posted October 06, 2008 09:31 PM         

I hear a lot of fuss in regards to synastry aspects to the descendant and the IC, but I am wondering where to find this exact point in a synastry chart. I mean, I know where they are located (7th and 4th house), but when I pull up a chart on the extended charts section in Astro.com, there's no mention of them there, not in a way I can see.

Also, no mention of an anti-vertix or South Node...is there another place to get this info, or is this some kind of mathematical thing I have to figure out? I hope not, because I really suck at math LOL.

Anyway, thanks in advance...any replies would be great

posted October 06, 2008 09:44 PM         

No math, per se, required here -- just training your eyeballs

The IC, or Imum Coeli, is the cusp degree of the 4th house, and the Descendent, or DC or DSC is the cusp degree of the 7th house. The IC is exactly opposite the MC, or Medium Coeli, the cusp of the 10th house, just as the Descendent is exactly opposite the Ascendant, the cusp of the 1st house.

posted October 07, 2008 02:25 AM         

Vertex/Anti-Vertex is also an axis. To see it on your chart, you will need to go into Extended Chart selection and pick it out under Additional Objects on the bottom left-handside.

If you run up a synastry chart under Extended Chart Selection, it should show up for both charts. Vertex will be written is a Verte.

posted October 07, 2008 03:35 AM         

OK. So, basically, I'm wondering if the DC 7th house cusp line or the IC/4th shows up at all in the chart, in the way the ascendant lines and midheaven does. Because while I can see I've dumped a bunch of my own planets into his 4th house, which is on the cusp of Libra, and can see how they're aspecting each other from there, I cannot for the life of me see the IC line per se.
I can draw an imaginary line, but how do I know it's being aspected at all??
Does that question make sense at all, lol?

Maybe I should just post the darn chart, but I don't quite know how to do that either.

I know, I'm hopeless

posted October 07, 2008 06:35 AM         

More detailed instructions here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/009076.html

posted October 07, 2008 08:08 AM         

Orbs should be about half as narrow as for natal aspects.

Can you spot Vertex and the North Nodes? Anti-Vertex and South Node aren't shown, neither are aspects.

posted October 07, 2008 08:58 AM         

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So, basically, I'm wondering if the DC 7th house cusp line or the IC/4th shows up at all in the chart, in the way the ascendant lines and midheaven does.

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The AC/DC line - is one line. It starts at AC and ends at DC - It runs horizontaly across the chart.

The IC/MC line is also *one* line. It starts at IC and ends at MC and runs vertically accross the chart.

On astro.com, as you can see in the chart BlueMoon posted.. the initials AC, DC, IC & MC are typed next to the appropriate line.

The South Node is not present. The South Node is always the exact opposite of the North Node. If your North Node is at 3 Aries, the South Node would be at 3 Libra. The North Node has this symbol:

http://www.cafeastrology.com/northnodesouthnode.html

posted October 07, 2008 09:03 AM         

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what does IC stand for?

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Imum Coeli (IC - directly opposite the Midheaven)

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The Imum Coeli or Nadir

The Imum Coeli or Nadir is opposite the Medium Coeli. This is the lowest point on the horoscope and the point furthermost north in the zodiac. The Imum Coeli is the cusp of the fourth house. This is the area of our deepest concern for security and shelter. This is concerned with home, traditions, stability, and nurturing. This is where you seek comfort and protection. Your activities here will be private and concealed. When many planets are near the Imum Coeli , accomplishments may not get the notoriety they deserve.

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posted October 07, 2008 09:11 AM         

The SOUTH NODE ~> check out the red outer chart on the example, where the North NOde is next to Mars. If you had the degrees you would know that red's North Node is at 17 degrees of Aqua. From that, you will know that the South Node is at 17 degrees of Leo. It's not shown, but you know it is there.

Checking out the chart you will see blue's Mars , easy to spot it is opposite red's Mars drawn with a line for an Opposition.

Mars in blue is at 16 degrees of Leo.
So you know you have a conjunction of 1 degree orb between red's South Node and blue's Mars.

THE ANTI-VERTEX ~ the Vertex is written in on the chart. Red's Vertex is at 22 degrees Gemini, there it is at the top of the chart near blue's midheaven. The midheaven is written in as MC with a dark black line to show it's there.

180 degrees away is another black line. It's marked IC. Next to it, you can see blue's Venus. If you had the degrees, you would now that is at 24 degrees of Sag. So it is there, 2 degrees from his wife's anti-vertex. We know that, because we know Vertex is at the top of the chart at 22 degrees of Gemini, so the anti-vertex is at 22 degrees of Sag at the bottom.

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Aspects to the MC/IC and ASC/DESC are not shown either.

Check out the Moon on the blue chart. It's in Taurus in the 8th house on his natal chart. On this synastry chart it does not make any aspects.

posted October 07, 2008 09:20 AM         

John Steinbeck

(sorry, one of my favourite quotes).

posted October 07, 2008 03:03 PM         

Thing is, I've read everything and the synastry seems...meh. I mean, it seems I'm definitely more effected than he is, with that moon and sun right in my first house, and his crazy Uranus rocking out my 7th. But I WAS curious about the other stuff. His vertex is completely unaspected by me, I think from what I checked.

Don't think his descenent is even involved really, but I'm curious about his South Node and IC...so if anyone sees anything, please let me know

Thanks again, guys!!!