4 degrees to complete an aspect configuration - both the enhancement and the turbulent versions of this aspect are nearly insurmountable blocks to the ability to be profitable, and must be avoided in any Business Chart. These aspects are also horrible to have on days when beginning a new job because under Saturn-Pluto, promotions and salary increases are very hard to attain.

(Venus-Saturn trine Jupiter-Pluto conjuncted trine - good business configuration for ambition andmaking money)

Pluto contraparallel Chiron - a Super Aspect, endows extraordinary profit-making power. This is a great enhancement to have ainy election chart. We call this enhancement the STAR WARS enhancement because the movie was released under such an enhancement

posted October 13, 2008 10:00 PM         

Thank you so very much. I really appreciate this. I elected this chart for a friend whose business is now BOOMING!! I've been so proud of it. I'm kind of glad I did it before I fully understood the Magi aspects or I might not have chosen the date, but I purposely chose the date and time so that the Jupiter-Pluto conjunction would be exact and I wanted that conjunction to be in the 11th House of "Income Received from the Career 10th House". Also, Jupiter is a final dispositor in the 11th House. I also consider that the conjunction is conjunct the Galactic Center and conjunct the Aries Point.

I also like that the Sun is in Sagittarius there also. I checked the declinations later and realized that Sun-Jupiter-Pluto are all parallel. It's an awesome measurement, just like the chart of the United States of America. It also has a similar parallel.

It's interesting to me that the Magi consider the trine of Moon-Saturn to be a bad aspect. I thought it would somehow enhance business, especially since Moon is located in Capricorn. I wish it wasn't in the 12th House, but I had to get that Jupiter-Pluto conjunction into the 11th House.

I also find it surprising that the Magi don't consider the Pluto-Saturn trine to be a power aspect, although I'm slowly learning about the Pluto-Saturn relationship when it comes to the stock market. I guess if it had to be there, I'm glad it was a trine instead of the opposition or square.

I hope I'm right about the Jupiter-Saturn trine. Saturn was no longer applying to Jupiter, it was 2 degrees past a trine in the Heliocentric chart, so I hope that it still counts as an enhancement aspect instead of, I guess they call it, a Nuclear Aspect.

The chart seems to be working just fine for my friend, business is slowing down a little for her as transiting Saturn is squaring the Sun in the chart, but business has been so good, she's happy to have a little break.

I want to thank you again, Glaucus. You now have me looking at the chart in a different way, I'm especially loving that Pluto contraparallel Chiron "Super Aspect" or the STAR WARS enhancement. We'll use the light saber the aspect provides to fight off the nuclear aspects and the other bad aspects.

Thanks again, Glaucus.

Geocosmic Valentine